10 unsolved murders in the Northumbria Police

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Dear Northumbria Police,
The Journal on the 5th January 2007 reported; There are 10 unsolved murders in the Northumbria Police area, going back more than 20 years.

http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-e...

On the 31st April 1993 a Mr Talbot entered the Ford & Hylton Social Club Sunderland with two other burglars in the early hours of the morning intent on stealing money from the gaming machines. The club owner Paul Watson had been given warning the burglars were coming so, instead of bothering the police he waited with to friends armed with two knives and a wooden stave. The men sprang their ambush as the burglars tried to escape. A struggle broke out and Mr Talbot collapsed dying with a knife wound to his chest. Mr Talbot died from the wound.

A trial was held at Newcastle Crown Court where Judge Angus Stroyan directed the jury on the second day to find Paul Watson not guilty of murder as the two prosecution witnesses had decided to change their stories.

So we know the witnesses changed their stories and Paul Watson was acquitted of murder but we also know a man died because of knife wounds to his chest.

Did Northumbria Police supply the information published in the linked newspaper article?

If Northumbria Police did supply this information why was this murder not included in the information?

What further investigations have Northumbria Police taken to solve this death since the collapse of the trial?

Can you please inform me how many of unsolved murders there are in the Northumbria Police area presently. As in the Journal can you please provide the names and a summary of the events that surrounded these murders?

Yours faithfully,

Gene Lindsey

Northumbria Police

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The Journal on the 5th January 2007 reported; There are 10 unsolved murders
in the Northumbria Police area, going back more than 20 years.

http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-e...

1. Did Northumbria Police supply the information published in the linked
newspaper article?
2. If Northumbria Police did supply this information why was this murder
not included in the information?
3. What further investigations have Northumbria Police taken to solve this
death since the collapse of the trial?
4. Can you please inform me how many of unsolved murders there are in the
Northumbria Police area presently. As in the Journal can you please provide
the names and a summary of the events that surrounded these murders?

We have now had the opportunity to fully consider your request and I
provide a response for your attention.

Following receipt of your request, searches were conducted with both the
Corporate Communications and Crime Departments of Northumbria Police. I can
confirm that the information you have requested is held in part by
Northumbria Police.

I am able to disclose the located information to you as follows.

1. No information held. We can find no record of this information being
provided by Northumbria Police to the Journal
2. N/a
3. We will neither confirm nor deny if any further investigations have
taken place since the defendant was found not guilty and by doing so we
shall rely on the following exemption.

Section 30(3) Investigations and Proceedings conducted by Public
Authorities

Section 30 is a class based qualified exemption and consideration must be
given as to whether there is a public interest in neither confirming nor
denying the information exists.

I have set these out below.

Section 30 - Public Interest factors favouring disclosure
Confirming what further investigations have been carried out could promote
public trust in providing transparency, demonstrating openness and
accountability into response to incidents or crimes. It could also provide
reassurance to the public that the police service conducts any
investigations appropriately. To confirm could also allow the public to
have a better understanding of the effectiveness of the police service, and
allow the public to make informed decisions about police procedures and the
money spent in this business area.

Section 30 - Public Interest factors against disclosure
The police service relies on information being supplied by the public. In
this case the request relates to details about the further investigations
being made in relation to a murder case. If we were to confirm or deny
that such further information is held this would indicate that something
had or had not been reported to us, and the success of any investigations
would be compromised. It is not in the public interest to disclose any
information prematurely that may hinder those investigations.

Balance Test
The points above highlight the merits of confirming or denying the
requested data exists. Whilst there is a public interest in the
transparency of policing and providing assurance that crimes and
investigations are conducted appropriately there is strong public interest
in safeguarding the integrity of any police investigations. The police
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compromise any investigations or indicate to any person the current status
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It should not be taken that any such investigations have or have not taken
place, and it should not be taken as an inference that the information you
have requested, does or does not exist.

I can advise that unsolved murders and cases of that importance are never
closed and are periodically reviewed. If new information is received or
there are new forensic developments these are acted upon.

4. With regards to this part of your request the following exemption is
relevant and has been applied.
As the information you have requested is accessible by other means I have
not provided you with a copy of the information and will rely on Section 21
of the Freedom of Information Act 2000. You should therefore consider this
a refusal for your request.

I have provided an explanation to this exemption below.

Section 21 (1) - Information accessible by other means

Information which is reasonably accessible to the applicant is exempt
information.
Information as of September 2013 is published on the Northumbria Police
website via the Disclosure Log, FOI 722/13 and is therefore freely
available.
Information regarding subsequent unsolved murders that are not on the above
list can also be found by simple research. I have provided relevant links
below, however there may be other information available, which can be
researched from details given in the links.

http://www.northumbria.police.uk/news_an...

http://www.northumbria.police.uk/news_an...

http://www.northumbria.police.uk/news_an...

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I have provided the relevant link below.

http://www.northumbria.police.uk/foi/dis...

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Dear Northumbria Police,
Northumbria Police responded to a FOI request on the Dated: 22 May 2013 the request was as follows:

Going back to 1990 only - Please disclose full details of the homicide investigations which remain unresolved in the force area.
I would like the information to include, for each relevant year:
The number of murder investigations for which no-one has been charged;
The date of the crime/date on which it was notified to the police;
The nature and circumstances of the crime;
The name and age of the victim;
Whether it remains under active investigation or not."

The reply to this request can be view by this link: http://www.northumbria.police.uk/Images/...

The request asked for information going back to 1990. The reply does not cover the period requested, it starts at 23/12/93. Homicides from 1990 to the 23/12/93 have not been provided in the reply?

Can you please provide me information about any homicide in Northumbria Police area from the 1st January 1990 until May !993.
Yours faithfully,

gene lindsey

Northumbria Police

Dear Mr Lindsey

From the below it would appear that you are requesting an internal review
of a response given to a different requestor (not you) to a different
request that was despatched over 2 years ago.

As per the complaint rights, a request for an internal review can be
submitted by the requestor. This must be submitted within 40 working days
of receipt of the original response.

Should you require an internal review of the response given to you (that
gave information dating back to 1919), please confirm this by reply.

Yours sincerely

Michael Cleugh
Data Protection & Disclosure Advisor

From: gene lindsey <[FOI #287387 email]> on
21/09/2015 16:50

To: <[Northumbria Police request email]>
cc:
Subject: Internal review of Freedom of Information request - 10 unsolved
murders in the Northumbria Police

Dear Northumbria Police,
Northumbria Police responded to a FOI request on the Dated: 22 May 2013 the
request was as follows:

Going back to 1990 only - Please disclose full details of the homicide
investigations which remain unresolved in the force area.
I would like the information to include, for each relevant year:
The number of murder investigations for which no-one has been charged;
The date of the crime/date on which it was notified to the police;
The nature and circumstances of the crime;
The name and age of the victim;
Whether it remains under active investigation or not."

The reply to this request can be view by this link:
http://www.northumbria.police.uk/Images/...

The request asked for information going back to 1990. The reply does not
cover the period requested, it starts at 23/12/93. Homicides from 1990 to
the 23/12/93 have not been provided in the reply?

Can you please provide me information about any homicide in Northumbria
Police area from the 1st January 1990 until May !993.
Yours faithfully,

gene lindsey

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