Why dont south yorkshire police investigate SS perjury

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From: Ian Eskriett

5 June 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am wanting to know why South Yorkshire police (SYP) dont
investigate and prosecute Social Services when the commit perjury
in cases involving childcare, and why do SYP support the perjury in
certain cases by supporting SSD's observations when they are wrong
anjd have been poroved wrong

Yours faithfully,

Ian Eskriett

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South Yorkshire Police

8 June 2009


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Ian Eskriett

[FOI #13046 email]

8^th June 2009

Dear Mr Eskriett

Freedom of Information Request - Reference No: 20090276

Thank you for your request for information in relation to:

***Dear Sir or Madam,

I am wanting to know why South Yorkshire police (SYP) dont
investigate and prosecute Social Services when the commit perjury
in cases involving childcare, and why do SYP support the perjury in
certain cases by supporting SSD's observations when they are wrong
anjd have been poroved wrong

Yours faithfully,

Ian Eskriett***

Your request will now be considered and you will receive a response within
the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Act, subject
to the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third
party. In some circumstances South Yorkshire Police may be unable to
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revised time-scale at the earliest opportunity

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Yours faithfully,

Philip Crick
Information Compliance Clerk
South Yorkshire Police
Information Compliance Unit
Professional Standards Department
Unit 20 Sheffield 35A Business Park
Churchill Way
Sheffield
S35 2PY

Internal T/N
1797
1798

External T/N
0114 292 1797
0114 292 1798

South Yorkshire Police provides you the right to request a re-examination
of your case under its review procedure (copy enclosed). If you decide to
request such a review and having followed the Constabulary***s full
process you are still dissatisfied, then you have the right to direct your
comments to Information Commissioner who will give it consideration.

Ian Eskriett To FOI requests at South
<[FOI #13046 email]> Yorkshire Police
<[South Yorkshire Police request email]>
05/06/2009 21:28 cc
Subject Freedom of Information
request - Why dont south
yorkshire police
investigate SS perjury

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am wanting to know why South Yorkshire police (SYP) dont
investigate and prosecute Social Services when the commit perjury
in cases involving childcare, and why do SYP support the perjury in
certain cases by supporting SSD's observations when they are wrong
anjd have been poroved wrong

Yours faithfully,

Ian Eskriett

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South Yorkshire Police

25 June 2009


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25th June 2009

Mr Ian Eskriett

[1][FOI #13046 email]

Dear Mr Code

Freedom of Information Request - Reference No: 20090277

Thank you for your request for information in relation to:

I am wanting to know why South Yorkshire police (SYP) dont
investigate and prosecute Social Services when the commit perjury
in cases involving childcare, and why do SYP support the perjury in
certain cases by supporting SSD's observations when they are wrong
anjd have been poroved wrong

Please could you clarify the following: -

Your correspondence does not contain a request for specific information.

The offence of ***Perjury*** is defined under Section 1 of the Perjury
Act, 1911: -

***If any person lawfully sworn as a witness or as an interpreter in a
judicial proceeding willfully makes a statement material in that
proceeding, which he knows to be false or does not believe to be true, he
shall be guilty of perjury, and shall, on conviction thereof on
indictment, be liable to penal servitude for a term not exceeding seven
years, or to imprisonment . . . [2]F1 for a term not exceeding two years,
or to a fine or to both such penal servitude or imprisonment and fine.***

This is a serious offence, triable on indictment only before the Crown
Court.

Your correspondence appears to be in the nature of an intimation that
South Yorkshire Police have failed in their duty to investigate an offence
of Perjury. If you have evidence or information that such an offence has
been committed may I suggest you contact and make a complaint/report to
your local Police Station or the Police station responsible for the area
in which you allege the offence was committed.

If you have a complaint to make about the actions or otherwise of a member
of South Yorkshire Police you can make it in person at any Police Station
or in writing either to the Chief Constable or, more properly, to: -

The Chief Superintendent,
South Yorkshire Police Professional Standards Department,
Unit 20, Churchill Way,
Sheffield,
South Yorkshire, S35 2PY

As things stand your ***request*** is not actionable in terms of
compliance with the Freedom of Information Act. It would be helpful if you
could specify what recorded information you require giving as much detail
of the issue giving rise to your request.

Please forward your clarification to South Yorkshire Police as this
request will be ***stopped*** on our database until this has been
received.
Once we have received clarification, your request be considered and you
will receive a response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days
as defined by the Act, subject to the information not being exempt or
containing a reference to a third party. In some circumstances South
Yorkshire Police may be unable to achieve this deadline. If this is likely
you will be informed and given a revised time-scale at the earliest
opportunity.

There may be a fee payable for the retrieval, collation and provision of
the information you request. If this is the case you will be informed and
the 20 working day timescale will be suspended until we receive payment
from you. If you choose not to make a payment then your request will
remain unanswered.

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to
another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest
possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

Yours faithfully,

Yours faithfully,

Philip Crick
Information Compliance Clerk
South Yorkshire Police
Information Compliance Unit
Professional Standards Department
Unit 20 Sheffield 35A Business Park
Churchill Way
Sheffield
S35 2PY

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0114 292 1798

Email - [South Yorkshire Police request email]

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South Yorkshire Police provides you the right to request a re-examination
of your case under its review procedure (copy enclosed). If you decide to
request such a review and having followed the Constabulary***s full
process you are still dissatisfied, then you have the right to direct your
comments to the Information Commissioner who will give it consideration.

Ian Eskriett To FOI requests at South
<[FOI #13046 email]> Yorkshire Police
<[South Yorkshire Police request email]>
05/06/2009 21:28 cc
Subject Freedom of Information
request - Why dont south
yorkshire police
investigate SS perjury

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am wanting to know why South Yorkshire police (SYP) dont
investigate and prosecute Social Services when the commit perjury
in cases involving childcare, and why do SYP support the perjury in
certain cases by supporting SSD's observations when they are wrong
anjd have been poroved wrong

Yours faithfully,

Ian Eskriett

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From: Ian Eskriett

4 July 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

Please respond with your reply as the 20 days are up, as I may have
to contact the Information Commissioner and take the matter up with
them

Yours faithfully,

Ian Eskriett

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Alex Skene left an annotation ( 4 July 2009)

Hi

They've asked for clarification, so the FOI clock stops until this is provided... The ICO won't consider an appeal until all internal complaints processes with SYP have been gone through.

They said:
"As things stand your ‘request’ is not actionable in terms of compliance with the Freedom of Information Act. It would be helpful if you could specify what recorded information you require giving as much detail of the issue giving rise to your request.

Please forward your clarification to South Yorkshire Police as this request will be ‘stopped’ on our database until this has been received.

Once we have received clarification, your request be considered and you will receive a response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days"

Cheers
Alex

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South Yorkshire Police

6 July 2009

Dear Mr Eskriett,

Unfortunately you do not appear to have provided any clarification in
respect of your initial correspondence. As such the matter has been
'stopped' within the 20 days as specified in the Freedom of Information
Act.

As I explained in my e-mail of 25/06/2009 the Freedom of Information Act
(FOIA) places a duty on Public Authorities to release RECORDED information
upon request. Your initial correspondence did not contain any specific
request for information and as such could not be processed under FOIA.

Your correspondence did however intimate that you had information or
concerns regarding the failure of South Yorkshire Police to comply with
its duty to investigate the possibility that agents or staff of another
Public Authority may have committed serious criminal offences. If this is
the case and you do indeed have information, evidence or suspicions as
such then I can only advise you, as previously, to report the matter to
your local Police Station or the Police Station responsible for the area
in which you believe the offence may have been committed.

If you have a complaint to make about the actions, or lack thereof, of a
member of South Yorkshire Police then you can make it in person at any
Police Station or in writing to the Chief Constable or, more properly, to:
-

The Chief Superintendent,
South Yorkshire Police Professional Standards Department,
Unit 20, Churchill Way,
Sheffield,
South Yorkshire, S35 2PY

I would once again invite you to provide clarification to include a
request for specific, recorded, information.

Philip Crick
Information Compliance Clerk
South Yorkshire Police
Information Compliance Unit
Professional Standards Department
Unit 20 Sheffield 35A Business Park
Churchill Way
Sheffield
S35 2PY

Internal T/N
711793
711798

External T/N
0114 292 1793
0114 292 1798

Email - [South Yorkshire Police request email]

Citizen Focus: Improving Satisfaction and Confidence is a Priority for the
Force

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Subject Re: Freedom of Information
04/07/2009 08:54 request - Why dont south
yorkshire police
investigate SS perjury

Dear Sir or Madam,

Please respond with your reply as the 20 days are up, as I may have
to contact the Information Commissioner and take the matter up with
them

Yours faithfully,

Ian Eskriett

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