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Jacob Gemma
From:
Godwin Harold
Sent:
13 June 2016 15:41
To:
Jacob Gemma
Subject:
FW: Gatwick Airport PAYG/CPAY allocations
Harold Godwin  
Pricing and Forecasting Manager  
Transport for London  
4th Floor Windsor House 
London SW1H 0TL  
Tel 
From: Godwin Harold  
Sent: 11 March 2016 13:32 
To: 'Wallis, Hugh' 
Cc: Walker, Nicola; Nairne, Arabella; Bennett Sarah; De Ste Croix Richard; Jackson Stephen (CORP) 
Subject: RE: Gatwick Airport PAYG/CPAY allocations 
Hugh, 
It’s the Hatch End fare, not the 2-6 fare. 
The arrangement that you have at the moment involves an extension fare exceeding the 
equivalent fare for the extension part of the journey. The issue that we’ve been seeking to explore 
is what happens if an extension fare exceeds an end-to-end journey fare – whether the customer 
is charged cap+fare or cap+extn fare. 
Stephen’s not in the office at present. When he’s back we’ll ensure between us that you get a 
response to your other points. 
Kind regards, 
Harold Godwin  
Pricing and Forecasting Manager  
Transport for London  
4th Floor Windsor House 
London SW1H 0TL  
Tel 
From: Wallis, Hugh [mailto:
Sent: 11 March 2016 12:51 
To: Godwin Harold 
Cc: Walker, Nicola; Nairne, Arabella; Bennett Sarah; De Ste Croix Richard; Jackson Stephen (CORP) 
Subject: RE: Gatwick Airport PAYG/CPAY allocations 
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Harold 
Thanks for clarification. So just to confirm, whilst extension fares generally are set equal to a local fare, 
because local fares vary, they are not necessarily the same as the equivalent local fare (e.g. 5-10 is £2.80 
peak, £2.50 off peak for Dagenham Dock to Grays, compared with the extension fare of £2.90 peak, £1.80 
off peak). Would Zone 6 to Watford/Grays use the Hatch End to Watford fare (£2.40/£1.80) or the generic 5 
zone non Zone 1 inboundary fare (£2.80/£1.50)? 
On the issue of extension fares exceeding journey fares, we already have that on the Gatwick extension (to 
avoid a single journey being capped). Is what you’re checking that the passenger is only charged the local 
fare if making a local journey and that is cheaper than a cap plus extension fare? 
I’m assuming Stephen will respond on the other points. 
Regards 
Hugh 
From: Godwin Harold [mailto:
  
Sent: 10 March 2016 17:54 
To: Wallis, Hugh 
Cc: Walker, Nicola; Nairne, Arabella; Bennett Sarah; De Ste Croix Richard; Jackson Stephen (CORP) 
Subject: RE: Gatwick Airport PAYG/CPAY allocations 
Dear Hugh, 
The £2.90 extension fare to Grays is the Peak TfL Z5 to Watford Junction fare. Grays, being also 
in Zone 10, has to share extension fares with Watford Junction. So the correct extension fare has 
been charged with the Z1-4 cap in the case that you couldn’t follow. We’ll have a think about the 
best way of getting the full set of CPAY fares to you. 
I acknowledge that I’m still outstanding to reply to you concerning possible increases to Gatwick 
extension fares. In our internal discussions we’ve identified the need to ensure that unintended 
effects don’t happen if extension fares were ever to exceed journey fares. We’re looking into that 
at present and I will reply again as soon as possible. We’ve still a little time to change things for 
May. 
Kind regards, 
Harold Godwin  
Pricing and Forecasting Manager  
Transport for London  
4th Floor Windsor House 
London SW1H 0TL  
Tel 
 
From: Wallis, Hugh [mailto:
  
Sent: 09 March 2016 14:54 
To: Jackson Stephen (CORP) 
Cc: Walker, Nicola; Nairne, Arabella; Godwin Harold; Bennett Sarah; De Ste Croix Richard 
Subject: RE: Gatwick Airport PAYG/CPAY allocations 
Stephen 
Thanks for this. Sorry it has taken a bit of time to digest! 
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Hugh Wallis 
Revenue Agreements Manager, Govia Thameslink Railway (GTR) 
 
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