Expenditure\costs Moat \McGartland

Jeff Hayward made this Rhyddid Gwybodaeth request to Northumbria Police

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Dear Northumbria Police,

Please could you furnish me with the cost\expenditure to date as
regards the investigation
of 'attempted murder of a Mr Martin McGartland in Whitley Bay on
17th June 1999.It has come to my attention that the cost of the
hunt and subsequent police operation in apprehending 'Raoul Moat'
is to released to a councilor Steven Bridgett (Lib Dem) who was
initially refused this information...

I hope and trust in your good selves that your decision to release
this information to councilor Bridgett is not one of 'favoritism'
or it is simply because Mr Bridgett is a councilor and this
information will now be available to anyone who requests it....

The information i seek therefore is the following...

1\ What is the cost\expenditure to date in full as regards the
police operation in apprehending Raoul Moat ?

2\ What is the cost\expenditure to date as regards the police
operation into the 'attempted murder of a Mr Martin McGartland' ?

Many thanks for your time with regard to both these matters and
lastly may i bring your attention to the statement below,

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POLICE chiefs have agreed to reveal the cost of the manhunt for
killer Raoul Moat.

The move comes seven months after Moat went on the rampage and hid
in the village of Rothbury, in Northumberland.

Lib Dem county councillor Steven Bridgett, who represents Rothbury,
used the Freedom of Information Act to make an application to find
out the cost of the investigation but was initially refused.

Now Coun Bridgett says he received a phone call from the Deputy
Chief Constable Jim Campbell telling him he will have the figures
in a few days.

Link;
http://www.journallive.co.uk/northumberl...

Once again many thanks for you attention to said matters,

Yours faithfully,

Jeff Hayward

Northumbria Police

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1. What is the cost\expenditure to date in full as regards the police
operation in apprehending Raoul Moat ?

2. What is the cost\expenditure to date as regards the police operation
into the attempted murder of a Mr Martin McGartland ?

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Dear Northumbria Police,
Many thanks for your prompt reply and for your link to 'cost\expenditure' as regards the police operation in apprehending Raoul Moat.I found your good selves most helpful in this matter.

As for my request as regards 'cost\expenditure' in relation to 'attempted murder of Mr Martin McGartland' i find you have furnished me with a link containing
information about 'counsel costs' which have been
'incurred' by your good selves in relation to said case
see below....
4. Northumbria Police has assessed that your reference to professional fees is with regard to any costs associated with Counsels fees which have been incurred by the force in relation to the case to which you refer. Accordingly, the recorded information in relation to those figures is provided below:

1999/2000

£1802.50

2001/2002

£675.00

2004/2005

£2525.00

This is not the information i requested from you.The information i requested was in the same context as
my first request 'cost\expenditure Raoul Moat'.That is to say.....What is the cost\expenditure to date (over a 12 year period) as regards the police operation and investigation into 'attempted murder of Mr Martin McGartland'.

I am aware of section 12 of the freedom of information
act which states....A public authority is not obliged
to comply with such a request if it is estimated that
the request would 'exceed' the appropriate limit of 18 hours equating to the sum of £450.00

I therefore request for any information about cost\
expenditure as regards 'attempted murder of Mr Martin
McGartland be released up to and within said period and not exceeding the 18 hour\£450.00 limit with respect.I must point out that Northumbria police have at no point released this information into the public
domain and i would estimate that an investigation of this kind would run into 'millions' of pounds over a 12 year period.As your are government body,funded by the public\tax payer i believe it is more than in the 'public interest' to have said information released immediately.Authorities such as yourselves are in receipt of tax payers monies and therefore are accountable for how said monies are spent and should
provide a breakdown of said monies...as in this case !

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'Vexatious'

As you are unwilling to furnish me with information i have requested from your good selves about this case
and finding your replies some what 'evasive' as regards said matter,i have therefore sent you further requests for information.Northumbria police are deeming these requests as 'vexatious' which i personally find distasteful and must point out that this is a matter for the information Commissioner to decide not Northumbria police...

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Can Northumbria police explain to me this......
What is the difference between 'cost\expenditure Moat' information disclosure and that of 'cost\expenditure McGartland' information disclosure ?

The 'McGartland' information disclosure is very much in the public interest because after all 'Moat' is dead and is no longer a threat to the public but on the other hand as regards Mr McGartlands case i find it very worrying as a member of said public that there are still 2\3 individuals on the streets who...

1)Have access to firearms and ammunition
2)Who have proven their willingness to use said firearms on members of the public as and when it suits their purposes

I do wonder what other 'unsolved' shootings these individuals could be involved with !

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Do Northumbria police not have any figures at all as regards the costs of this investigation to date ??

Surely Northumbria police must have some records to
costs in this case ?

I am absolutely convinced that the reason northumbria police are withholding this information is nothing to do with incurred costs but is solely down to embarrassment on their part over the handling of said investigation into the 'Attempted murder of Mr McGartland'.I will be raising this issue with the
information commissioner as with all other requests into this matter...

Once again many thanks for your attention to this
ongoing matter...

Yours faithfully,

Jeff Hayward

Gadawodd Martin McGartland (Ataliwyd y cyfrif) anodiad ()

This is not the first time the British State have used the ‘National security’ tactic as an excuse for not giving a full response to controversial questions and allegations concerning their dealings with the 1999 attempted murder of ex- British agent Martin McGartland. This is what they do, they cover-up, they lie, they break the law and they are protecting the IRA terrorists who carried out the shooting of Martin McGartland, they have been doing so for the past 12 years. Just have a look at some of the dirty tricks of the British State; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11yk7p3Kp...
www.martinmcgartland.co.uk