Internal Auditors

Tony Wise made this Rhyddid Gwybodaeth request to Blackpool Borough Council

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Roedd y cais yn rhannol lwyddiannus.

Dear Blackpool Borough Council,

I write in the context of the redundancies announced at the Council and the fact that external auditors were engaged whilst internal auditors are employed and paid for by the Council.

Please supply the following information under the Freedom of
Information Act 2000.

1/ What was the total budget for internal audit in the financial years 2006/2007, 2007/2008, 2008/2009, 2009/2010 and that projected/available for 2010/2011?

2/ What was the total cost to the Council of staffing of the internal audit department?

3/ How many people work in the internal audit department?

4/ Please provide the job titles of the ten most senior persons in that department (if there are that many) and the total level of remuneration for those ten employees (aggregate so as to not involve section 40 FOI)?

5/ Please provide the overview manual, or similar, of the internal audit service?

6/ Please provide a general overview of the procedures, role and purpose of the internal audit service?

7/ Please provide the procedures manual for internal audit?

If the request is ambiguous or requires clarification please feel free to ask. I am interested in why external auditors are necessary if there is a full internal audit service in use as paid for by the taxpayer. I am of the view that if large amounts of resources and money are resourced to internal audit it appears to be perverse that the service has to be paid for twice via engaging external auditors.

Yours faithfully,

Tony Wise

Dear Blackpool Borough Council,

Has this request been received alright? I don't appear to have had an acknowledgement

Yours faithfully,

Tony Wise

Customer First, Blackpool Borough Council

Dear Mr Wise

Thank you for your email dated 15th February 2011.

We have checked our computer systems and do not appear to have received
an enquiry from you regarding Internal Auditors.

Please would you resend to the email address listed below.

We will send acknowledgement on receipt.

If you have any further queries, please contact Customer First by:-

Email [Blackpool Borough Council request email]
Telephone 01253 477477
Facsimile 01253 478808
Web site www.blackpool.gov.uk

Or visit the Customer First Centre on Corporation Street Blackpool FY1
1NA.

We are open:-
Monday to Friday 8am to 5:30pm for Face to Face enquiries
Monday to Friday 8am to 6pm for telephone enquiries on 01253 477477.
Saturdays 9am to 2pm for Face to Face and Telephone enquiries

Please note our busiest times are Mondays and Fridays and over lunchtime
(12pm to 2pm).

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Dear Customer First,

There's another 101 requests to Blackpool Borough Council on the "Whatdotheyknow" website. They all appear to have been processed alright. It appears very, very strange that this particular one has not been received. Can you check again because I sent it three weeks ago and I am not happy? Indeed you received my reminder. For clarity the request is below as sent on 29 January 2011.

Tony Wise

29 January 2011
Dear Blackpool Borough Council,

I write in the context of the redundancies announced at the Council and the fact that external auditors were engaged whilst internal auditors are employed and paid for by the Council.

Please supply the following information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

1/ What was the total budget for internal audit in the financial years 2006/2007, 2007/2008, 2008/2009, 2009/2010 and that projected/available for 2010/2011?

2/ What was the total cost to the Council of staffing of the internal audit department?

3/ How many people work in the internal audit department?

4/ Please provide the job titles of the ten most senior persons in that department (if there are that many) and the total level of remuneration for those ten employees (aggregate so as to not involve section 40 FOI)?

5/ Please provide the overview manual, or similar, of the internal audit service?

6/ Please provide a general overview of the procedures, role and purpose of the internal audit service?

7/ Please provide the procedures manual for internal audit?

If the request is ambiguous or requires clarification please feel free to ask. I am interested in why external auditors are necessary if there is a full internal audit service in use as paid for by the
taxpayer. I am of the view that if large amounts of resources and money are resourced to internal audit it appears to be perverse that the service has to be paid for twice via engaging external auditors.

Yours faithfully,

Tony Wise

Customer First, Blackpool Borough Council

Dear Mr Wise,

Thank you for your email dated 16/02/11.

I have checked all emails received in the Customer First mailbox during
the month of January 2011 and can find no trace of your email dated
29/01/11.

So that we can deal with your enquiry, your email has been sent to: -

Department:Freedom of Information Officer Finance and Audit
Telephone Number: 01253 477477
Email Address:[Blackpool Borough Council request email]

This Department will now deal with your enquiry.

If you have any further queries, please contact Customer First by:-

Email [Blackpool Borough Council request email]
Telephone 01253 477477
Facsimile 01253 478808
Web site www.blackpool.gov.uk

Or visit the Customer First Centre on Corporation Street Blackpool FY1
1NA.

We are open:-
Monday to Friday 8am to 5:30pm for Face to Face enquiries
Monday to Friday 8am to 6pm for telephone enquiries on 01253 477477.
Saturdays 9am to 2pm for Face to Face and Telephone enquiries

Please note our busiest times are Mondays and Fridays and over lunchtime
(12pm to 2pm).

Regards, Customer First .
Customer First, Blackpool Council
* Email: [Blackpool Borough Council request email]
* Phone: 01253 477477
* Fax: 01253 478808
* Web: www.blackpool.gov.uk

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Dear Customer First,

No worries. In the light of this curious anomaly I am sure that my request will be given some amount of precedence.

Yours sincerely,

Tony Wise

Gadawodd Stephen Dunstan anodiad ()

Tony,

I am sorry that your request was not picked up for some reason. The reason why the Council has both internal and external audit provision is because it is a statutory requirement for local authorities to have both.

If you still require an answer to the seven questions I will be happy to provide this.

Stephen Dunstan
Chief Internal Auditor
Blackpool Council

Dear Customer First and Mr Dunstan,

A full response under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act will suffice. I need to have the option of applying to the Information Commissioner if I am not satisfied.

As you state it may be a statutory requirement in narrow or annual terms such as by the Audit Commission etc. But the circumstances in which I have requested information are entirely different.

Please just respond in line with FOI. However thank you for the offer.

Yours sincerely,

Tony Wise

Customer First, Blackpool Borough Council

Dear Mr Wise

Thank you for your email dated 17 february 2011

So that we can deal with your enquiry, your email has been sent to: -

Department: Mr Stephen Dunstan Chief Internal Auditor

This Department will now deal with your enquiry.

If you have any further queries, please contact Customer First by:-

Email [Blackpool Borough Council request email]
Telephone 01253 477477
Facsimile 01253 478808
Web site www.blackpool.gov.uk

Or visit the Customer First Centre on Corporation Street Blackpool FY1
1NA.

We are open:-
Monday to Friday 8am to 5:30pm for Face to Face enquiries
Monday to Friday 8am to 6pm for telephone enquiries on 01253 477477.
Saturdays 9am to 2pm for Face to Face and Telephone enquiries

Please note our busiest times are Mondays and Fridays and over lunchtime
(12pm to 2pm

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Stephen Dunstan, Blackpool Borough Council

2 Atodiad

1/ What was the total budget for internal audit in the financial
years 2006/2007, 2007/2008, 2008/2009, 2009/2010 and that
projected/available for 2010/2011?

See below.

2/ What was the total cost to the Council of staffing of the
internal audit department?

2006/07 £403,304
2007/08 £389,805
2008/09 £402,773
2009/10 £483,112

The budget of the department is almost entirely staffing related costs. The increase in 2009/10 was due to transfer of two staff from elsewhere in the authority to undertake value for money audits.

3/ How many people work in the internal audit department?

Nine including the Chief Internal Auditor, who also has responsibility for three other service areas.

4/ Please provide the job titles of the ten most senior persons in
that department (if there are that many) and the total level of
remuneration for those ten employees (aggregate so as to not
involve section 40 FOI)?

Cbief Internal Auditor
Audit Manager
Auditor x7 (including two value for money auditors)
The figures at 2) above give an indication of expenditure given the question does not mention a specific period.

5/ Please provide the overview manual, or similar, of the internal
audit service?

The annual audit plan is considered to be the nearest equivalent to this and the most recent copy is attached.

6/ Please provide a general overview of the procedures, role and
purpose of the internal audit service?

The Audit Charter is considered to be the nearest equivalent to this and a copy is an appendix to the audit plan referred to at 6) above.

7/ Please provide the procedures manual for internal audit?

A copy is attached.

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