Communications between Managing Director of Surface Transport and UK bus manufacturers
Dear TfL (Freedom of information)
Can I request to see communications between Managing Director of Surface Transport Leon Daniels and British bus manufacturers Alexander Dennis & Wrightbus from early 2014 to late 2017.
Yours sincerely
Larry Bryant
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Dear Mr Bryant
Our Ref: FOI-2189-2021
Thank you for your request received on 29 January 2021 asking for
correspondence between the Managing Director of Surface Transport and UK
bus manufacturers.
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Dear Gemma Jacob
TfL ref: FOI-2189-2021
The timeframe for my request starts from 1 January 2014 to 31 December 2017.
Yours sincerely
Larry Bryant
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Dear Mr Bryant
Our Ref: FOI-2189-2021
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Dear Mr Bryant
Our Ref: FOI-2189-2021
Thank you for your request asking for correspondence between the Managing
Director of Surface Transport and UK bus manufacturers.
Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of
the Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy. I can
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Our view is that all three of these examples apply in this instance.
We consider that providing the requested information would place an
unreasonable burden on us as it would be necessary to review all of the
requested information in significant detail to ascertain whether an
exemption might apply to any of the information contained within the
correspondence. Given the volume of information caught by your
non-specific request, the process of reviewing and redacting the
information would be disproportionate to the benefit of providing it.
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Yours sincerely
Gemma Jacob
Senior FOI Case Officer
FOI Case Management Team
General Counsel
Transport for London
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