Do you allow the public to record their calls with you ?

Torfaen County Borough Council Nid oedd gan y wybodaeth y gofynnwyd amdani.

Dear Torfaen Council,

1) Are Service Users clients customers the general public allowed to audio-visually record meeting and calls with your staff? If so, do they require permission or are they permitted to do so covertly? For eg with staff social workers police etc.

2) Do you have any guidance or policy for the public or service users to record calls when they speak to your staff

3) What is your organisations protocol understanding on using the Dransfield vexastious ruling and how many times has it been used have any one said the ruling or your reply was not fair how many people got a appeal overturned in their favour when dransfield was used incorrectly. .

4) Do you Inform Users they can record. If the answer is no what is the reason for this please if so do send me a copy.

5) Are service users made aware of their right to record the encounter, if they choose to do so? Is this reflected in you policy document on the matter?

6) Does your organisation have an “Unacceptable Behaviour” policy? If so, please can you provide me with a copy? Regarding court staff the public or the court itself.

7) If such a policy contains points of objectionable behaviour such as telephones calls being recorded by the caller due to them being not necessary or unwanted or needed, and furthermore the staff members may feel threatened or apprehensive, are you aware that denying users the right to record calls goes against the current UK laws.

8) Are your policies and procedures compliant with the public right to audio-visually record encounters with your staff, without their consent? If not, will you provide appropriate training for your staff so they are fully informed of the Public right to record? If so what law guides you a link or copy please.

9) What is our organisations current charging policy for Freedom of Information requests (FOI) or Subject Access Requests (SAR)? If charges are applied are concessions available for those on low income or students?

10) What is your organisations complaints policy? Please can you forward me a copy? Does your complaints procedure permit service users evidence such as covert call recordings to form part of the investigation?

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Yours faithfully,

Andrew Peacher

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Dear Adam Peacher

 

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Hello FOI team,

This email has been sent to you from Torfaen County Borough Council by one of your customers. They have reported the incident and captured
all the details in an aid to help you resolve the issue quickly:

SERVICE REQUEST #      2805010

CATEGORY    Customer Contact

Contact Details

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Email Address [email address]

Information

Type of contact
Email
Title of email
Freedom of Information request - Do you allow the public to record their calls with you ?
Customer email
Dear Torfaen Council, 1) Are Service Users clients customers the general public allowed to audio-visually record meeting and calls with
your staff? If so, do they require permission or are they permitted to do so covertly? For eg with staff social workers police etc. 2) Do
you have any guidance or policy for the public or service users to record calls when they speak to your staff 3) What is your
organisations protocol understanding on using the Dransfield vexastious ruling and how many times has it been used have any one said the
ruling or your reply was not fair how many people got a appeal overturned in their favour when dransfield was used incorrectly. . 4) Do
you Inform Users they can record. If the answer is no what is the reason for this please if so do send me a copy. 5) Are service users
made aware of their right to record the encounter, if they choose to do so? Is this reflected in you policy document on the matter? 6)
Does your organisation have an “Unacceptable Behaviour” policy? If so, please can you provide me with a copy? Regarding court staff the
public or the court itself. 7) If such a policy contains points of objectionable behaviour such as telephones calls being recorded by the
caller due to them being not necessary or unwanted or needed, and furthermore the staff members may feel threatened or apprehensive, are
you aware that denying users the right to record calls goes against the current UK laws. 8) Are your policies and procedures compliant
  with the public right to audio-visually record encounters with your staff, without their consent? If not, will you provide appropriate
training for your staff so they are fully informed of the Public right to record? If so what law guides you a link or copy please. 9) What
is our organisations current charging policy for Freedom of Information requests (FOI) or Subject Access Requests (SAR)? If charges are
applied are concessions available for those on low income or students? 10) What is your organisations complaints policy? Please can you
forward me a copy? Does your complaints procedure permit service users evidence such as covert call recordings to form part of the
investigation?
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Yours faithfully, Andrew Peacher
What action has been taken?
Referred to another department
Which department has the email been referred to?
Freedom Of Information ([Torfaen County Borough Council request email])
Date email was received
20-10-2018
Customer Name
Adam Peacher
Customer Email Address
[FOI #527650 email]

Thanks for contacting Torfaen Council. An officer from Call Torfaen will now manage your request.  We will only contact you if we need any
further information, but you can follow progress of your request in the app’s My Reports section or [20]your customer portal.

Best wishes

Call Torfaen

Torfaen County Borough Council

 

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here:  [21]Torfaen Council Privacy Notice

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ddylech ddadlennu, copïo na dosbarthu'r wybodaeth neu ei defnyddio i
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Cewch ateb Cymraeg i bob gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg ac ni fydd yn arwain i
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ei wneud yn unol â'r gofynion sydd arnom ni o dan y Rheoliad Diogelu Data
Cyffredinol (RhDDC) (UE) 2016/679. Am fwy o wybodaeth ar sut yr ydym yn
gwneud hyn gwelwch ein Hysbysiad Preifatrwydd

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gyfer y derbynnydd yn unig. Os nad chi yw’r sawl y cyfeiriwyd hi ato, ni
ddylech ddadlennu, copïo na dosbarthu'r wybodaeth neu ei defnyddio i
weithredu. Os derbyniwch yr e-bost yma fel camgymeriad, gadewch i ni wybod
ar unwaith drwy ffonio ++44 (0) 1495 766366, a danfonwch yr e-bost yn ol
gydag unrhyw atodiadau. RHYBUDD: Gwnewch yn siwr bod gennych ddiogelwch
feirws digonol cyn agor neu ddatgysylltu unrhyw ddogfen sydd yn atodiad
i'r e-bost hwn. Mae’r Cyngor yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg a Saesneg.
Cewch ateb Cymraeg i bob gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg ac ni fydd yn arwain i
unrhyw oedi. Mae data personol sy'n cael ei brosesu gan y cyngor yn cael
ei wneud yn unol â'r gofynion sydd arnom ni o dan y Rheoliad Diogelu Data
Cyffredinol (RhDDC) (UE) 2016/679. Am fwy o wybodaeth ar sut yr ydym yn
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Dear FOI,

my name is not adam dont you read requests ?

Yours sincerely,

Andrew Peacher

TCBC, FOI, Torfaen County Borough Council

1 Atodiad

Dear Mr Peacher

 

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST

 

Thank you for your email dated 22/10/2018 requesting information under the
Freedom of Information Act 2000. I am now in a position to respond to your
questions as follows:

 

1) Are Service Users clients customers the general public allowed to
audio-visually record meeting and calls with your staff? If so, do they
require permission or are they permitted to do so covertly? For eg with
staff social workers police etc.

 

The only information held by the Council in relation to the above question
has already been provided in the response to the Council reference 18/853
see explanation below.

 

2) Do you have any guidance or policy for the public or service users to
record calls when they speak to your staff

As per question 1

 

3) What is your organisations protocol understanding on using the
Dransfield vexastious ruling and how many times has it been used have any
one said the ruling or your reply was not fair how many people got a
appeal overturned in their favour when dransfield was used incorrectly.

 

The council does not hold any information in relation to this request.

 

4) Do you Inform Users they can record. If the answer is no what is the
reason for this please if so do send me a copy.

As per question 1

 

5) Are service users made aware of their right to record the encounter, if
they choose to do so? Is this reflected in you policy document on the
matter?

The Council does not hold any information in relation to this question.

 

6) Does your organisation have an “Unacceptable Behaviour” policy? If so,
please can you provide me with a copy? Regarding court staff the public or
the court itself.

As per question 1

 

 

7) If such a policy contains points of objectionable behaviour such as
telephones calls being recorded by the caller due to them being not
necessary or unwanted or needed, and furthermore the staff members may
feel threatened or apprehensive, are you aware that denying users the
right to record calls goes against the current UK laws.

As per question 1

 

8) Are your policies and procedures compliant with the public right to
audio-visually record encounters with your staff, without their consent?
If not, will you provide appropriate training for your staff so they are
fully informed of the Public right to record? If so what law guides you a
link or copy please.

The council does not hold any information in relation to this request.

 

9) What is our organisations current charging policy for Freedom of
Information requests (FOI) or Subject Access Requests (SAR)? If charges
are applied are concessions available for those on low income or students?

As per question 1

 

10) What is your organisations complaints policy? Please can you forward
me a copy? Does your complaints procedure permit service users evidence
such as covert call recordings to form part of the investigation?

 

In response to questions 1,2,4,6,7,9,10

 

Under Section 14(2) of the Act, a public authority does not have to comply
with a request which is identical, or substantially similar to a previous
request submitted by the same individual, unless a reasonable period has
elapsed between those requests. There is no public interest test. Whilst
the previous request was not submitted in your name, a search of the
website has shown that you are connected with the organisation who
submitted the previous request.

 

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response to an earlier FOIA request; or
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conditions applies then the public authority must deal with the
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matches that of a previous request.

 

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Yours sincerely

 

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weithredu. Os derbyniwch yr e-bost yma fel camgymeriad, gadewch i ni wybod
ar unwaith drwy ffonio ++44 (0) 1495 766366, a danfonwch yr e-bost yn ol
gydag unrhyw atodiadau. RHYBUDD: Gwnewch yn siwr bod gennych ddiogelwch
feirws digonol cyn agor neu ddatgysylltu unrhyw ddogfen sydd yn atodiad
i'r e-bost hwn. Mae’r Cyngor yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg a Saesneg.
Cewch ateb Cymraeg i bob gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg ac ni fydd yn arwain i
unrhyw oedi. Mae data personol sy'n cael ei brosesu gan y cyngor yn cael
ei wneud yn unol â'r gofynion sydd arnom ni o dan y Rheoliad Diogelu Data
Cyffredinol (RhDDC) (UE) 2016/679. Am fwy o wybodaeth ar sut yr ydym yn
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