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Who is the "3rd Party" who is responsible for Grove Road Hemel Hempstead

J Edwards made this Freedom of Information request to Hertfordshire County Council

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From: J Edwards

22 March 2010

Dear Hertfordshire County Council,

Highways fault reference 1532851, the report of the obstruction of
Grove Road, Hemel Hempstead, dated 9th February 2010, is shown as
"Resolved - referred to 3rd Party".

1. What is the name and address of the 3rd party?

2. What responsibility do HCC consider this 3rd party has to remove
the reported obstruction of Grove Road?

Yours faithfully,

J Edwards

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From: Herts Direct
Hertfordshire County Council

23 March 2010

Dear J Edwards,

Your message has been received and will be dealt with as soon as possible.
Our standard is to reply within ten working days.
Should you need to make contact with us again on this matter, it helps us
if you quote reference number: 3461

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Amy at HertsDirect

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22/03/2010 10:36 cc
Subject Freedom of Information
request - Who is the "3rd
Party" who is responsible
for Grove Road Hemel
Hempstead

Dear Hertfordshire County Council,

Highways fault reference 1532851, the report of the obstruction of
Grove Road, Hemel Hempstead, dated 9th February 2010, is shown as
"Resolved - referred to 3rd Party".

1. What is the name and address of the 3rd party?

2. What responsibility do HCC consider this 3rd party has to remove
the reported obstruction of Grove Road?

Yours faithfully,

J Edwards

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From: J Edwards

26 April 2010

Dear Herts Direct,

As noted in an e-mail to your Chief Executive dated 22nd April
2010, and again in an e-mail to Ms Dunnicliffe, HCC Senior
Information Access Practitioner dated 23rd April 2020, your
response to my FoI request headed "Who is the 3rd Party responsible
for Grove Road" is now out of time, the due date being 21st April
2010.

I note that whilst you are not yet able to tell me who the 1st
Third Party to whom you referred the obstruction is, you are able
to tell me that he / she / it is the same as the 2nd Third Party
(the subject of a second FoI request to which you have responded).

You must therefore know who the Third Party is. If you did not you
could not tell me that he / she / it is the same in both cases.
That being so, why so coy about telling me who he / she / it is?

Please now send me the information, which you obviously have to
hand, by the end of today.

Please do not forget that I also asked "What responsibility do HCC
consider this 3rd party has to remove the reported obstruction of
Grove Road?

Yours sincerely,

J Edwards

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From: Herts Direct
Hertfordshire County Council

27 April 2010

Dear J Edwards,

Please accept our apologies for the delay in sending a response to your
email of 26/04/2010
Reference: 3461

We have contacted the department responsible for providing the information
and have asked for them to respond as soon as possible.

When we have a response we will ensure that this is forwarded onto you
immediately.

Kind regards

Dan at HertsDirect

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26/04/2010 12:30 Subject Re: Freedom of Information
request - Who is the "3rd
Party" who is responsible for
Grove Road Hemel Hempstead
ref 3461

Dear Herts Direct,

As noted in an e-mail to your Chief Executive dated 22nd April
2010, and again in an e-mail to Ms Dunnicliffe, HCC Senior
Information Access Practitioner dated 23rd April 2020, your
response to my FoI request headed "Who is the 3rd Party responsible
for Grove Road" is now out of time, the due date being 21st April
2010.

I note that whilst you are not yet able to tell me who the 1st
Third Party to whom you referred the obstruction is, you are able
to tell me that he / she / it is the same as the 2nd Third Party
(the subject of a second FoI request to which you have responded).

You must therefore know who the Third Party is. If you did not you
could not tell me that he / she / it is the same in both cases.
That being so, why so coy about telling me who he / she / it is?

Please now send me the information, which you obviously have to
hand, by the end of today.

Please do not forget that I also asked "What responsibility do HCC
consider this 3rd party has to remove the reported obstruction of
Grove Road?

Yours sincerely,

J Edwards

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From: Information Governance
Hertfordshire County Council

28 April 2010

Dear J. Edwards

Reference number: FOI/ENV/03/10/1975

In response to your recent further communication:

I note that whilst you are not yet able to tell me who the 1st
Third Party to whom you referred the obstruction is, you are able
to tell me that he / she / it is the same as the 2nd Third Party
(the subject of a second FoI request to which you have responded).

You must therefore know who the Third Party is. If you did not you
could not tell me that he / she / it is the same in both cases.
That being so, why so coy about telling me who he / she / it is?

Please now send me the information, which you obviously have to
hand, by the end of today.

Please do not forget that I also asked "What responsibility do HCC
consider this 3rd party has to remove the reported obstruction of
Grove Road?

In both cases it was an internal referral from the Highways Works Team to
the Area Management Team. I understand that this is standard wording
within the fault reports recording system where the road in question is
Highway not maintained at the public expense and therefore the problem
falls outside the remit of the Highways Works Team.

The role of the Area Management Team (The third party referred to) would
be to liaise with any other agency or individual who may have
responsibility to resolve the issue. However please note that where we
refer any issue to an individual we would not release any information by
which they could be identified as Data Protection legislation takes
precedence over Freedom of Information legislation

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me, quoting
the reference number on this letter. To find out more about Freedom of
Information, please visit www.hertsdirect.org/foi

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entitled to ask the Information Commissioner to investigate your
complaint. You should write to: FOI/EIR Complaints Resolution, Information
Commissioner's Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9
5AF.

Yours sincerely,

Elaine Dunnicliffe
Senior Information Access Practitioner
________________________________________
Information Governance Unit
Hertfordshire County Council
Telephone: 01992 555848
Fax: 01992 588117
Email: [email address]

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