Jacob Gemma
From:
Godwin Harold
Sent:
13 June 2016 15:41
To:
Jacob Gemma
Subject:
FW: Gatwick Airport PAYG/CPAY allocations
Harold Godwin
Pricing and Forecasting Manager
Transport for London
4th Floor Windsor House
London SW1H 0TL
Tel
From: Godwin Harold
Sent: 11 March 2016 13:32
To: 'Wallis, Hugh'
Cc: Walker, Nicola; Nairne, Arabella; Bennett Sarah; De Ste Croix Richard; Jackson Stephen (CORP)
Subject: RE: Gatwick Airport PAYG/CPAY allocations
Hugh,
It’s the Hatch End fare, not the 2-6 fare.
The arrangement that you have at the moment involves an extension fare exceeding the
equivalent fare for the extension part of the journey. The issue that we’ve been seeking to explore
is what happens if an extension fare exceeds an end-to-end journey fare – whether the customer
is charged cap+fare or cap+extn fare.
Stephen’s not in the office at present. When he’s back we’ll ensure between us that you get a
response to your other points.
Kind regards,
Harold Godwin
Pricing and Forecasting Manager
Transport for London
4th Floor Windsor House
London SW1H 0TL
Tel
From: Wallis, Hugh [mailto:
Sent: 11 March 2016 12:51
To: Godwin Harold
Cc: Walker, Nicola; Nairne, Arabella; Bennett Sarah; De Ste Croix Richard; Jackson Stephen (CORP)
Subject: RE: Gatwick Airport PAYG/CPAY allocations
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Harold
Thanks for clarification. So just to confirm, whilst extension fares generally are set equal to a local fare,
because local fares vary, they are not necessarily the same as the equivalent local fare (e.g. 5-10 is £2.80
peak, £2.50 off peak for Dagenham Dock to Grays, compared with the extension fare of £2.90 peak, £1.80
off peak). Would Zone 6 to Watford/Grays use the Hatch End to Watford fare (£2.40/£1.80) or the generic 5
zone non Zone 1 inboundary fare (£2.80/£1.50)?
On the issue of extension fares exceeding journey fares, we already have that on the Gatwick extension (to
avoid a single journey being capped). Is what you’re checking that the passenger is only charged the local
fare if making a local journey and that is cheaper than a cap plus extension fare?
I’m assuming Stephen will respond on the other points.
Regards
Hugh
From: Godwin Harold [mailto:
Sent: 10 March 2016 17:54
To: Wallis, Hugh
Cc: Walker, Nicola; Nairne, Arabella; Bennett Sarah; De Ste Croix Richard; Jackson Stephen (CORP)
Subject: RE: Gatwick Airport PAYG/CPAY allocations
Dear Hugh,
The £2.90 extension fare to Grays is the Peak TfL Z5 to Watford Junction fare. Grays, being also
in Zone 10, has to share extension fares with Watford Junction. So the correct extension fare has
been charged with the Z1-4 cap in the case that you couldn’t follow. We’ll have a think about the
best way of getting the full set of CPAY fares to you.
I acknowledge that I’m still outstanding to reply to you concerning possible increases to Gatwick
extension fares. In our internal discussions we’ve identified the need to ensure that unintended
effects don’t happen if extension fares were ever to exceed journey fares. We’re looking into that
at present and I will reply again as soon as possible. We’ve still a little time to change things for
May.
Kind regards,
Harold Godwin
Pricing and Forecasting Manager
Transport for London
4th Floor Windsor House
London SW1H 0TL
Tel
From: Wallis, Hugh [mailto:
Sent: 09 March 2016 14:54
To: Jackson Stephen (CORP)
Cc: Walker, Nicola; Nairne, Arabella; Godwin Harold; Bennett Sarah; De Ste Croix Richard
Subject: RE: Gatwick Airport PAYG/CPAY allocations
Stephen
Thanks for this. Sorry it has taken a bit of time to digest!
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Hugh Wallis
Revenue Agreements Manager, Govia Thameslink Railway (GTR)
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