Securing a diagnosis and treatment

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From: justin

15 August 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

If a patient is not able to find a GP who knows where to refer a
patient to to get a diagnosis or, as is more often the case,
refuses to refer a patient for a diagnosis and subsequent treatment
and the PCT cannot provide the required diagnosis and treatment
through any of their employed GP's then what options exist for the
patient to secure the help they require?

The condition in question is suffered by 500,000 people in the UK
and the diagnosis and treatment is covered by a current NICE
Guideline that GP's,PCT's and SHA'a have had since 2006.

Yours faithfully,

Justin Oakley

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Department of Health

18 August 2009

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From: justin

28 August 2009

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Yours faithfully,

justin

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4 September 2009


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Dear Mr Oakley,

Thank you for your further email to the Department of Health dated 28
August about GP referrals.

I am sorry that you were unable to read my previous reply to you dated 26
August, and I will repeat below the context of that reply, which I hope
you will be able to read, quote:

Dear Mr Oakley,

Thank you for your email dated 15 August to the Department of Health about
GP referrals. I have been asked to reply.

Unfortunately, since your email does not name either the condition or the
specific National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence ( NICE )
guidelines, the Department cannot properly reply to your query at this
time.

Please forward to us more specific details of the condition, the relevant
guidelines, and any incidents or events that have prompted your query, and
we will respond accordingly.

I am sorry I cannot be more helpful.

Unquote.

I have also attached my original response as a document which I also hope
you can access.

Yours sincerely,

Martin Gatty
Customer Service Centre
Department of Health

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From: justin

4 September 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

The condition is ME.

The NICE Guideline referred to is number 53.

The incidents include refusal and or inability of two GP's to refer
me to a clinician willing to and or capable of adhering to the NICE
Guidelines for a proper diagnosis and subsequent referral to a
suitable service for therapy. Also included is the refusal,
unwillingness and or inability of NHS Bedfordshire and EoE SHA to
provide me with correct and comprehensive information as to how I
can obtain the required health care.

Please confirm that this is sufficient information.

Yours faithfully,

Justin Oakley

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18 September 2009


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From: justin

19 September 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your detailed reply.

NHS Bedfordshire PALS were not able to provide me with the
information I needed to get the therapy I needed and 18 months
after initially asking they still cannot, the commissioners also
did not know. The latter advised me that I would have to submit a
complaint using the NHS Complaints Procedure to get the information
I needed. The Medical Director also stated a number of times that
this is what I needed to do. The Medical Director gave me incorrect
advice about the health care pathway including claiming that I
could be referred to Hertfordshire for help. Hertfordshire wrote to
NHS Bedfordshire stating that this was not the case, never was and
would not be in the future unless a contract was in place. NHS
Bedfordshire refused to comment on this.

After over a year, NHS Bedfordshire admitted and apologised that
they had made a mistake by telling me that I had to make a
complaint to get the information and help I needed but still could
not give me the information I needed. This admittance was four
months after the issue had gone to the board who stated that they
would not address the issue until they received instructions from
the PHSO.

My ex GP believed that the doctors at Bedford Hospital had given me
a diagnosis and they and the Chief Executive stated that this did
not happen. There is nothing in my notes to say that a diagnosis
was given.

My ex GP believed that I could be referred to Bedford Hospital for
the therapy that I needed. This is what happened. Bedford Hospital
advised me that there has never been an arrangement to provide the
therapy that I needed and stated that their staff had not received
the training to deliver the therapy. Bedford Hospital did not write
to my ex GP stating that they could not offer me the therapy I
needed.

Despite making a complaint to my ex GP, he has still believes that
the referral was correct. Bedford Hospital still says different but
were not prepared to speak to my GP.

Despite sending five complaints to NHS Bedfordshire they refuse to
address the above issues.

Referring a complaint to PHSO after local resolution does help one
get the help one needs, it only addresses process issues.

So I refer back to my original question and I ask you again to
provide me with a satisfactory answer. It is about how I can secure
the help I need rather than how the DOH believe how things should
work, the difference being quite big.

I look forward to you earliest reply.

Justin Oakley

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Department of Health

21 September 2009

Thank you for your email.

Where a reply is appropriate we aim to send one within 20 working days.

If your enquiry is about a medical matter, please contact NHS Direct on
0845 4647 or visit [1]NHS Choices, or contact your GP surgery.

For the latest on swine flu, please visit [2]the National Pandemic Flu
Service (NPFS) or call 0800 1 513 100.

For general health information you may also find it helpful to refer to
[3]Directgov, the UK Government's Official information website, or the
Department of Health website's [4]Frequently Asked Questions.

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Department of Health

6 October 2009

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Dear Mr Oakley,
Thank you for your further email of 19 September to the Department of
Health about dissatisfaction with your local NHS services.
Whilst I was sorry to read of your ongoing problems, there is nothing
further I can add to the information already provided to you. This is a
local matter, and neither Ministers nor officials of the Department can
assist you directly with your complaint.
Yours sincerely,
Stephen Atkinson
Customer Service Centre

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