Dear Cardiff University,

Could I request the admissions statistics for graduate applicants to your A100 MBCHB from the last 3 application cycles: 18/19, 19/20, 20/21. Specifically...

1. The number of graduate applications
2. The number of graduates given interviews
3. The number of final offers made to graduate applicants
4. Minimum UCAT score for a graduate with a 1:1 Honours degree that was subsequently invited to interview
5. Do graduates compete for the same places as school leavers or are a set number of places reserved for graduates?
6. The number of places reserved on A100 for graduates (if any)
7. How does a graduates degree/A levels compare to a school leavers GCSE/ A levels during the application process?
8. How is a graduate applicant scored during the application process. I can see a degree can total up to 27 points, but it isn't clear on what academics a graduate is scored on.
Yours faithfully,

Will Rob

InfoRequest, Cardiff University

Dear Will Rob,
I acknowledge receipt of your email received by this office on 20th of September 2022.
Your request will now be dealt with under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and has been allocated reference FOI22-325 which should be quoted in all correspondence. We will respond to your request within 20 working days starting the next working day after receipt, therefore you can expect to receive a response no later than 18th of October 2022.
In some circumstances a fee may be payable and, if that is the case, we will let you know. A fees notice will be issued to you, and you will be required to pay before we will proceed to deal with your request.
Yours sincerely

Swyddfa Ysgrifenydd y Brifysgol
Prifysgol Caerdydd
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Cardiff University
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InfoRequest, Cardiff University

Dear Will Rob

 

I am writing in response to your Freedom of Information request dated
21^st September 2022. 

 

For ease of reference, I have reproduced your questions below and set out
our corresponding responses.

 

Could I request the admissions statistics for graduate applicants to your
A100 MBCHB from the last 3 application cycles: 18/19, 19/20, 20/21.
Specifically...

 

1. The number of graduate applications

2. The number of graduates given interviews

3. The number of final offers made to graduate applicants

4. Minimum UCAT score for a graduate with a 1:1 Honours degree that was
subsequently invited to interview

Information about an applicant’s graduate status is held in individual
students’ records, the time involved in searching for and providing the
information you have requested would exceed the time limit (18 hours)
allowed under the Freedom of Information and Data Protection (Appropriate
Limit and Fees) Regulations 2004.  Accordingly, section 12(2) of the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 will apply.

5. Do graduates compete for the same places as school leavers or are a set
number of places reserved for graduates?

 

We do not have a specific quota for graduate applicants.

 

 

6. The number of places reserved on A100 for graduates (if any)

 

N/A

 

7. How does a graduates degree/A levels compare to a school leavers GCSE/
A levels during the application process?

 

Please refer to our policy which details our selection process:

[1]https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/__data/assets/...

 

8. How is a graduate applicant scored during the application process. I
can see a degree can total up to 27 points, but it isn't clear on what
academics a graduate is scored on.

 

Please refer to our policy which details our selection process:

[2]https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/__data/assets/...

 

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Yours sincerely

 

 

 

 

Swyddfa Ysgrifenydd y Brifysgol University Secretary’s Office

Prifysgol Caerdydd Cardiff University

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Dear InfoRequest,

Thanks, I appreciate you cannot get info for qs 1-4. I am still unclear on your answers for questions 7 and 8.
It states in your selection process that the top 9 GCSEs are scored and applicants are ranked. I want to know whether GCSEs and A levels are still scored as a graduate, or only the degree classification. It is confusing as it says the maximum points a graduate can achieve are 27, but surely someone who has completed A levels could theoretically score more than 27 points without the degree? Would that mean if graduates and school-leavers are scored together, a graduate can potentially score a higher potential number of points due to having a degree?

For instance, would my academics I have put below give me a score of 27 (only degree scored), or would i score 44 points including everything? Would a first class degree give 27 points?

Academics:
Degree- 1st class (27 points)
A levels - A*BB (3 points)
GCSEs - 5A 4B (includes required GCSEs) (14)

Yours sincerely,

Will Rob

InfoRequest, Cardiff University

Dear Will Rob,

 

Thanks for your email. It is not with the remit of this team to provide
application advice and guidance to a potential a student.

 

In this instance, we suggest you contact the School of Medicine directly
[1][email address] who may be able to assist in providing advice
tailored to your personal circumstances and academic achievements.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

 

Swyddfa Ysgrifenydd y Brifysgol University Secretary’s Office

Prifysgol Caerdydd Cardiff University

Ebost : [2][email address] Email: [3][email address] 
 
 
 
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Dear InfoRequest,
Ok. I understand you cannot comment on applicants individually, but please could you answer my query regarding the questions generally, as I still am not clear on how graduates are scored. I'd be happy to send an email but i am unable to see the email as the website blocks them.

Yours sincerely,

Will Rob

InfoRequest, Cardiff University

Dear Will Rob,

 

We will refer your question to the Medical School and advise you or their
response once received.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Swyddfa Ysgrifenydd y Brifysgol University Secretary’s Office

Prifysgol Caerdydd Cardiff University

Ebost : [1][email address] Email: [2][email address] 
 
 
 
The University welcomes
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gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg neu'n Saesneg.  Corresponding in Welsh will not lead
Ni fydd gohebu yn Gymraeg yn creu to any delay.
unrhwy oedi.

 

 

 

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

InfoRequest, Cardiff University

Dear Will Rob,

 

In response to your below enquiry the School of Medicine has provided the
additional information:

 

“The maximum score any applicant could have achieved previously would have
been 27, although a true score may have been higher all scores were capped
at 27. 

 

If an applicant met the minimum GCSE and A Levels and was working towards
a degree or had achieved a degree they would have automatically been given
the top score of 27 points and would have been in competition with all
other applicants with that score as we do not have a specific graduate
quota.”

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Swyddfa Ysgrifenydd y Brifysgol University Secretary’s Office

Prifysgol Caerdydd Cardiff University

Ebost : [1][email address] Email: [2][email address] 
 
 
 
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Ni fydd gohebu yn Gymraeg yn creu to any delay.
unrhwy oedi.

 

 

 

From: InfoRequest
Sent: 26 September 2022 11:47
To: Will Rob <[FOI #900240 email]>
Subject: RE: FOI22-325 A100 Admissions Graduate Applications 2018-2021

 

Dear Will Rob,

 

We will refer your question to the Medical School and advise you or their
response once received.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Swyddfa Ysgrifenydd y Brifysgol University Secretary’s Office

Prifysgol Caerdydd Cardiff University

Ebost : [3][email address] Email: [4][email address] 
 
 
 
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unrhwy oedi.

 

 

 

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Dear InfoRequest,
Thank you for the response. So are you saying that an individual who has not yet completed a degree (e.g. predicted a 2:1) will score the same as an individual who has already achieved a 1st class? Both will score 27 points?
I'm guessing graduates are scored separately from school leavers as someone who has only achieved GCSEs and A levels could score higher than 27?
Finally, once interview is reached, are offers made purely by interview score?

Yours sincerely,

Will Rob

InfoRequest, Cardiff University

Dear Will,

 

Thank you for your email.

 

Please contact the Medical School with your follow up questions around the
application and admissions process, or if you require clarity or further
advice on the information provided.

 

The School can be contacted at: [1][email address]

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

 

Swyddfa Ysgrifenydd y Brifysgol University Secretary’s Office

Prifysgol Caerdydd Cardiff University

Ebost : [2][email address] Email: [3][email address] 
 
 
 
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Ni fydd gohebu yn Gymraeg yn creu to any delay.
unrhwy oedi.

 

 

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Dear InfoRequest,

I cannot see the email you have sent me as this website blocks email addresses. Could you send me to a website the email is on?

Yours sincerely,

Will Rob

InfoRequest, Cardiff University

Dear Will Rob,

The email address can be found on this webpage:

https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/study/undergra...

Yours sincerely,

Swyddfa Ysgrifenydd y Brifysgol
Prifysgol Caerdydd
Ebost : [email address]  

Mae'r Brifysgol yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg neu'n Saesneg.  Ni fydd gohebu yn Gymraeg yn creu unrhwy oedi.
University Secretary's Office
Cardiff University
Email: [email address] 

The University welcomes correspondence in Welsh or English.  Corresponding in Welsh will not lead to any delay.

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir