Data on admissions - Scottish and A-level qualifications - 2016/17 and 2017/18

Gwrthodwyd y cais gan University of Edinburgh.

John Dimitroulopoulos

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am requesting data in relation to all of the Group M (undergraduate law) courses offered by your university. For avoidance of doubt, this includes the Scots Law LLB, any Common or Dual-Qualifying degrees, and any Law with a Year Abroad/ Law with a Language/ Joint Honours Law programmes.

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Please provide the following data in relation to these courses for the 2016/17 and 2017/18 UCAS admissions cycles:

1. The offer rate for applicants who were domiciled in Scotland;
2. The offer rate for applicants who were domiciled in the rest of the UK (‘rUK’);
3. The offer rate for applicants who were domiciled in the rest of the EU (‘rEU’);
4. The offer rate for international/non-EU applicants.

5. The percentage of students who had enrolled on one of these courses having sat Scottish qualifications. For example, if 10 people enrolled in one year, and 6 had sat Scottish qualifications, the percentage would be 60%;
6. The percentage of students who had enrolled on one of these courses having sat A-levels.

7. The average entry tariff for students who enrolled at the university who had sat Scottish qualifications. For example, a student who enrolled after achieving AAAAB at Higher level and AB at Advanced Higher level would have a UCAS tariff of 263;
8. The average entry tariff for students who enrolled at the university who had sat A-levels. For example, a student who enrolled after achieving A*AA at A-level would have a UCAS tariff of 152.

Do let me know if any further clarification is required.

Best Regards,
John Dimitroulopoulos

Records Management, University of Edinburgh

Dear Mr Dimitroulopoulos

Thank you for your email of 15 August 2019 requesting admissions statistics for law programmes. I am writing to let you know that we have received your request and will process it as soon as reasonably possible, and within 20 working days of the day we received the request. We will reply by 12 September 2019.

The University of Edinburgh's privacy notice, which describes how we use the information you have supplied about yourself and your request, is available on-line at https://www.ed.ac.uk/records-management/....

Yours sincerely

Rob Don
Information Compliance Officer
Records Management Section
The University of Edinburgh | Old College | South Bridge | Edinburgh | EH8 9YL

Telephone: 0131 651 4099
Email: [University of Edinburgh request email]
Website: http://www.ed.ac.uk/records-management

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Records Management, University of Edinburgh

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Dear Mr Dimitroulopoulos

 

Thank you for your email of 15 August 2019 requesting admissions
statistics for law programmes. Please find our correspondence attached.

 

Yours sincerely

Dean McAdam

Information Compliance Officer

Records Management Section

The University of Edinburgh | Old College | South Bridge | Edinburgh | EH8
9YL

 

Email: [1][University of Edinburgh request email]

 

 

 

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
with registration number SC005336.

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John Dimitroulopoulos

Dear University of Edinburgh,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of University of Edinburgh's handling of my FOI request 'Data on admissions - Scottish and A-level qualifications - 2016/17 and 2017/18'. A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/d....

The data on questions 7 and 8, which related to the entry tariffs of the entrants who held Scottish Higher/Advanced Higher and A-level qualifications, was refused on the following basis:

"Finally, you asked for the average entry tariff of Scottish and UK students. The University
does not use the UCAS tariff in our admissions selection processes, and therefore we do
not hold the information relevant to this part of your request. Our unconditional offers are
made on the basis of individual qualifications already achieved which is more frequently
the case for applicants educated in Scotland. Our conditional offers require the
achievement of specified grades in individual qualifications yet to be achieved, which is
more frequently the case for applicants educated in the rest of the UK. Our selection
processes are described in detail on the University website."

I would like to challenge this finding, and request the data for a second time. This is for three reasons:

1. The data related to students who enrolled in the past two years (2018, 2017). These students may have been issued conditional offers, but details of whether they met these offers, and the grades they achieved, should have been recorded in Edinburgh's system by the relevant results publication day. I must stress that I am not referring to law students who are in the process of enrolling right now in autumn 2019, for whom finalised/comprehensive data may not be available.

2. While the data is not stored by entry tariff in the university's system, the student records for law students who enrolled in the relevant years should no doubt include that student's prior attainment. From that point, it is very straightforward to use the UCAS tariff conversion table (available here: https://www.ucas.com/files/new-tariff-ta...) to calculate a tariff for each candidate, which can then be turned into an average. This was not attempted. I find this odd, given that a) no reason was given for this, and b) every other Scottish institution of which I have requested the same data made an attempt to calculate it.

3. Given that Edinburgh admits around 150 law students a year, the data on tariffs I am requesting only relates to about 300 law students in the relevant two-year period. Even if we assume that the process of finding and converting each student's school grades takes 3 minutes (which is unlikely, given that undergraduates at selective universities such as yours tend to enrol with a narrow possible range of grades that attract similar entry tariffs), the total time taken to process this data would be around 15 hours. Even when combined with the time taken to extract for my other questions, I struggle to see how the cost of processing this request would go above the 18-hour-per-request threshold set by law. Therefore, I see no reason as to why this (renewed) request for the data for questions 7 and 8 should be denied.

I look forward to hearing the outcome of this internal review.

Yours faithfully,

John Dimitroulopoulos

Records Management, University of Edinburgh

Dear Mr Dimitroulopoulos,

Thank you for your email of 13 September 2019 requesting a review of our response to your request about admissions to law programmes. I am writing to let you know that we have received your request for a review and will process it as soon as reasonably possible, and within 20 working days of the day we received the request for review. We will reply by 11 October 2019.

The University of Edinburgh's privacy notice, which describes how we use the information you have supplied about yourself and your request, is available on-line at www.ed.ac.uk/records-management/freedom-....

Yours sincerely

Rob Don
Information Compliance Officer
Records Management Section
The University of Edinburgh | Old College | South Bridge | Edinburgh | EH8 9YL

Telephone: 0131 651 4099
Email: [University of Edinburgh request email]
Website: http://www.ed.ac.uk/records-management

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Records Management, University of Edinburgh

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Dear Mr Dimitroulopoulos

 

Thank you for your email of 13 September 2019 requesting a review of the
University’s handling of your request for the average entry tariff of law
students who had taken Scottish qualifications or A Levels. Please find
our response attached, and please accept our apologies for the delay to
our response to your request.

 

The University of Edinburgh's privacy notice, which describes how we use
the information you have supplied about yourself and your request, is
available on-line at
[1]https://www.ed.ac.uk/records-management/....

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Rob Don

Information Compliance Officer

Records Management Section

The University of Edinburgh | Old College | South Bridge | Edinburgh | EH8
9YL

 

Telephone: 0131 651 4099

Email: [University of Edinburgh request email]

Website: [2]http://www.ed.ac.uk/records-management

 

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
with registration number SC005336.

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