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Independent Grenfell Tower Recovery Taskforce

Steven King made this Rhyddid Gwybodaeth request to Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government

This request has been closed to new correspondence from the public body. Contact us if you think it ought be re-opened.

We're waiting for Steven King to read recent responses and update the status.

Dear Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government,

On 28 July 2017 I submitted a Freedom of Information request to you via this website - whatdotheyknow , but did not receive any acknowledgement or response until 09 November 2017 ( when you were known as Department for Communities and Local Government ).

Will you please provide me with ALL the documents that you hold to give me total clarity on how my request ( your ref 3516968 ) was handled as clearly the correct processes and requirements placed upon you by the Freedom of Information Act were not followed and it also took four months for you to write back to me without providing the information and documents I requested.

I am told I am out of time to request a review of the previous request due to my serious ill health and need to make this fresh request to obtain transparency and the documents and information I requested last July 2017.

Yours faithfully,

Steven King

FoI Requests, Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government

Dear Mr King

 

Many thanks for your email.  

 

The Freedom of Information Act (2000) gives individuals and organisations
the right of access to all types of recorded information held, at the time
the request is received, by public authorities such as MHCLG. Section 84
of the Act states that in order for a request for information to be
handled as a Freedom of Information (FOI) request, it must be for recorded
information. For example, a Freedom of Information request would be for a
copy of a policy or other documents, rather than an explanation as to why
we have that policy in place. In large part we believed that your original
correspondence would be best responded to directly by the policy area
concerned, given the numbers and types of questions it contained.

 

There would be no recorded information concerning our decision to send
your correspondence to policy colleagues for reply.

 

However, if you could set out clearly the recorded information that you
are interested in obtaining from the Department, then we would be happy to
formally log the request and deal with under FOIA.

 

With best wishes

 

 

MHCLG FOI Team

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Dear MHCLG FoI Requests Team,

Thank you for acknowledging my Freedom of Information request, albeit in an unconventional manner.

I fail to understand your reasoning in the main paragraph of your statement ?
My request IS for recorded information - recorded information on how my FOIA request was handled,
and the documents that were produced and considered
Do you have any record of when and why my original FOIA request was sent to a policy team, rather than dealt with by the FOIA team ?
I did describe the documents I was seeking in my original request - also mentioned in this request, and of course I would like to see all the decisions made throughout the process please.
I believe the Right to Know should also be PROPERLY considered by yourselves.
You have a full copy of my original FOIA request , and a copy of this one and I have answered your questions.
A further copy of my original request as it is now appears on the whatdotheyknow website.

Given that well outside the Legal timeframe, your policy department did reply to whatdotheyknow - a website used entirely for FOIA requests to public authorities and bodies, your policy team knew from the source and the wording of my original request that it was a FOI request - maybe in the same way you did when you received it , but ignored my Rights under FOIA to comply with the Legal timescales and failed to keep me updated or seek my agreement for it to be handled in a different manner to that which I submitted it to you ?

I think it most unlikely that 'there would be no recorded information ' in respect of how my original request was passed elsewhere and no FOIA response provided and why the four months delay - maybe someone decided or instructed not to respond to my original request - hence the 4 months delay without any update or contact with you ?

I made a very similar request to this one to another public body after taking advice from the Information Commissioner why agreed with me, they provided me with complete and clear records of the irregularities in the handling of my FOIA request and apologised - which to date you have not done ?

Within my original request - and this one and my response to your questions , I believe I have clearly set out the recorded information that I am seeking from MHCLG, and I ask you also to provide the information I am clearly seeking, and also a detailed response under the Right to Know please that will cover all areas where you choose to destroy or withold the information I am seeking.

I think your ' with best wishes ' is insincere, as clearly you are not following the correct processes and Legislation and policies when dealing with my request.

A timely open and transparent request might go a small part of the way of showing me how seriously this government body is in complying with the publics Rights under Legislation etc.

I wish to receive a complete and detailed response that complies fully with all my Rights to the information I have requested here on the whatdotheyknow website.

I understand your reluctance to comply with my request properly and in full, but if the Home Secretary and Prime Minister can apologise openly and answer many questions, surely so can you ?

May I add, I am an elderly disabled man and failure to continue complying with my Rights will potentially
cause me significant harm, damage and distress - and I trust as your response follows so soon after the
'Windrush Scandal' , the MNCLG has failed to learn how cruel and unfair harsh treatment damages peoples lives - sometimes permanently. Please therefore give me a ' reasonable adjustment ' under the Equality Act
and deal with these requests in an honest and fair way from now on ?
Yours sincerely,

Steven King

FoI Requests, Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government

Dear Mr King

Thanks again for your email and we're sorry that you were dissatisfied with the response sent to you by our policy colleagues. We will re-visit your original correspondence and deal with this under FOIA 2000.

MHCLG FOI Team

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Thank you for your email. We are currently processing your request. If you
have any questions, please ask by return email. Please don’t change the
subject line when replying as this could delay your message getting to the
right person.
 
Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government
Fry Building
2 Marsham Street
London
SW1P 4DF
 
 
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Dear Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government,

Thank you for your two emails in response to my own.

I note you are now using a reference number 3749101 and wonder if this is now being treated as a new FOIA request and will be handled as such ?

To be clear, I am expecting to receive a copy of my original request that you received last year - followed by a trail that I will be able to follow and understand that will show me how and why any changes were made to my original request - all notes and emails , and total clarity and openness throughout that will show me how my request appears to have been changed by you from a Freedom of Information request into just an enquiry, and will show me why you failed to respond within the required Legislatory timescales.

Clearly, your proper full response that I am expecting now along with full and sincere apologies and explanations as to why my FOIA request was not handled as it should have been is expected.

Yours faithfully,

Steven King

Despatch Box,

                            
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Dear Mr King
 
Freedom of Information Act 2000
 
Thank you for contacting us on 25 April 2018 requesting information in
relation to the Grenfell Tower Recovery Taskforce:

1.Were the people selected put through a selection process , did they need
to apply for the position, did they provide information about themselves
or complete applications of any sort?

Can I please see all the forms completed and information provided and
considered ?

2.How were the positions advertised , or how were the candidates chosen -
how many applicants were there ?

3.What payments, expenses , costs, salaries or other benefits or in kind
payments are to be made to those selected - and who selected them - a
committee , former residents of the tower , I would like to know the
name/titles of all involved in the decision making process and to see
documents of all meetings showing the selection process - including the
interview records please ?

4.I can see in your press release, a lot of qualities for those appointed,
eg " a wealth of experience in local government ... " , although I have
previously found ' a wealth of experience ' does not necessarily mean they
will act in the best interests of or in accordance with the wishes of the
survivors ? Does ALL of the other material within your press release apply
to each of the taskforce members individually , or is it a generalisation
for the group ?

5.I trust those selecting the taskforce will have closely scrutinised each
of those appointed, and will have made themselves aware of all negative
and adverse reasons why any particular taskforce member may not be
suitable for the post. What were the checks carried out and did all of
those selected have a ' clean sheet ' so as to deal with some of the most
vulnerable survivors in England ? How thorough were these checks and what
were the findings ?

6.I ask why Baroness Jane Scott of Bybrook OBE is not given her full title
within your press release - although I understand fully why some may be
wary of ' the establishment ' , but why cover it up ?

7.Have those appointing the Taskforce made themselves aware of ANY
Safeguarding Concerns or Alerts in respect of individuals appointed, and
what checks have been carried out to show without any doubt that these
people are fit and proper people who will ensure all the essential and
required standards are met throughout there involvement with the taskforce
? What is their remit , and their individual remits ?

8.Having had close dealings with Baroness Jane Scott of Bybrook OBE as
Leader of Wiltshire Council, I am not able to recognise the quality "
protecting those who are most vulnerable " from her individual
description, as both Jane Scott and myself know this to be untrue ? I
wonder if Baroness Jane Scott OBE has made your selection panel aware of
her discussion LIVE with me on Wiltshire Radio on 02 03 2017, when she
promised to come and see me ( a vulnerable disabled elderly man ) within 7
days, but never contacted me again ?

9.Are you aware Wiltshire Council Adult Safeguarding Team ( and Directors
) are aware that where Baroness Jane Scott OBE as leader of the Wiltshire
Council has failed to do what she said she would ( back in March 2017 ) I
have now reported her abuse of me under Adult Safeguarding Procedures -
back in March - as the policy states if someone in authority promises to
do something, but then fails to do so this is abuse ,but no action or
support has been put in place by HER team and I feel my health and
wellbeing is now deteriorating and being deliberately harmed by her and
Wiltshire Council who are failing to act
 
I am dealing with your request under the Freedom of Information Act
2000 and aim to send you a response by 24 May 2018.
 
 
 
Yours sincerely
 
 
MHCLG FOI Team
 
 
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Dear Mr King
 
Thank you for your request for information received on 25 April 2018.
 
I have attached our formal response to your request, and the information
you asked for.
 
Knowledge and Information Access Team
Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government
 
 
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Dear Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government's handling of my FOI request 'Independent Grenfell Tower Recovery Taskforce'

Your ref : 3749101
Thank you for your response dated 24 May .

I made a Freedom of Information request to you when you were known as the Department for Communities and Local Government on 28 July 2017 - that request of mine still appears on the whatdotheyknow website
your reference number then was 3516968 .

THIS request is very clearly described within my request here dated 23 April 2018, and as it comprises of just three short paragraphs, I ask you to carry out a thorough and careful review of the matters I asked about within this request, and an apparently different set of information that you sent me ?

Had you provided me with the information I requested here within this request, logic suggests the information I requested on 28 July 2017 , along with the considerations and reasons for the delay and the information I requested then would also appear within this disclosure ?

I ask you to send me all the emails, notes, records of any sort that will demonstrate the culture of openness and transparency the government now promotes, and ask you to show me the data trail of how this request was progressed and responded to through DCLG and MHCLG please.

I am sorry I need to request a review of your handling of my request, but trust this will lead to an improvement in the way you respond to FOIA applicants ?

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/i...

Yours faithfully,

Steven King

Despatch Box,

                            
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Dear Mr King
 
Internal review under the Freedom of Information Act 2000
 
Thank you for your email which we received on 31 May 2018. I am sorry that
you are dissatisfied with our attempts to handle your request under
the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

Please can you confirm that we have correctly understood your request: 

 1. You have requested an internal review of MHCLG’s response to your
Freedom of Information request (reference 3749101 and 3516968). The
purpose of an internal review is to consider whether the requirements
of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 have been fulfilled.

 2. You have also requested the emails, notes and records of how your
request was progressed and responded to through DCLG and MHCLG. This
will be treated as a new request under the FOI Act 2000.

We will consider your concerns and aim to provide you with a response
by 28 June 2018.

Yours sincerely,

FOI Team

Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government

 
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Dear FOI Team, MHCLG ,

3749101

Thank you for you email of 01 06 2018.

As you know, I am disabled with a mental health injury and expect all of the help and support you ae able to provide me with under the various Equality and other Acts .

I am finding it upsetting that you appear to not understand me - where most others can - why is that ?

1. Yes I have requested reviews regarding BOTH requests.
The review is requested so I can very clearly identify ALL of the answers to ALL of the matters that I
have asked about within both of the requests, and so I can see ALL of the reasons for the delays in
providing such an apparently restricted and limited response , that does not appear to comply with
FOIA guidelines and Legislation ? I wish to see the data trail on how these requests have been handled
by your organisations.

2. Maybe you are buying yourself extra time here, but within the requests I have already submitted to you,
I would have expected not a part disclosure that maybe best suits yourselves, but a FULL and COMPLETE
disclosure of all the information I have asked for within the 20 working days of my requests ?
If you are NOW treating this as a new request please provide me with the reference number, and respond
to the request you are now treating as a ' new request ' clearly and in separate emails from the original
request.

I ask that the person carrying out the reviews looks carefully at the requests, from start to finish , and subsequent emails that ive had with you , that raise further matters that require responses.
If you are unable to deal with my request in ' plain English ' , do you provide support or advocacy for those who have serious long term mental health injuries to understand the apparent barriers that are being put in my way ? I would like to see each section of each question within each email receiving a proper and fair response - without spin , cover up or obfuscation please - this causes me further harm and distress.

If the person carrying out the review is unclear about ANY matter ive raised, will they please email me back for clarification in every instance.

Yours sincerely,

Steven King

Despatch Box,

Dear Mr King,
 
Thank you for your response and confirmation that we have correctly
understood your request.
 
It is not usual for an internal review to disclose 'data trail'
information on the handling of a request. Under the terms of the FOI Act,
any request for the 'data trail' on how requests have been handled would
usually be considered as a new request, separate to an internal review. 
 
However, in this case, we will handle both your internal review request
and request for the data trail under the same reference number so that you
only need to quote reference number 3749101 if contacting us about this
request.
Yours sincerely,

FOI Team 
Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government
 

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Dear FOI Team, MHCLG ,

3749101

Thank you for you email of 01 06 2018.

As you know, I am disabled with a mental health injury and expect all of
the help and support you ae able to provide me with under the various
Equality and other Acts .

I am finding it upsetting that you appear to not understand me - where
most others can - why is that ?

1. Yes I have requested reviews regarding BOTH requests.
The review is requested so I can very clearly identify ALL of the answers
to ALL of the matters that I
have asked about within both of the requests, and so I can see ALL of the
reasons for the delays in
providing such an apparently restricted and limited response , that does
not appear to comply with
FOIA guidelines and Legislation ? I wish to see the data trail on how
these requests have been handled
by your organisations.

2. Maybe you are buying yourself extra time here, but within the requests
I have already submitted to you,
I would have expected not a part disclosure that maybe best suits
yourselves, but a FULL and COMPLETE
disclosure of all the information I have asked for within the 20 working
days of my requests ?
If you are NOW treating this as a new request please provide me with the
reference number, and respond
to the request you are now treating as a ' new request ' clearly and in
separate emails from the original
request.

I ask that the person carrying out the reviews looks carefully at the
requests, from start to finish , and subsequent emails that ive had with
you , that raise further matters that require responses.
If you are unable to deal with my request in ' plain English ' , do you
provide support or advocacy for those who have serious long term mental
health injuries to understand the apparent barriers that are being put in
my way ? I would like to see each section of each question within each
email receiving a proper and fair response - without spin , cover up or
obfuscation please - this causes me further harm and distress.

If the person carrying out the review is unclear about ANY matter ive
raised, will they please email me back for clarification in every
instance.

Yours sincerely,

Steven King

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Despatch Box,

                            
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Dear Mr King
 
Internal review under the Freedom of Information Act 2000
 
I am writing with regard to your request for an internal review of your
FOI request concerning the Grenfell Tower Recovery Taskforce.
 
We are processing your request but require further time to consider the
issues you have raised. We're sorry for this delay; we will try to respond
to you by 26 July 2018.
 
If you are unhappy with the outcome of this internal review, you can ask
the independent Information Commissioner to investigate. The Information
Commissioner can be contacted at email address [1][email address] or
use their online form at [2]ico.org.uk/concerns or call them on 0303 123
1113.
 
Yours sincerely
 
FOI Team
Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government 
 
 
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Dear Despatch Box,
Ref: 3749101

Thank you for your email of Friday 29 June 2018, sent at 16.58 pm.

I find it upsetting that my requests are taking many many months to receive a proper response that should have both been dealt with within 20 working days ?
Please ensure your review response includes the dates my two requests were submitted, and the many delaying emails I received whilst you were handling them.
I fail to understand why such a simple ' in house ' request is taking so long, and would be interested to know why many other people exercising their Freedom of Information Act Rights by submitting their requests to you are receiving their responses within the Legislatory timescale - whereas I am not ?
Are those who are of a lower social class, or who are vulnerable and unsupported, disabled or have a mental health injury deliberately treated unfairly, or have their Rights ignored by the two government departments I have written to ?
This clearly has a negative effect on my health and wellbeing - especially as it appears to now be a discriminatory trend against me by local and national government agencies ?
When you fail to comply with a vulnerable persons Rights, how is it reported internally and externally at the MHCLG, and will I be contacted separately to establsh the damage done ?

Yours sincerely,

Steven King

Despatch Box,

Dear Mr King,
 
We appreciate the delay in responding to your internal review request is
frustrating and we apologise for this. We are working to provide you with
a response as soon as possible, but require further time to complete our
enquiries to ensure that we provide you with any information you are
entitled to under the FOI legislation.

If you are unhappy with our handling of your request, you can ask the
independent Information Commissioner to investigate. The Information
Commissioner can be contacted at email address [1][email address] or
use their online form at ico.org.uk/concerns or call them on 0303 123
1113.

Yours sincerely,

MHCLG FOI Team

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Dear Despatch Box,
Ref: 3749101

Thank you for your email of Friday 29 June 2018, sent at 16.58 pm.

I find it upsetting that my requests are taking many many months to
receive a proper response that should have both been dealt with within 20
working days ?
Please ensure your review response includes the dates my two requests were
submitted, and the many delaying emails I received whilst you were
handling them.
I fail to understand why such a simple ' in house ' request is taking so
long, and would be interested to know why many other people exercising
their Freedom of Information Act Rights by submitting their requests to
you are receiving their responses within the Legislatory timescale -
whereas I am not ?
Are those who are of a lower social class, or who are vulnerable and
unsupported, disabled or have a mental health injury deliberately treated
unfairly, or have their Rights ignored by the two government departments I
have written to ?
This clearly has a negative effect on my health and wellbeing - especially
as it appears to now be a discriminatory trend against me by local and
national government agencies ?
When you fail to comply with a vulnerable persons Rights, how is it
reported internally and externally at the MHCLG, and will I be contacted
separately to establsh the damage done ?

Yours sincerely,

Steven King

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Despatch Box,

1 Atodiad

                            
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Dear Mr King,
 
Please find attached our response to your request for an internal review
of MHCLG's handling of your FOI request relating to the Grenfell Recovery
Taskforce.
 
You also requested document processing notes for both requests. As
explained in previous correspondence, processing notes are not usually
included as part of the review response, although the reviewer will
consider these when investigating the Department's handling of a request.
 
We will issue a further response to you regarding these notes under the
same reference number (3749101).

Yours sincerely,

MHCLG FOI Team

 

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Dear Mr King,
 
Please find attached our response to your request for the processing notes
and emails concerning your requests for information reference number
3749101 and 3516968. Also attached is a copy of the information you
requested.
 
Yours sincerely
 
MHCLG FOI Team
 
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Nid ydym yn gwybod a yw'r ymateb mwyaf diweddar i'r cais hwn yn cynnwys gwybodaeth neuai peidio - os chi ywSteven King mewngofnodwch a gadael i bawb wybod.