copies of minutes schools forum and Early Years Team and Finance.

Lorraine Krimou made this Rhyddid Gwybodaeth request to Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council Automatic anti-spam measures are in place for this older request. Please let us know if a further response is expected or if you are having trouble responding.

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Dear Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council,
I would very much appreciate if you could forward to me -with personal data redacted, copies of minutes of meetings and any other pertinent publications that demonstrate how it was decided that the TPPG allocation to the Early Years Budget would be disseminated via a two tier supplementary EYE funding system for the Local PVI sector of Childcare, whereby, the majority of Wirral's PVI will now be at a distinct financial disadvantage as a result of this decision.
I have previously been in contact with the Director of Education about this issue and presented this question at a meeting of The Children, Young People and Education Committee. The responses received to date have not been clear nor explanatory. At the committee meeting, The Chair responded that this two tier approach had been agreed at Schools Forum and ratified at a full Council meeting, However, I have not been able to find any publications that support the response from the Chair of CYPEC.
The agendas and minutes of the last two School Forums meetings have not had the topic of TPPG and having watched the recordings of the meetings neither , to the best of my knowledge, has there been any verbal discussion of creating a two tier system.
Yours faithfully,
Lorraine Krimou

InfoMgr, FinDMT, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

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Dear Ms Krimou

 

Thank you for your recent FOI enquiry in which you asked:

 

“I would very much appreciate if you could forward to me  -with personal
data redacted,  copies of minutes of meetings  and any other pertinent
publications  that demonstrate how it was decided that the TPPG allocation
to the Early Years Budget would be disseminated via a two tier
supplementary EYE funding system for the Local PVI sector of Childcare,
whereby, the majority of Wirral's PVI will now be at a distinct financial
disadvantage as a result of this decision.”

 

In response we can advise that the Government informed all Local
Authorities in mid-December that the Teacher Pay and Pensions Grant (TPPG)
would be included in the early years funding block. The consultation,
which took place in February 2023, was open to all relevant parties and
the proposal for the distribution of TPPG was one of the items.

 

The School Forum Early Years sub-group discussed the Teacher Pay and
Pension Grant (TPPG) in meetings held on 10 March 2023 and 26 May 2023.
Please see attached minutes, which have been redacted under Section 40(2)
of the Freedom of Information Act 2000, to remove third party personal
data. Budgets are then discussed in School Forum as a whole, not
individually, as it is assumed the sub-group has had the discussions prior
to the school forum.

 

Wirral’s decision on how to distribute the TPPG element of EY funding in
2023-24 is based on the Early Years Operational Guide, the link to the
document and extract as below:

[1]https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...

 

Section 5.1 under Quality (Page 13-14) states:

 

“We also encourage local authorities to use the quality supplement to
distribute the additional funding they will receive because of the
mainstreaming of the teachers’ pay and pensions grants. From 2023 to 2024
, the separate teachers’ pay grant and teachers’ pensions employer
contribution grant are no longer being paid directly to school-based
nurseries, and instead this funding has been rolled into the overall
quantum of 3- and 4-year-old entitlement funding [footnote 1] Local
authorities’ indicative 2022 to 2023 teachers’ pay and pensions grants
funding has been included within the baseline against which we applied
protections to the EYNFF hourly rates for 2023 to 2024, to limit year to
year changes in overall funding levels. Nonetheless, for local
authorities, the amount of funding that has been rolled in may be higher,
or lower, than the amount their school-based nurseries previously received
through the grants, given the distribution is now through the EYNFF.

 

As with all other supplements, it is for local authorities to determine
the appropriate metric for allocating funding, if their approach is in
line with the principles set out above. However, we would encourage local
authorities to consider the purpose for which the grants were originally
introduced when designing their approach. They could continue to target
the funding to take account of additional pressures that some providers
might face, from, for example, the need to pay employer contributions to
the teachers’ pension scheme.”

 

We trust this answers your enquiry.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Lynette Paterson

Principal Information Management Officer

Resources – Digital and Improvement

Wirral Council

PO Box 290
Brighton Street
Wallasey
CH27 9FQ

 

Email: [2][Wirral Borough Council request email]

 

Visit our website: [3]www.wirral.gov.uk

 

 

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Dear Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council's handling of my FOI request 'copies of minutes schools forum and Early Years Team and Finance.'.

[ The information I have received are minutes from the Early Years SUB committee meetings. My understanding of a sub committee and particularly the Early Years Sub Committee - is to feed back to the full School Forum for discussion and approval before being presented and ratified by full Council. Minutes from School Forum meetings do not make any reference to this item either in the Agenda or Minutes of the last two meetings. Further at the EY sub committee meeting it was disclosed that as the consultation process was hurriedly undertaken, a further decision was taken to weight the responses from schools as the amount of these responses were less than PVI responses. This resulted in the creation of a two tier funding system that puts the PVI at a distinct financial disadvantage for provision of exactly the same services to local children and their families.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...

Yours faithfully,

Lorraine Krimou

InfoMgr, FinDMT, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

Dear Ms Krimou

 

We write further to your email of 9 August 2023.

 

It is unclear from your correspondence what the basis of your internal
review request is.  We have provided you with all recorded information in
relation to your original request.

 

School forum minutes are published online at
[1]https://democracy.wirral.gov.uk/ieListMe... and
we have provided copies of the sub-group minutes. We do not hold any
further minutes were PRRG was discussed.

 

If you dispute the Council's handling of your request, please provide a
clear narrative as to what additional recorded information you seek and we
will be happy to assist if possible.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Lynette Paterson

Principal Information Management Officer

Resources – Digital and Improvement

Wirral Council

PO Box 290
Brighton Street
Wallasey
CH27 9FQ

 

Email: [2][Wirral Borough Council request email]

 

Visit our website: [3]www.wirral.gov.uk

 

 

 

 

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Dear InfoMgr, FinDMT,
I am asking for recorded minutes where the decisions regarding the creation of a two tier system of TPPG was discussed and passed by the School Forum in order for Council to ratify the decision. I have been informed that this is the protocol / procedure i.e., that funding affecting The Early Years Sector is discussed at the Early Years sub group to be taken to the Full Forum meeting to be discussed and finalised before presenting to Full Council.
If my information is incorrect and this is not the due procedure and the Early Years Team and Finance can make financial decisions independent of consultation with the Schools Forum, then can it be explained why - if they did not intend to take the sector's view into consideration - the Early Years Team sent out a questionnaire to all Early Years Settings earlier in the year requesting their time to indicate their preference for how the funding was to be distributed between Schools and Early Years settings.
Regards
Lorraine Krimou

Yours sincerely,

Lorraine Krimou

InfoMgr, FinDMT, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

Dear Ms Krimou

 

Thank you for your email of 4 September 2023 in which you provided further
clarification regarding your request; however, all meeting minutes held
have already been sent via attachments or through links to the relevant
website pages. No further minutes are held by the Council.

 

The minutes provided are simply a summary of discussions during each
individual meeting. It is not possible for minutes to reflect verbatim
what has been said only the saliant points are captured. Every viewpoint
shared within the consultation was considered, and while we respect the
diversity of opinion within the sector, it is important to acknowledge
that we may not be able to satisfy everyone with the final decision. The
aim is always to make a decision that is as fair as possible to all types
of providers.

 

We hope this provides you with sufficient clarity regarding the points in
your previous email.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Lynette Paterson

Principal Information Management Officer

Resources – Digital and Improvement

Wirral Council

PO Box 290
Brighton Street
Wallasey
CH27 9FQ

 

Email: [1][Wirral Borough Council request email]

 

Visit our website: [2]www.wirral.gov.uk

 

 

 

 

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