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Data retention of liability orders

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Dear Her Majesty's Courts and Tribunals Service,

dear sirs

under general correspondance in the public interest could you please answer

are liability orders or summary details ever archived in case they are required after a disposal date .who would archive them ?

at the very least i believe a number and a amount should be archived somewhere can you confirm this please

in the circumstances of a extension of the limitation act on any extendable circumstances can the date and summary of a liability order number be retrieved from anywhere.the date of and summary of the liability order required is 2010

thank you

Yours faithfully,

claire moore

Disclosure Team, Gwasanaeth Llysoedd a Thribiwnlysoedd EM

Thank you for your e-mail, I am writing to advise you that your enquiry does not fall under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA) regime and has been rejected by the Disclosure Team.

It may be helpful if I explain that the FOIA gives individuals and organisations the right of access to all types of recorded information held, at the time the request is received, by public authorities such as the Ministry of Justice (MoJ). Section 84 of the FOIA states that in order for a request for information to be handled as a FOI request, it must be for recorded information.

For example, a FOI request would be for a copy of a policy, rather than an explanation as to why we have that policy in place. On occasion, the MoJ receives requests that do not ask for recorded information, but ask more general questions about, for example, a policy, opinion or a decision.

You may wish to re-submit your enquiry to the Ministry of Justice, which will be treated as Official Correspondence. Our contact details are as follows:

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If you do have any questions relating specifically to the FOIA or Data Protection Act (DPA), please contact the Disclosure Team at the following e-mail address: [HMCTS request email]

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The Disclosure Team

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Gadawodd BERT GEISHERD anodiad ()

Please have a look at my requests on this subject to HMCTS- a very obstructive institution.
CT Liability Orders are orders of the court and as such have to be retained as part of the Register of the Court as each one is an "adjudication of the court" and must be recorded on the Register.
Magistrates courts are notoriously reluctant to admit they hold the materials and almost invariably try to bounce the inquirer into going to the local council that obtained the Liability Order. (And there is a distinct lack of probity in "Liability Orders" printed off by local councils- it is becoming more of a problem when councils obtain a LO against Mr X (usually a tenant) and then believe this gives them the power to substitute another name- an order is against a person (or company) that must be notified and given a chance to defend the application- it is not interchangeable and "fill in the blank" In this country Lettres de Cachet or NN (Non Nominatur) warrants have always,always,always been unlawful. If in doubt about a CT LO, ALWAYS,ALWAYS ALWAYS check against the Court Register
Nowadays. local councils hand in copies of the lists for which they are trying to get orders. Of course, some of these print-out lists will be wrong-and CT payers/debtors/ alleged debtors turn up and the application is withdrawn. Both copies of the folders are annotated and each alteration initialed or signed on both copies. The Magistrates sign off BOTH copies of the handed-in lists. One is returned to the local council, the other is retained-physically- by the court.
Each Mags. Court should hold a run of these folders from each local council that comes within its jurisdiction. They are usually held on the court premises.
As part of the Register, these records have to be preserved perpetually under the provisions of the various public records acts.
Any adjudication of a Mags. Ct. can be obtained by ordering a copy of an entry on the Register (Magistrates Courts Rules 1981- the court will usually flim-flam to put you off). The current fee is £10. Please note that "adjudication" includes CT orders even though they are civil and not criminal. Also note that "adjudication" includes the record of the application for CT LO being refused,amended or withdrawn-it's what the court decides that MUST be recorded on the Register

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