Councils principle source of funding

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Dear City of Edinburgh Council,

The council basically get their money from the government.

Is this source of funding a grant or a loan? by that l mean do the council pay back the government the money that they get?

And can you give me a link to the specific terms and conditions of this funding such as the legislation?

Yours faithfully,

pat kalis

City of Edinburgh Council

Ms Pat Kalis

Our ref: 19147

Dear Ms Kalis

Acknowledgement of Request

Subject: Councils principle source of funding

Thank you for your request for information received on 31/05/2018. I can confirm that your request will be processed under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002, Environmental Information Regulations (Scotland) 2004, or the INSPIRE (Scotland) Regulations 2009.

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Information Governance Unit
Level 2:1, Waverley Court, Edinburgh EH8 8BG Tel 0131 200 2340
[Edinburgh City Council request email] www.edinburgh.gov.uk

City of Edinburgh Council

Ms Pat Kalis

[FOI #488141 email]

Our ref: 19147

Dear Ms Kalis

Request for Clarification

Subject: Council's principle source of funding

Thank you for your request for information of 31/05/2018 in which you asked the following:

The council basically get their money from the government.

Is this source of funding a grant or a loan? by that l mean do the council pay back the government the money that they get?

And can you give me a link to the specific terms and conditions of this funding such as the legislation?

Please see the following links to the budget and finance information which is published on our website.

The budget and finance information can be found at the following link:
http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20200/b...

A full list of fees and charges can be found here:
http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20004/c...

Key facts and figures booklet is a pocket guide to the Council’s budget and key services and can be found here:
http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/fi...

If the information on these pages does not meet your request, please come back to me a request for the specific information you are still seeking.

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Yours sincerely,

Sue Brown
Information Rights Officer

Information Governance Unit
Level 2:1, Waverley Court, Edinburgh EH8 8BG Tel 0131 200 2340
[email address] www.edinburgh.gov.uk

Dear City of Edinburgh Council,

The council will receive a billion pounds for 2018/19.

Now the government grant will come 1st and be paid to the council before the customers pay the council tax and business rates. As you know council tax and business rates are collected in total at the end of the year.

Where and how does the council gain the £600 million plus , due to not receiving this amount of money at the same time as the government grant?

And does this billion pounds include other sources of income such as parking tickets, license fees, renting out council property or land, interest rates on over due debts, and other income the council will no doubt gain throughout the year?

Yours faithfully,

Pat Kalis

Information Rights Officer 2, City of Edinburgh Council

Dear Ms Kalis

Request for Clarification - Receipt

Subject: Council's principle source of funding

Thank you for providing clarification on the above request for information of 31/05/2018. We will respond to your request within 20 working days. Please note that the statutory 20 working day deadline for responding to your request starts upon receipt of clarification. This means we have until 03/07/2018 to respond to your request.

To promote transparency and accountability, please note it is the Council’s policy to publish all request details and responses made under freedom of information legislation. This information will be made available through the Council’s website and will not include your personal details.

Further information about your rights and accessing information is available on our website at: www.edinburgh.gov.uk

Yours sincerely

Sue Brown
Information Rights Officer

Information Governance Unit
Level 2:1, Waverley Court, Edinburgh EH8 8BG Tel 0131 200 2340
[email address] www.edinburgh.gov.uk

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

City of Edinburgh Council

Ms Pat Kalis

[FOI #488141 email]

Our ref: 19147

Dear Ms Kalis

Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 - Release of Information

Subject: Council's principle source of funding

Thank you for your request for information of 31/05/2018 where you asked the following:

The council basically get their money from the government. Is this source of funding a grant or a loan? By that l mean do the council pay back the government the money that they get? And can you give me a link to the specific terms and conditions of this funding such as the legislation?

Following a request for clarification you advised the following:

The council will receive a billion pounds for 2018/19.

Now the government grant will come 1st and be paid to the council before the customers pay the council tax and business rates. As you know council tax and business rates are collected in total at the end of the year.

Your request has been processed and considered under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and the information is provided below.

The Government funding is not all paid in a lump sum at the beginning of the financial year. Instead it is paid in weekly instalments throughout the year.

Council Tax and Non-domestic Rates are also not all paid in a lump sum at the end of the year. Many people pay Council Tax and NDR in instalments over either 10 or 12 months.

Where and how does the council gain the £600 million plus, due to not receiving this amount of money at the same time as the government grant?

Please see explanation above of the timing of income. In addition, the expenditure of the Council is spread throughout the year therefore it is not necessary to have funding for the full year’s expenditure at the start of the financial year.

The Council has a Treasury team which monitors the Council’s cashflow requirements on a daily basis and ensure that there are sufficient funds available to meet the spending requirements.

And does this billion pounds include other sources of income such as parking tickets, license fees, renting out council property or land, interest rates on over due debts, and other income the council will no doubt gain throughout the year?

The Council’s net budget is around £1bn, with the gross budget totalling around £1.5bn. As you mention in your question, the Council also receives income from a variety of other sources which make up the difference between the gross and net budgets. The principal sources of this income are Housing Benefit subsidy, grant funding & other partner contributions and fees and charges (examples of which include parking charges, residential care fees, property rents and licence fees). The resulting c£1bn net budget is funded through Scottish Government grant funding, Non Domestic Rates and Council Tax income.

To promote transparency and accountability, please note it is the Council’s policy to publish all request details and responses made under the freedom of information legislation. This information will be made available through the Council’s website and will not include your personal details. The disclosure log is available at the following link: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/homepage/175...

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Yours sincerely,

Sue Brown
Information Rights Officer

Information Governance Unit
Level 2:1, Waverley Court, Edinburgh EH8 8BG Tel 0131 200 2340
[email address] www.edinburgh.gov.uk

Dear sue brown,

So the council aren't the originator nor the principle source of the funds which means that the council aren't the creditor. The government get the funds from somewhere which doesn't make the government the creditor either as the funds didn't originate from the government.

Yours faithfully,

pat kalis