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Dear Ministry of Justice,

what is the policy of the ministry of justice when gods law and mans law come into conflict or indeed differ. Which is deemed as a matter of policy to be supreme.

Yours faithfully,

bob jones

Data Access & Compliance Unit, Ministry of Justice

Dear Mr Jones,

I am writing to advise you that your enquiry does not fall under the Freedom of Information request and will be dealt with by the department as Official Correspondence.

It may be helpful if I explain that the Freedom of Information Act (2000) gives individuals and organisations the right of access to all types of recorded information held, at the time the request is received, by public authorities such as the Ministry of Justice (MoJ). Section 84 of the Act states that in order for a request for information to be handled as a Freedom of Information (FOI) request, it must be for recorded information. For example, a Freedom of Information request would be for a copy of a policy, rather than an explanation as to why we have that policy in place. On occasion, we receive requests that do not ask for a copy of recorded information, but ask more general questions about, for example, a policy, opinion or a decision.

Since you are asking for policy details, and this is information that can be provided to you without the requirement of the Freedom of information Act, I have passed this to our Ministerial Correspondence Unit (MCU) who will process your query as Official Correspondence.

I have copied them into this e-mail but they can be contacted via e-mail at the following address [email address] should you wish to follow up this e-mail.

Best Wishes
Kate

Kate Balding|Business Coordinator

Data Access & Compliance Unit
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Underwood, Neil, Ministry of Justice

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Becky Bbear left an annotation ()

Bob - Well that was predicable, still...not a bad turnround time on the response.

I would at least have made some reference to the separation of Church and State, or explained that 'God's Law' is based on personal belief while 'Man's Law' is based on legislation (both enacted and as interpreted over time) - Faith vs Secularism in a way.

I would also have mentioned the Motorcycle Crash Helmets (Religious Exemption) Act 1976, as it seems a perfect example of God's Law being recognised by the amendment of Man's Law - where the two conflict with each other.

Feel like following that point up with them?

Becky

Dear mr Underwood,

thank you for your response and my appologies for the long delay in my reply to you. I am perplexed by a statement in your reply in which you effectively say that the Misistry of Justice is responsible for making the Law?. I was under the impression that this was the sole preserve of the duly elected members of parliament and not a function of a government department. Could you direct me to the statutes or acts which ammended this position. Even judges are not as far as I'm aware allwoed to make the law even though they may adjust via interpretation. Would it not also be true to say that parliament passes statutes and acts having legal effect, they are not howvever by true definition the law as this preceeds even parliament.

As a supposed God fearing christian country whos values are supposed to stem from the bible werein it states that man should not make his own laws but rather follow those already laid down by god. I was interested to understand government policy in usurping the laws of God. perhaps you could enlighten me on this please.

yours faithfully

bob jones

Yours sincerely,

bob jones

Underwood, Neil, Ministry of Justice

I am now out of the office and will return on 1 August. I will deal with your email on my return. Thanks.

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Alastair Patterson left an annotation ()

This is an excellent question and well within FOI.

The Sovereign's oath of office is to do the utmost in her powers to maintain the laws of god and profess the true gospel. In my view it is the gospel within the King James Authorised Bible, that is why it is authorised.

The laws of god are man's law. The courts should ensure that man's law is consistent with the true profession of the gospel. Lord McKay of Clashfern, a former Lord Chancellor and editor in chief of Halsbury's Laws of England, considers that judiciary should follow the authorised version. A copy was sent to Scottish Judiciary.

The role of the Sovereign is to ensure that the law is complete. It is a restatement of Magana Carta, the state must always act in accordance with the law. That is, there must always be a law that allows it to act.

It is the problem we have at the moment. The law is FOI , the way we find out what the state may do and if it has done it or not. There is an interesting thread on CAFCASS at the moment. CAFCASS do not maintain the data that enables them to be held to account for their extensive and long running child safeguarding failures and the Information Commissioner will do nothing about it.

Children are dying as a result and nothing can be done, because there is no law.

Alastair

Dear neil Underwood,
i appreciate that your break from your office may have caused a delay in response times but i think 3 1/2 months may be a slight overkill. Please could you allocate some time to respond

Yours sincerely,

bob jones

CLPU, Correspondence, Ministry of Justice

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