Childless tax credit claimants refused automatic backdating because they may abuse the system.

M Boyce made this Rhyddid Gwybodaeth request to Cyllid a Thollau Ei Mawrhydi

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Dear HM Revenue and Customs,

The Head of the Tax Credits Policy Team at HMRC has informed me in writing of the following:

'The backdating provision is subject to the claimant meeting all the conditions for entitlement throughout the period starting 31 days before the relevant date [date claim forms are received in an appropriate office]. In applying regulation 7 [of the Tax Credits ( Claims and Notifications ) Regulations 2002] it follows that HMRC must be satisfied that the claimant had tax credits entitlement at the earlier date and throughout the backdating period.'
'The information entered at question 4.4 of the claim form is not used by the tax credits IT system to automatically backdate the claim. This has been a feature of the design of the system since it was introduced in April 2003. ...had the system been designed to allow all claims to be automatically backdated using the date entered by the claimant, the system would have been open to abuse.'
'WTC claimants with children are not asked to separately request backdating because the system has been designed to apply backdating by reference to either the date the claimant became responsible for the child or the child's date of birth. On receipt of a claim for both WTC and Child Tax Credit the tax credits system performs a series of checks on all claims and where certain risk criteria applies, claims will be referred to the backdating team for further consideration.'
All this fully implies that ALL claimants without children cannot necessarily be trusted to give accurate and truthful information on their claim forms ( because they have to duplicate the claim form information to request backdating), whereas MOST claimants with children necessarily can be trusted not to abuse the system ( because they don't have to ask for backdating). This is breathtakingly unfair. Just because this system was designed and implemented in 2003 should not mean that it should also be set in stone and not subject to fair revision. I was later informed on the phone that it would be too expensive to amend the claim forms to make them fairer for all claimants. This system of iniquity has been in place now for over twelve years.
If ALL claims go through a series of checks then I fail to understand why those claimants without children then also have to request backdating (duplicate information on the form) to prove that they are not abusing the system.
(1) Please provide recorded information that details the series of checks that are performed on ALL claims to try to prevent abuse of the backdating process.

Yours faithfully,

M Boyce

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Yours faithfully,

M Boyce

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M Boyce,

Please find attached our reply to your FOI request.

Phil.

Phil Hogan
HMRC
Benefits & Credits
Room 1C/13 | 100 Parliament Street | London SW1A 2BQ

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Dear HM Revenue and Customs,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of HM Revenue and Customs's handling of my FOI request 'Childless tax credit claimants refused automatic backdating because they may abuse the system.'.

You are being deliberately evasive as usual.
Internal request please, and then off to the ICO we go...again.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...

Yours faithfully,

M Boyce

Cyllid a Thollau Ei Mawrhydi

Thank you for your correspondence requesting an internal review of a request made to HMRC under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (reference FOI 2719/15).

A review will be carried out and we expect to provide the review response by 12 November 2015.

Thank you

HMRC Freedom of Information Act Team
Central Policy - Information Policy & Disclosure Team (IPD)
Room 1C/23
100 Parliament Street
London

Fax: 03000 586 902

[email address]

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Dear HM Revenue and Customs,

Same old, same old. Good old HMRC. You again promise to reply by a certain date (12 November) and then you don't bother. You have never ever replied when you say you will. I always have to send countless chase-up emails.
This will also be going off to the Adjudicator's Office.
You lot really are a very, very bad joke.

Yours faithfully,

M Boyce

Dear HM Revenue and Customs,

If you have not replied by Wednesday 18 November 2015 I will definitely be writing to the Adjudicator's Office.

Yours faithfully,

M Boyce

Cyllid a Thollau Ei Mawrhydi

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Dear M Boyce

Please find attached HMRC's review of the handling of your FOI request, with apologies for the delay.

Yours sincerely

Teresa Chance | HMRC Freedom of Information Team | Rm 1C/23 100 Parliament Street | London | SW1A 2BQ | Tel: 03000 586419

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