Learning Disability Statistics

Victoria Martin made this Rhyddid Gwybodaeth request to Birmingham City Council

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Dear Birmingham City Council,

Please could you provide the following information

1) The number of new “in-county” residential care Learning Disability care placements you have fully or partly funded in 2013
2) The number of new “out of county” care Learning Disability care placements you have fully or partly funded in 2013.
3) The average weekly fee for the new “in-county” placements at 1 above (please provide the range of fees (highest and lowest), and the median and mean)
4) The average weekly fee for the new “ out of-county” placements at 2 above (please provide range of fees (highest and lowest), and the median and mean)
5) The number of new “in-county” supported living Learning Disability care placements that cost over £1000 per week that you have fully or partly funded in 2013.
6) The number of new “out of county” supported living Learning Disability care placements that cost over £1000 per week you have in 2013.
7) The average weekly fee for the new “in-county” placements at 5 above (please provide the range of fees (highest and lowest), and the median and mean)
8) The average weekly fee for the new “ out of-county” placements at 6 above (please provide range of fees (highest and lowest), and the median and mean)
9) A list of care providers you have used for new placements for learning disability residential care in 2013 and the number of placements they have received in 2013
10) A list of care providers you have used for new placements for learning disability supported living care in 2013 and the number of placements they have received in 2013

Yours faithfully,

Victoria Martin

Dear Birmingham City Council,

My request relates to adults only

Yours faithfully,

Victoria Martin

Kulwant Ghaleigh, Birmingham City Council

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Dear Ms Martin

Please find attached a letter of acknowledge for your request FOI9994.

 

 

 

Kind regards

 

Kulwant Ghaleigh

Birmingham Public Health

PO Box 16732

Aston 

Birmingham

B2 2GF

Phone: 0121 303 4720 

Email: [1][email address]

 

Public Health has now transferred over to Birmingham City Council and this
is my new email address.  Should you wish to contact us by telephone the
general Public Health telephone number is 0121 303 4454.

 

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

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Kulwant Ghaleigh, Birmingham City Council

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Dear Victoria Martin

Please find attached a letter regarding your request FOI 9994 for
clarification.

 

 

Kind regards

 

Kulwant Ghaleigh

Birmingham Public Health

PO Box 16732

Aston 

Birmingham

B2 2GF

Phone: 0121 303 4720 

Email: [1][email address]

 

Public Health has now transferred over to Birmingham City Council and this
is my new email address.  Should you wish to contact us by telephone the
general Public Health telephone number is 0121 303 4454.

 

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

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Dear Kulwant Ghaleigh,

“out of county” means outside the consituency boundaries of Birmingham ie outside the boundaries of the following combined, Edgbaston, Erdington ,Hall Green, Hodge Hill, Ladywood, Northfield, Perry Barr, Selly Oak, Sutton Coldfield, Yardley

Yours sincerely,

Victoria Martin

Dear Kulwant Ghaleigh,

You are now late with your response. The freedom of information act provides that response should be prompt and you should reply by 20 Feb. Please send full response.

Yours sincerely,

Victoria Martin

Paul Campbell, Birmingham City Council

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Dear Victoria Martin,

Please see the attached letter that was previously sent on 17 February 2014.

Section 1(3) of the Freedom of Information Act states that a Public Authority is not obliged to comply with a request if:

1. It reasonably requires further information before it can identify the information requested, and;
2. It has asked the applicant for this information.

In this case, the authority does not need to comply until or unless it has received a response which sufficiently clarifies the request.

We have requested that you clarify the term "out of county" in your request to enable us to search for the information you have requested as this does not specify an exact geographical distinction that correlates to Birmingham City Council's boundary. We would not want to place an assumption on your interpretation. Once we have received such clarification we would then have 20 business days from that date to respond to your request.

If you require any assistance in rephrasing your request in a manner that would enable Birmingham City Council to search for this information please do not hesitate to contact me to discuss.

Kind regards,
Paul Campbell
Prediction Analyst | Public Health Division
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Post: Birmingham City Council, PO Box 16468 , 10 Woodcock Street,  Zone 5, 1st Floor, Birmingham, B2 2DS
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Tel: 0121 303 9462 Email: [email address]
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Note Postcode for Driving Directions: B7 4BG

Any information about service users contained within this e-mail or attachment is confidential. Please use such data only for the purpose detailed and ensure that if you store this data it is encrypted to prevent unauthorised access. The email is intended only for the named recipient(s) to whom it is addressed

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Dear Paul Campbell,

Your response is inadequate. The original request was made on 17 Jan 2014. You then waited 24 days until 17 Feb to even ask for any information. Why did you wait so long for this simple information?

The information was given on the same day 17 Feb which is repeated below for ease of reference

“out of county” means outside the consituency boundaries of Birmingham ie outside the boundaries of the following combined,Edgbaston, Erdington ,Hall Green, Hodge Hill, Ladywood, Northfield,
Perry Barr, Selly Oak, Sutton Coldfield, Yardley

The Freedom of Information Act requires responses to be prompt and at a maximum 20 days. It is not for authorities to delay matters by waiting 24 days before asking for a simple clarification and then hoping to reset the clock. The clarification was provided on the same do you requested it. Now, by when when will you provide a full response? - The law expects you not to delay.

Yours sincerely,

Victoria Martin

Paul Campbell, Birmingham City Council

Dear Victoria Martin,

The request was received by our office on 23 January 2014. It was only after discussion with colleagues we became aware of the need for clarification.

I was unaware of your previous response providing clarification as this does not appear to have been received by our offices. Thank you for the clarification provided, in line with the Freedom of Information Act we will respond as promptly as we are able and in any case within 20 working days of the date of this e-mail.

Kind regards,
Paul Campbell
Prediction Analyst | Public Health Division
...........................................................................................................................................................................
Post: Birmingham City Council, PO Box 16468 , 10 Woodcock Street,  Zone 5, 1st Floor, Birmingham, B2 2DS
...........................................................................................................................................................................
Tel: 0121 303 9462 Email: [email address]
...........................................................................................................................................................................

Note Postcode for Driving Directions: B7 4BG

Any information about service users contained within this e-mail or attachment is confidential. Please use such data only for the purpose detailed and ensure that if you store this data it is encrypted to prevent unauthorised access. The email is intended only for the named recipient(s) to whom it is addressed

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Dear Paul Campbell,

you have not explained why it took 25 days to have a discussion internally - just that it took 25 days! please provide a full explanation

the information requested by you was provided on the same day through the whatdotheyknow website. It is not acceptable to baldly state that you did not see the information. You are now outside legal guidelines for responding with explanations the Information Commissioner is unlikely to find acceptable. What specific date will I get a full response. Another 20 days as you propose would put you 1.5 months over what the law allows and will not be acceptable. Please revise your date and inform me.

Yours sincerely,

Victoria Martin

Dear Paul Campbell,

I am still awaiting a response to my previous communication. Thank you

Yours sincerely,

Victoria Martin

Dear Birmingham City Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Birmingham City Council's handling of my FOI request 'Learning Disability Statistics'.

I have not received a response to my FOI Request.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/l...

Yours faithfully,

Victoria Martin

Dear Paul Campbell,

you have now also missed the revised timeline set by you. This request has been outstanding for almost 2 calender months now. When will the internal review be complete?

Yours sincerely,

Victoria Martin

Paul Campbell, Birmingham City Council

Dear Victoria Martin,

I apologise for not responding to your e-mails dated 25 February 2014 and 03 March 2014, I have unexpectedly been out of the office.

In response to your query regarding the reasons for the initial delay in requesting clarification, at the time of receipt of your request we were undergoing a transition period with the staff supporting the process. Whilst in this instance this did cause delay we are now in a position where this should not reoccur. I can only apologise for the delay.

With regards to the revised timeline on this request my previous e-mail dated 21 February 2014 stated that this would be 20 working days, which would be 21 March 2014. The request is currently with the relevant colleagues who are in the process of collating the information. I will contact you again on or before 21 March 2014 to update and release any information I am able to at that time.

Kind regards,
Paul Campbell
Prediction Analyst | Public Health Division
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Post: Birmingham City Council, PO Box 16468 , 10 Woodcock Street,  Zone 5, 1st Floor, Birmingham, B2 2DS
...........................................................................................................................................................................
Tel: 0121 303 9462 Email: [email address]
...........................................................................................................................................................................

Note Postcode for Driving Directions: B7 4BG

Any information about service users contained within this e-mail or attachment is confidential. Please use such data only for the purpose detailed and ensure that if you store this data it is encrypted to prevent unauthorised access. The email is intended only for the named recipient(s) to whom it is addressed

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Dear Paul Campbell,

Thank you for the update

Yours sincerely,

Victoria Martin

Paul Campbell, Birmingham City Council

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Dear Victoria Martin,

Further to my e-mail below please see attached response to your request under the Freedom of Information Act.

Kind regards,
Paul Campbell
Prediction Analyst | Public Health Division
...........................................................................................................................................................................
Post: Birmingham City Council, PO Box 16468 , 10 Woodcock Street,  Zone 5, 1st Floor, Birmingham, B2 2DS
...........................................................................................................................................................................
Tel: 0121 303 9462 Email: [email address]
...........................................................................................................................................................................

Note Postcode for Driving Directions: B7 4BG

Any information about service users contained within this e-mail or attachment is confidential. Please use such data only for the purpose detailed and ensure that if you store this data it is encrypted to prevent unauthorised access. The email is intended only for the named recipient(s) to whom it is addressed

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir