Loan Charge - Possible Concessions Email

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Anne Charlesworth

Dear HM Treasury,

Please provide all emails held by HMT which contain the term
'Loan Charge - possible concessions'
during the month of March 2019.

Yours faithfully,

Anne Charlesworth

FOI Requests, HM Treasury

Our ref: FOI2022/18243

Dear Anne Charlesworth,

Thank you for your request for information which we are considering under
the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

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Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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1 Atodiad

Dear Anne Charlesworth

Please find attached a response to your recent FOI request.

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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Dear FOI Requests,

Thank you for your response to FOI2022/18243.

It may be that I have been too specific and that searching for the exact phrase was too limiting. I would like to slightly widen then search if I may.

Please search for emails that contain the term
'Loan charge'
and the word 'concession' (this may also include the plural 'concessions')
This should be for the emails during the month of March 2019

Please confirm that the search is of the subject , body and any attachments of the email archive.

Yours sincerely,

Anne Charlesworth

FOI Requests, HM Treasury

Our ref: FOI2022/23395

Dear Anne Charlesworth,

Thank you for your request for information which we are considering under
the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

This is to confirm receipt of your request and to let you know that it is
receiving attention. If you have any enquiries regarding your request do
not hesitate to contact us.

Please note: HM Treasury has a dedicated email address for the public to
make Freedom of Information requests: [email address]

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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Dear Anne Charlesworth

Please find attached a response to your recent FOI request.

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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Anne Charlesworth

Dear FOI Requests,

Your response to my request is a little odd

I first asked for emails that contained
'Loan Charge - possible concessions' for March 2019

Your answer - zero

I then widened the scope slightly for the same one month period
'Loan charge'
and the word 'concession' (this may also include the plural 'concessions')
This resulted in an answer invoking section 14 claiming that it would require a disproportionate level of staff effort. You have already demonstrated that extraction of the number of emails is within the limits of section 12. Having read the ICO guidelines on the subject of section 14 I think that you may be applying it inappropriately.

However, I am wondering whether you are using the AND/OR search logic incorrectly. I will adjust my request to determine this

Please query your email archive for the period of March 2019
1) How many emails in total for March 2019?
2) How many emails contained the phrase 'Loan Charge'
3) How many emails contained the word concession ?
4) How many emails contained the word concessions ?
5) How many emails contained the phrase 'Loan Charge' AND the word concession?
6) How many emails contained the phrase 'Loan Charge' OR the word concession?
7) How many emails contained the phrase 'Loan Charge' AND the word concessions?
8) How many emails contained the phrase 'Loan Charge' OR the word concessions?

Yours sincerely,

Anne Charlesworth

FOI Requests, HM Treasury

Our ref: FOI2023/00240

Dear Anne Charlesworth,

Thank you for your request for information which we are considering under
the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

This is to confirm receipt of your request and to let you know that it is
receiving attention. If you have any enquiries regarding your request do
not hesitate to contact us.

Please note: HM Treasury has a dedicated email address for the public to
make Freedom of Information requests: [email address]

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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Dear Anne Charlesworth

Please find attached a response to your recent FOI request.

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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Dear FOI Requests,

Thank you for the response using exemption 12.
However I think you must have misread my request.

I asked for the NUMBER of emails with these terms and combinations of the terms specified. You have ably demonstrated that the boolean search is simple to perform as you have stated that

'In line with your request, we conducted a Boolean search of 'Loan charge' and 'concession',
along with 'Loan charge' and 'concessions’, contained in emails from March 2019. This
resulted in a significant number of returns.'

I have not asked for anything other than the number of emails. Let me repeat, NOT the contents of them.

At the very least you could have provided this number as you had already run the query

Please can you respond providing the information requested in FOI2023/00240 which will certainly not exceed the cost of compliance.

Thank you

Yours sincerely,

Anne Charlesworth

FOI Requests, HM Treasury

Our ref: FOI2023/03001

Dear Anne Charlesworth,

Thank you for your request for information which we are considering under
the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

This is to confirm receipt of your request and to let you know that it is
receiving attention. If you have any enquiries regarding your request do
not hesitate to contact us.

Please note: HM Treasury has a dedicated email address for the public to
make Freedom of Information requests: [email address]

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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Dear FOI Requests,

Thank you for the confirmation.

I'd like to point out that HMRC have released some emails containing the same subject that I have been asking HMT for. Perhaps of most interest is that some of the emails that they released were from/to HMT personnel.

It confirms that the response you provided to me on 24/10/2022 for FOI2022/18243 was incorrect. You might like to revisit that response and correct it.

Of course you should continue to provide the information solicited in FOI2023/00240.

Yours sincerely,

Anne Charlesworth

FOI Requests, HM Treasury

1 Atodiad

Dear Anne Charlesworth

Please find attached a response to your recent FOI request.

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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1 Atodiad

Dear Anne Charlesworth

Please find attached a response to your recent FOI request.

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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Anne Charlesworth

Dear FOI Requests,

In your response on 3rd March you stated that you were awaiting clarification item 1.
I was indeed asking for the total number of emails , I would have thought it would have been as simple as 'select count (*) ' or an equivalent from your email database. If this would cause significant effort then please provide the answer to the other questions.

Thank you for your follow up response identifying that you had misled me to believe that there were no emails with the subject requested. It appears that there is at least one that has been provided by HMRC. In that respect you can understand why I am now asking for a count of emails with the phrase in various combinations.

Please can you explain what you mean in the following sentence as it appears contradictory

"From this additional search, we can confirm that although HM Treasury holds no emails
containing the phrase ‘loan charge – possible concessions’, we do hold one item
containing the phrase."

Yours sincerely,

Anne Charlesworth

FOI Requests, HM Treasury

Our ref: FOI2023/05619

Dear Anne Charlesworth,

Thank you for your request for information which we are considering under
the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

This is to confirm receipt of your request and to let you know that it is
receiving attention. If you have any enquiries regarding your request do
not hesitate to contact us.

Please note: HM Treasury has a dedicated email address for the public to
make Freedom of Information requests: [email address]

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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FOI Requests, HM Treasury

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Dear Anne Charlesworth

Please find attached a response to your recent FOI request.

Yours sincerely

Information Rights Unit | Correspondence and Information Rights | HM
Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A 2HQ [1]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury

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