Mayday Area CPZ Extension 2nd Consultation - Occupiers - Counting of Responses

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Farook Jahman

Dear Croydon Borough Council,

The council's second consultation into its proposals for 8am - midnight CPZ parking controls and charges in the Mayday area of the north of NORTH CPZ is due to end tomorrow.

This informal consultation follows mass objections, protests and complaints over the council's decision at TMCC on 9-2-11 to go ahead in this one area, and the council's Scrutiny Committee on 1-3-11 requesting a fresh consultation.

The TMCC decision on 1-2-11 was made despite receiving more than 40 objections from this area and having no evidence of support from it for these extreme and oppressive new controls.

Q1 - Were consultation letters delivered to all addresses within the relevant area, including both sides of London Road?

Q2 - How many letters were delivered?


The council's consultation letter has a form which says only responses from occupiers within the area will be counted.

Q3a - Why should the council totally ignore the views of anyone who does not occupy property in the area?

Q3b - Surely instead the council should count and record any such views, and then discuss them separately within its TMCC report?


Q4a - What is the council's definition of an occupier?

An occupier must be more than just someone who visits or works at an address, but they do not have to live there.

Q4b - Presumably it includes businesses and organisations with premises within the Mayday area, as well as those living there?


Q5a - What happens if premises, residential or business or community, are occupied by more than one person?

The council has stated to some enquirers that they would only accept one response per household.

Q5b - How can this be right, and give a true picture of the views of occupiers in the area?

Bear in mind here that the council is under a legal obligation for "ensuring that adequate publicity about the order is given to persons likely to be affected by its provisions" and "the delivery of notices or letters to premises, or premises occupied by persons, appearing to the authority to be likely to be affected by any provision in the order"?

Note the law refers to persons, not merely one view per address.

Q6a - What happens if more than one response is received?
Q6b - Does the first one count, or the last one?
Q6c - Suppose one is in favour and the other is against?

The binding principle of democracy in this country has long been "one man, one vote".

This was reaffirmed as a key element of the recent NO to AV campaign, which was endorsed 2 to 1 in the Referendum.

The YES to AV campaign also supported this principle.

The property qualification to vote was abolished long ago.


Q7 - In respect of this latest Mayday consultation, will the council please at least record any cases where more than one vote was received from an address, and show the overall totals both ways, ie per address and per respondent in the TMCC report?

If not, please explain why.


Q8 - In the cases of the first Mayday formal consultation which ended in February, and also in the recent consultations for extensions for CPZ's in Norbury and in Thornton Heath, how many addresses submitted more than one response?

Please list each road where this occurred, and the number of addresses and the number of multiple responses from each.

Yours faithfully,

Farook Jahman

Information, Croydon Borough Council

Dear Mr Jahman

Thank you for your email dated 30 May 2011, in which you have requested information regarding among other matters details in relation to Mayday area CRZ consultation

We are considering your request under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000, and hope to respond within the statutory 20 working days.

In some circumstances a fee may be payable and if that is the case, either myself or a colleague will let you know the likely charges before proceeding.

If you have any queries about this email, please contact me. Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future communications.

Yours sincerely

Chris Tanriverdi
Information coordinator
Resources and customer services
Customer strategy and developement
5th floor north east quadrant
Taberner House
Park Lane, Croydon CR9 3JS
Tel : 020 8726 6000 Ext: 63833
Fax: 020 8407 1376
Faxination:020 8633 9664
Email: [email address]

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Information, Croydon Borough Council

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Dear Mr Jahman,

Please find enclosed the council's response to your Freedom of Information request.

Yours sincerely,

Darren Shuster

Senior Complaints Resolution Officer (Statutory)
Complaint Resolution Team
Customer Strategy and Development

Resources and Customer Services Department
Tel: 020 8726 6000 Ext 65685

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Dear Information,

Thank you for your reply, in which instead of providing the information requested, you offer a meeting to discuss the issues involved.

"Bearing in mind the number of queries and obvious concern that you have on the proposals in the Croydon University Hospital Area we would like to invite you to meet with council officers so that we can discuss these concerns. This would save the potential problem of attempting to respond to the points only to find that more explanation is required with a corresponding delay."

What I want is the council to answer the questions posed.

If the answers are straightforward, there is no reason for further explanation or delay.

The questions are simple and in most cases asking for factual answers.

The exceptions, Qu3 (a+b) and 5b, are asking for an explanation of council policy.

The purpose of making this FOI request in an open and public way via the WDTK website, is so that everyone can see what is asked and how the council responds.

A 1-1 meeting with the council would defeat that objective.

Accordingly, I repeat my FOI request, and ask that you provide me with the information I asked for.

Yours sincerely,

Farook Jahman

Dear Croydon Borough Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Croydon Borough Council's handling of my FOI request 'Mayday Area CPZ Extension 2nd Consultation - Occupiers - Counting of Responses'.

31-5-11: FOI submitted
31-5-11: LBC acknowledged
28-6-11: LBC offer meeting instead of reply
30-6-11: Reaffirm just want answers to questions posed.

No further response from LBC.

I can confirm that it is clear and specific answers to the questions I posed that I want.

There is no reason for further enquiries once these answers are provided.

I don't understand why the council has ignored my follow up reply.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address:

Yours faithfully,

Farook Jahman

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