Minutes of Cycle Safety Working Group
Meeting date
16/06/2010
Location TfL,
Palestra
Attendance
Name
Organisation
Ben
Plowden
TfL,
Director
BRaP
(Chair)
Cynthia
Barlow
RoadPeace
Bob Davis
BCOG
Alistair
Hanton
LCC
Dominic
Curran
London
Councils
Duncan
Pickering
Institute
of
Advanced
Motorists
David
Snelling MPS
Roger
Geffen CTC
Gordon
Telling
FTA
Steve
Walker
LOTAG
representative
Tom Bogdanowicz
LCC
Erica
Blennerhassett GLA
Lilli Matson
TfL, Head of Modal Policy
Steve
Steele
TfL,
Freight Behavioural Change Team
Alexandra
Goodship TfL, Policy Manager - Cycling
Jen Calvert
TfL, Senior Policy Officer – Cycling
Siwan
Hayward
TfL,
CSEP
Chris
Mather
TfL,
Campaigns
Programme
Manager
Apologies
Matthew Collins
City of London
Ruth
Bradshaw
London
Councils
Carl
Pittam
Sustrans
Charlie
Lloyd
LCC
Kim
Botting
MPS
Ian
Wainwright
TfL,
Senior Policy Officer - Freight
Becky
Upfold
GLA
CC minutes:
Nancy Ryder – Press Officer, TfL
John Devonport – Modal Policy, TfL
Attachments:
• TfL Presentation – CSAP progress
• Cycle
Superhighways
Presentation
• TfL/FTA MOU on Cycling
• CSAP Progress Form
• Trixi mirror trial – monitoring information as requested
Item
Description
Action
1. Admin
1.1
Agree agenda
Request that future meetings will have updates from the group All
circulated in advance. Time will then be provided at the
meeting for group members to ask questions and make
contributions.
There was some concern that the minutes of the last meeting
JC
had not fully captured the nature of the discussion or the
extent of disagreement on some issues. Members of the group
asked that the minutes capture the discussion in future. This
was agreed.
The group agreed that the CSWG meetings are the strategic
JC
lead in terms of cycle safety. The detailed plans behind the
actions need to be discussed at sub groups and/or offline and
brought back to the main meeting. Sub-groups to be set up
where they do not yet exist.
Some Sub Working Groups already exist and contribute to the
ALL
Cycle Safety Action Plan (see at bottom of minutes). These
will report regularly to the main Group. Further working groups
will be set up as the work of the main Group dictates.
A CSAP Progress Form will be sent in advance of CSWG
JC
meeting to capture updates from all group members. This
ALL
should be sent back one week before the meeting takes place
to allow wider circulation. The expectation of the Group is that
updates will be read before the meeting and the meeting time
can therefore be better spent on agreeing next steps and
action.
Concerns were raised by BD and CB with regards to the HGV
and cycling research which was presented at the last meeting.
The issue was that it didn’t give enough responsibility to the
drivers (as well as cyclists) on mitigation of the blind spots.
JC updated the group that she had met with the LCC (Charlie
Lloyd and Alastair Hanton) on this specific issue and CL had
agreed to provide a paper outlining the issues and suggest a
way forward. This would include advice and training which
could be given to drivers.
CL to provide this paper to JC in advance of next meeting so
CL, JC
that it can be circulated to all CSWG members.
1.2
Minutes and actions from previous meetings
All actions completed from last meeting.
2 CSAP
updates
2.1
CSAP: Overview of progress to date
Alexandra Goodship gave a presentation on the progress of
the implementation of the CSAP (attached to minutes).
Opportunity for group to comment and feedback on the FORS
ALL
online driver training (details within presentation).
BD suggested that the content of cycle training needed to be
reviewed:
1. Identify inconsistencies in the training provided in
London which may need to be addressed e.g. road
positioning.
2. Agree what additional guidance may need to be
provided for London in reference to causal factors in
CSAP.
3. Identify any gaps in knowledge to help with point (1)
and (2).
BD to work with BCOG members to obtain this information and
to provide a summary to the next meeting if possible.
CB mentioned writing to the FTA (Natalie Chapman) to ask
CB
what safety devices they support. The response was that the
FTA does not support any devices which are not mandatory.
CB agreed to forward on the email to Gordon Telling so that
the Group could get a clearer response which may contribute
to CSAP action 3.6.11.
BD asked that Cowlings are still considered although not yet
BD
something which is manufactured. BD to speak to FTA about
how to take this forward.
LM mentioned that TfL are still waiting for DfT to release
LM
research on motion sensors and will be meeting with DfT next
week to discuss this. This should help to contribute to CSAP
action 3.6.12. LM will report back on the outcome of the DfT
meeting at next meeting of CSWG.
2.2
Behaviour and enforcement update (CSAP action 3.4.1)
SH gave an update on the step up in enforcement which is
planned to deal with anti-social and dangerous road user
behaviour. She outlined the action the MPS will be taking to
target all road users who are found to be: ignoring red lights,
using mobile phones, cycling on pavements and so on. There
was some discussion about whether the message should
more explicitly focus on the safety benefits of adhering to the
rules of the road. SH explained that the first aim of the
campaign should be to highlight the need for ‘responsible’
road use, as part of the Share the Road message, but agreed
there will be secondary safety benefits.
There will be a media release on this work in Bike Week on
the 24th June
SH asked the group to think about how we can help to get
ALL
positive coverage though each organisations’ channels
2.3
Criminal justice research update (CSAP Action 3.4.2)
1 CSAP 3.6.1: Work with the Freight industry as a matter of urgency to identify the most appropriate and cost
effective safety device for large goods vehicles.
2 As above.
SH: Research project is progressing and a working group has
been set up. Useful update from CB, CL and AH which has
been considered in the scope of the project. Project due by
December with an update provided at the October CSWG
meeting.
Once the project scope has been signed off this will be shared SH
with the group.
RG asked that SMIDSY reporting and website details on
SH
where that goes in terms of the legal system is reported back
to the group and considered within this project.
2.4
Update from CSWG members
DS gave an update on the work the MPS are doing on
enforcement and cycle safety:
• Considering publicity DVD on cycle safety.
• Academic research into HGV and cyclists behaviour,
specifically looking at women and the disproportionate
fatalities with HGVs.
• Working with Gordon at the FTA to look at changes to
the Highway Code and consulting with the CSWG.
• Roadsafe website and videos being provided to help
identify problem locations and dangerous driving.
• Working with the City of London to look at ASLs
enforcement.
• Increased enforcement on the CSH.
• Rider diversion scheme – offering a course rather than
a Fixed Penalty Notice (FPN).
BD asked about who had been consulted on the DVD and DS
responded that Charlie Lloyd at LCC had been consulted.
BD asked whether the results from the research into a cycle
safety code from TfL will be fed into the MPS DVD. DS replied
that only the information available now can be considered
CB said that the cycle training for freight drivers is something
JC
which some of the boroughs are doing and should be rolled
out further. JC to investigate further as part of her work on
cycle training.
3.
Items for discussion
3.1
FTA/TfL MOU of cycling and update from FTA (CSAP
Action 3.7.4)
GT provided an update on the FTA/TfL Memorandum of
Understanding on cycling. Purpose of the memorandum to
reduce the potential for conflict between cyclists and goods
vehicles and aim to reduce the number of deliveries at peak
hours. Includes offering alternatives to certain deliveries and
reviewing problematic loading activity. It also includes
looking at the effectiveness of mirrors.
MOU launching in w/c 5th July. GT has set up a Freight
Operator Working Group to discuss how the MOU will work in
detail. Metrics will include 0% culture for collisions.
AH asked whether CSAP actions 3.6.1, 3.9.2 and 3.9.53 will be
addressed within the MOU and the working Group.
GT agreed that it would be useful to speak further with the
GT
cycling groups about how to take the MOU forward, which
would include the actions the FTA are responsible for in the
CSAP.
MOU to be sent to the group with the minutes.
JC
GT to provide JC with examples of how the MOU will work in
GT
practice so that this can be used for PR and launch
information.
3.2
Letter for bereaved families
CB agreed to take this forward outside the meeting with Dave
Snelling and will report back at the next meeting.
CB
3.3
HGV/Cycling marketing update
CM gave an update on the Cycle Safety Marketing campaign.
The HGV/cyclists campaign to launch on 5th July. Key strap
line of the campaign ‘undertaking lorries on the nearside can
be fatal’ which has been user tested and highlights lorry blind
spots (something which earlier research picked up as cyclists
needing to know). Campaign to be in Central London as
adverts, on bike hangers and as a viral campaign.
Addressing cyclists is one part of the wider campaign
addressing all road users. A complementary piece of work
aimed at the Freight drivers will also be taken forward.
CM agreed to circulate the visual for the campaign to CSWG
CM
members at a later date before the launch.
3.4
Cycle Superhighways
RS gave an update on Cycle Superhighways. Presentation
attached with minutes.
RD asked RS what monitoring will be done on the CSH with
regards to the Trixi mirrors. Details of this have been sent with
JC
the minutes.
RS reminded all members they are invited to attend the launch
on Clapham Common, 19th July.
3
CSAP 3.6.1: Work with the freight industry as a matter of urgency to identify the most appropriate and
cost effective safety device (standard specification and retrofitting) for large goods vehicles. Side
guards and motion sensors to be considered.
CSAP 3.9.2: Work with the FTA and others in identifying and piloting technical solutions to develop
improved vehicle design and the concept of an urban lorry.
CSAP 3.9.5: Work with the Freight industry to improve cyclist safety to explore new ways to engage
and understand the industry perspective and communicate messages (such as through training and
promotion) and to develop technical solutions that could improve cycle safety.
RG: Best bit of CSH are the smarter travel measures, cycle
training and work around the junctions. Comment made that
inspection meetings are of a lower standard that CRISPS and
documentations.
RS: Reminded that the CSH 7 and 3 are pilots where
monitoring and improvements can be made.
3.5
Motorcycles in bus lanes
LM gave an update on the motorcycles in bus lanes trial:
- There has not been an increase in pedal cyclist
collisions
- There has been an increase in collisions between
motorcycles and motorists, mainly from collisions from
cars coming out of side roads.
- The Mayor wants to conduct a further 18 month trial
which will be complemented with road safety and
enforcement measures.
- All the groups consulted on the previous trial will be
engaged with again.
- There is complex monitoring which needs discussion
and LM will be setting up meetings with key stakeholder
groups to discuss the outcomes of the monitoring in
LM
more detail.
AOB
TfL will take away the comments today on how to make the
LM
most out of the meetings.
Agree to:
- Provide more detail on the discussions that take place
- To collate and send progress reports from all the group
members in advance of the meeting.
- Allow time at the meeting to discuss what has been
sent around in advance for review.
- Ensure the meeting is the strategic lead on cycle safety
and the Cycle Safety Action Plan.
- Set up Sub meetings for members that wish to discuss
specific items in more detail where this supports the
main work of the Group.
Date of the next meetings in 2010:
18th August 3.30-5pm, Palestra, TfL
13th October 10-11.30, Palestra, TfL
9th December 3.30-5, Palestra, TfL
Sub Working Groups which already contribute to the Cycle Safety Working
Group
Group
Contact
CSAP Action area
CSAP Action
David
Cycling Risk Group
Snelling Enforcement
3.4.1, 3.4.3, 3.8.4
Criminal Justice System and
Cycle Collisions Project
Siwan
Group
Hayward Enforcement
3.4.2
Alastair
Driver Sights and Lines
Hanton Partnership
Working
3.9.6
Commercial driving and
Freight Operator Working
Gordon
working practices,
3.7.2, 3.7.4,3.6.1,
Group
Telling
Technology
3.9.2, 3.9.5
3.1.1, 3.1.3, 3.1.5,
Borough Cycling Officers
Bob
3.1.7, 3.1.8, 3.2.2,
Group
Davis Partnership
working
3.7.1, 3.7.2
Retailers and manufacturers
Jen
forum
Calvert Partnership
Working
3.9.8
Jen
3.2.1, 3.2.2, 3.2.3,
Cycle Training Sub Group
Calvert Cycle
Training
3.2.4