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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
11 November 2008
Dear Sir or Madam,
Will you confirm or deny that Officers of the survey are subject to
S. 1 (1) (a) (iii) of the Malicious Communications Act.
Yours faithfully,
fred robinson
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
11 November 2008
Thank you for your email which has been received by Ordnance Survey.
This is an automatic response acknowledging your email. There is no need
to reply. Our aim is to respond to your enquiry within 10 working days,
or sooner if we can.
If you haven't already done so you may wish to view information
regarding our products and services on our website at
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
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Thank you for your cooperation.
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Tel: 08456 050505
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From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
11 November 2008
Our Ref: SAP 69603
Dear Mr Robinson
Request for information
Thank you for your email dated 11 November 2008, requesting if officers
of Ordnance Survey are subject to S. 1 (1) (a) (iii) of the Malicious
Communications Act 1988.
Please note that Ordnance Survey is considering your request under the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA). As your request was received by
us on 11 November 2008 we will provide you with a full response within
20 working days as required by the FOIA, meaning by 09 December 2008.
In the meantime, if you have any further questions please contact me.
Thank you for your enquiry.
Kind regards
[Ordnance Survey]
Customer Service Centre, Ordnance Survey
C454, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU
Phone: +44 (0) 8456 050505
Fax: +44 (0) 23 8079 2615
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From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
14 November 2008
Ordnance Survey reference: 69603
Dear Mr Robinson
Request for information
Thank you for your email dated 11 November 2008 requesting: 'Will you
confirm or deny that Officers of the survey are subject to s.1 (1) (a)
(iii) of the Malicious Communications Act 1988?'
We are pleased to provide you with the following information with regard
to your request.
As Civil Servants, Ordnance Survey staff are required to conduct their
activities in line with the Civil Service Code. This requirement forms
a part of the Ordnance Survey Staff Handbook, for which I have attached
the appropriate section. As a consequence Ordnance Survey employees
must comply with the requirements of the Malicious Communications Act
1988.
Please note that your enquiry has been processed to Freedom of
Information guidelines. To the extent that the public interest (section
17) applies, we have determined that in all the circumstances of the
case, the public interest has been met with the full provision of all
information in this instance.
If you are unhappy with our response, you may raise an appeal to our
Appeals Officer at:
Customer Service Centre
Ordnance Survey
Romsey Road
SOUTHAMPTON
SO16 4GU
Please include the reference number above. The Appeals Officer will
ensure that the process has been followed correctly, questioning any
decisions taken regarding the original response and recommending
disclosure of additional information if appropriate.
Thank you for your enquiry
Kind regards
[Ordnance Survey]
Customer Service Centre, Ordnance Survey
C454, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU
Phone: +44 (0) 8456 050505
Fax: +44 (0) 23 8079 2615
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
14 November 2008
Dear Customer Services,
I see no reference in the download you sent me to the Malicious
Comminications Act. Please clarify.
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
14 November 2008
Thank you for your email which has been received by Ordnance Survey.
This is an automatic response acknowledging your email. There is no need
to reply. Our aim is to respond to your enquiry within 10 working days,
or sooner if we can.
If you haven't already done so you may wish to view information
regarding our products and services on our website at
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
.
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Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
17 November 2008
Dear Mr Robinson,
Thank you for you email of 14 November 2008. I can confirm that in the
Civil Service Codes under 'Standards of Behaviour; Integrity', the last
point in Section 5 states, "You must...comply with the law and uphold
the administration of justice". I can confirm this relates to all
United Kingdom legislation, including Malicious Communications Act 1988.
I hope this helps to clarify our response.
I politely request if you are placing this response on the
whatdotheyknow.com website, that my name is withheld.
Kind regards
[Ordnance Survey]
Customer Service Centre, Ordnance Survey
C454, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU
Phone: +44 (0) 8456 050505
Fax: +44 (0) 23 8079 2615
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/ |
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
17 November 2008
Dear Customer Services,
Thank you for your response and I take it that you acknowledge the
legal liabilities of the Survey with regard to its past
correspondence with myself.
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
17 November 2008
Thank you for your email which has been received by Ordnance Survey.
This is an automatic response acknowledging your email. There is no need
to reply. Our aim is to respond to your enquiry within 10 working days,
or sooner if we can.
If you haven't already done so you may wish to view information
regarding our products and services on our website at
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
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Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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Tel: 08456 050505
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From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
24 November 2008
Dear Mr Robinson,
Further to your email of 17 November 2008, asking if Ordnance Survey
acknowledge the legal liabilities with regard to past correspondence;
this is not a request for information as defined by the Freedom of
Information Act 2000 (FOIA).
Therefore, no response is required by Ordnance Survey under the
legislation and we have closed this matter having provided all the
information requested.
Yours sincerly
Tony Gray
FOI Pracitioner, Ordnance Survey
C454, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU
Phone: +44 (0) 8456 050505
Fax: +44 (0) 23 8079 2615
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
24 November 2008
Dear Customer Services,
Please re-read my FOI request again and note there is no reference
to any "past correspondence" an allusion that within itself seems
false and malicious, given what you say is demonstrably untrue.
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
24 November 2008
Thank you for your email which has been received by Ordnance Survey.
This is an automatic response acknowledging your email. There is no need
to reply. Our aim is to respond to your enquiry within 10 working days,
or sooner if we can.
If you haven't already done so you may wish to view information
regarding our products and services on our website at
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
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This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person.
Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Ordnance Survey
Romsey Road
Southampton SO16 4GU
Tel: 08456 050505
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
24 November 2008
Dear Mr Robinson,
We have revisited the correspondence regarding this matter in
'whatdotheyknow.com' and the use of the words "past correspondence" is a
direct quote from your correspondence published on 17 November.
Consequently, as we consider this matter no longer subject to FOIA we
will not respond further on this matter.
Yours sincerely,
Tony Gray
Freedom Of Information Practitioner
Customer Service Centre, Ordnance Survey
C454, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU
Phone: +44 (0) 8456 050505
Fax: +44 (0) 23 8079 2615
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
24 November 2008
Dear Customer Services,
Perhaps you should revisit my FOI request dated November 11th 2008.
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
24 November 2008
Thank you for your email which has been received by Ordnance Survey.
This is an automatic response acknowledging your email. There is no need
to reply. Our aim is to respond to your enquiry within 10 working days,
or sooner if we can.
If you haven't already done so you may wish to view information
regarding our products and services on our website at
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Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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Southampton SO16 4GU
Tel: 08456 050505
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From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
28 November 2008
Dear Mr. Robinson
Further to your email of 24 November 2008; we have noted your comment
referring us back to your original question. As we have responded in
full to this, we cannot help any further and have closed this request.
Yours sincerely
Tony Gray
FOI Practitioner, Ordnance Survey
C454, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU
Phone: +44 (0) 8456 050505
Fax: +44 (0) 23 8079 2615
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
29 November 2008
Dear Customer Services,
There is no reference to "past correspondence in my FOI request.
which you have not answered.
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
24 December 2008
Dear tony grey
I understand your answer to be that officers of the Survey, as are
all other civil servants in any other government post, responsible
for their statements to the public and are not protected by any
enactment from prosecution when the statements they have made
knowingly or recklessly provided information which they can have no
honest belief in as that information is demonstrably unfounded and
fallacious.
If This is the case I will consider my FOI request as answered.
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
30 December 2008
Dear Tony Grey
Will you please respond to my last enquiry
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
30 December 2008
Seasons Greetings from Ordnance Survey
Thank you for your email which has been received by Ordnance Survey.
This is an automatic response confirming receipt of your communication.
Please do not respond.
Please note that our office is closed from 17:30 December 24 - 08:30
January 2 2008
If you have an urgent query about an order placed via our on-line map
shop (www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure
<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure/...> ), please e-mail [email address]
<mailto:[email address]> During this period we will
run a limited service to answer urgent order queries only.
Our aim is to provide a full response to all enquiries within a maximum
of 10 working days. We will endeavour to resolve your enquiry as soon as
we possibly can.
If you haven't already done so you may wish to view information
regarding our products and services on our website at
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
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Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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Tel: 08456 050505
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
31 December 2008
Dear TONY GREY
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RESPONSE
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
31 December 2008
Seasons Greetings from Ordnance Survey
Thank you for your email which has been received by Ordnance Survey.
This is an automatic response confirming receipt of your communication.
Please do not respond.
Please note that our office is closed from 17:30 December 24 - 08:30
January 2 2008
If you have an urgent query about an order placed via our on-line map
shop (www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure
<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure/...> ), please e-mail [email address]
<mailto:[email address]> During this period we will
run a limited service to answer urgent order queries only.
Our aim is to provide a full response to all enquiries within a maximum
of 10 working days. We will endeavour to resolve your enquiry as soon as
we possibly can.
If you haven't already done so you may wish to view information
regarding our products and services on our website at
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
1 January 2009
Dear TONY GREY
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RESPONSE
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
1 January 2009
Seasons Greetings from Ordnance Survey
Thank you for your email which has been received by Ordnance Survey.
This is an automatic response confirming receipt of your communication.
Please do not respond.
Please note that our office is closed from 17:30 December 24 - 08:30
January 2 2008
If you have an urgent query about an order placed via our on-line map
shop (www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure
<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure/...> ), please e-mail [email address]
<mailto:[email address]> During this period we will
run a limited service to answer urgent order queries only.
Our aim is to provide a full response to all enquiries within a maximum
of 10 working days. We will endeavour to resolve your enquiry as soon as
we possibly can.
If you haven't already done so you may wish to view information
regarding our products and services on our website at
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
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This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person.
Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Ordnance Survey
Romsey Road
Southampton SO16 4GU
Tel: 08456 050505
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
2 January 2009
Dear Tony Grey
I look forward to your response
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
2 January 2009
Seasons Greetings from Ordnance Survey
Thank you for your email which has been received by Ordnance Survey.
This is an automatic response confirming receipt of your communication.
Please do not respond.
Please note that our office is closed from 17:30 December 24 - 08:30
January 2 2008
If you have an urgent query about an order placed via our on-line map
shop (www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure
<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure/...> ), please e-mail [email address]
<mailto:[email address]> During this period we will
run a limited service to answer urgent order queries only.
Our aim is to provide a full response to all enquiries within a maximum
of 10 working days. We will endeavour to resolve your enquiry as soon as
we possibly can.
If you haven't already done so you may wish to view information
regarding our products and services on our website at
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>
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Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Ordnance Survey
Romsey Road
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Tel: 08456 050505
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From: Heather Pearson
Ordnance Survey
2 January 2009
Dear Mr Robinson
Thank you for recent e-mails sent through requesting responses from our
Freedom of Information Practitioner Tony Gray, which have been sent
through during our office closure 24 December - 2 January 2009, as
advised below. These have been passed to me in our Complaints Team
today.
I do appreciate that you will be requiring a response soonest on the
above enquiry but Mr Gray is away from the office until Wednesday 7th
January 2009.
I have forwarded your mails to him today, requesting his response
soonest on his return. I do hope this will help you.
Yours sincerely
Heather
Heather Pearson
Customer Complaints Officer,
Customer Service Centre, Ordnance Survey
C454, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU
Phone: +44 (0) 2380 305685 Fax: +44 (0) 23 80792615
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
3 January 2009
Dear Heather Pearson,
I LOOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RESPONSE
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: Heather Pearson
Ordnance Survey
3 January 2009
I am currently out of the office returning 6 January 2009 and my e-mails will not be checked in my absence. If your enquiry is urgent please contact my colleagues in customer services [Ordnance Survey request email], tel: 08456 05 05 05
Many thanks Heather Pearson
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Thank you for your cooperation.
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Tel: 08456 050505
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
3 January 2009
Dear Heather Pearson,
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RESPONSE
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
10 January 2009
Dear Heather Pearson,
I REQUEST AN INTERNAL REVIEW
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
10 January 2009
Dear HEATHER PEARSON
FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
ALMOST EVERYTHING I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO EXTRACT FROM THE MANY
AUTHORITIES OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS OR SO IS ROOTED IN A FALSE
INSURANCE CLAIM REFERENCED W215732 DATED 1993, A CLAIM ALLEGEDLY
MADE BY ME AGAINST SEFTON COUNCIL FOR THE DEMOLITION OF NONE
EXISTENT BUILDINGS, AND BECAUSE OF THAT FALSE CLAIM, MANY
"AUTHORITIES" HAVE BEEN DRAWN IN AND BECOME INSTRUMENTAL IN
ASSISTING SEFTON IN THE CONCEALMENT OF, OR THE UPHOLDING OF THIS
INANE UNFOUNDED CLAIM, AND THE OTHER FRAUDULENT CLAIMS THAT FLOWED
FROM IT.
THIS IS INEVITABLY DONE BY "AUTHORITIES" EITHER PROVIDING ME WITH
FALLACIOUS INFORMATION WHICH, WILL NOT, EVEN WHEN THE "AUTHORITIES"
ARE CONFRONTED WITH THE EVIDENCE OF ITS UNTENABILITY ADMIT ITS
FALLACIOUS, AND CENSURE ME FOR ATTEMPTING TO HAVE IT DISCLOSED OR
PASS IT AROUND LIKE THE BAD SMELL IT IS IN THE HOPE IT WILL NOT
COME BACK, OR LIKE THE IC AND SEFTON, ACT AS IF IT IS I WHO AM IN
THE WRONG AND VEXATIOUS FOR DARING TO ASK FOR THE INFORMATION AGAIN
AND AGAIN AND AGAIN WITH NO CONSTRUCTIVE RESPONSE BEING GIVEN OR,
BEING TOLD THAT I HAVE BEEN GIVENTHE INFORMATION.
AUTHORISES LIKE THE IC, WHO DENIED ME OF MY RIGHT TO INFORMATION ON
SEFTON'S BEHALF, CULMINATING WITH THE PROVISION OF THE CONTENTION
THAT IT WAS NOT HELD IN A 'RELEVANT FILING SYSTEM' WHEN, SEFTON -
IF NOT THE COMMISSION - KNEW, IT WAS NOT HELD AT ALL AS IT WAS ,
APART FROM A HANDFUL OF MY PERSONAL INFORMATION FROM 1994, NONE
EXISTENT.
THE COVERT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO SEFTON BY THE COMMISSION,
ALLOWED SEFTON TO UPHOLD THE FALLACIOUS CONTENTION THAT I MADE AN
INSURANCE CLAIM AGAINST SEFTON IN 1993 TO REMAIN THE PRIME CAUSE OF
WHY MY HOUSE HAS A CHARGE ON IT BY ROYAL & SUNALLIANCE AND I OWE
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF POUNDS TO SEFTON COUNCIL AND OTHER PARTIES WHO
HAVE AIDED THEM, AGAIN, ALL DUE TO CLAIM W215732 DATED 1993.
IF THE REAL BILL TO THE PUBLIC FOR EVERTHING THAT HAS FLOWED FROM
THAT FALSE CLAIM, POSSIBLE FRAUDULENT SALE OF LAND AND TIME WASTED,
WAS ADDED UP. IT MUST BE IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF POUNDS BY
NOW WITH NO END IN SIGHT WITHOUT DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION.
MY PERSONAL INFORMATION HAS BEEN CYNICALLY PASSED FROM ONE
AUTHORITY TO ANOTHER FOR YEARS, INCLUDING PASSING BETWEEN THE IC
AND SEFTON MBC TO MY HUGE DISADVANTAGE AND COST.
THE ONLY WEAPON A CITIZEN HAS IS ACCURATE INFORMATION TO DEFEAT
AUTHORITIES WHO HAVE A HORRIBLE EFFECTS ON HIS HIS LIFE.
IT IS THEREFORE A GRIM IRONY THAT THE BODY CHARGED WITH THE
PROVISION OF INFORMATION, SEEKS TO DENY ITS ACCESS ON THE SAME
BASIS AS SEFTON AND THE COURTS - VEXATION.
NOTWITHSTANDING THE VEXATION I HAVE BEEN PUT TO BY THE ACTIVITIES
OF BOTH "AUTHORITIES NONE DISCLOSURE OF MY PERSONAL DATA AT THE
RELEVANT TIME.
I KNOW ITS HARD FOR A PERSON TO CONTEMPLATE DISMISSLE FROM YOUR JOB
AND PERHAPS CRIMINAL CHARGES, BUT THATS NOT MY FAULT AS THAT PERSON
CHOSE TO DO AS HE, OR SHE DID.
NOR SHOULD IT BE SEEN TO BE BY THE CONSTANT DENIAL OF ONE SIMPLE
TRUTH THAT WILL UNDO THE MATTER.
THAT SIMPLE TRUTH LIES AT THE HEART OF THE MATTER AND IS:
HOW COULD I HAVE MADE A LEGITIMATE CLAIM FOR THE DEMOLITION OF NONE
EXISTENT BUILDINGS WHEN I LIVED IN A MID TERRACE LOCATION IN LIME
GROVE ?
WHICH LEADS TO, THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE LAND REGISTRY PROVIDING ME
WITH FALSE TITLE PLANS AND SUPPORT THAT 19 AND 21 LIME GROVE WERE
ADJOINED AND THE OS DENYING THEIR OWN MAPPING.
TURNING TO YOUR E-MAIL BELOW FEIGNING IGNORANCE OF THE CONSTANT
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE COMMISSION FOR YEARS:
Thank you for your correspondence dated 24 December, however it is
not clear what further information you are seeking. In your email
you ask how we can conclude that a request can be deemed to be
vexatious under the FOIA without knowing the identity of “an
authority.” In your email of 19 December you had asked us to
“please confirm or deny that a first time request, that has never
been asked before and, therefore, never been answered within the
confines of the Act, can be vexatious under any section of the
Act.” This is a general question about the Act itself and not about
the decision of a particular public authority and thus in answering
it we would not need to know the identity of any authority as the
Act applies the same to all public authorities.
TO ANSWER PART OF THAT QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE FOIA AND DPA:
Two of he "authority" were the "IC's" Mr Andrew Damm's who engaged
in correspondence with the other "authority" Sefton Council
regarding two boxes of my data allegedly from 1994 held by Sefton.
Ultimately Sefton used and passed onto Royal & SunAlliance, the
contention - given to them by Mr Damms - that my information from
1994 fell under the 'Durant' ruling as it was not held in a
relevant filing system and consisting of some 700 documents held by
Sefton's Technical Services and Insurance Sections.
The evidence provided by Mr Damns was referred to by myself in
claim W215732 on April 16th 2005 preventing Sefton from using it
with regard to 'Durant' it in the same manner as Royal &
SunAlliance had done in February 2005 to deny me access to my
personal data held by them regarding another fraudulent claim
RR98XN dated January 17th 1994 and, appear to have persuaded two
District Judge's, to strike out my claims against both Sefton and
Royal & SunAlliance on the basis of 'Durant" and deny me access to
my personal information to the font of my January 1994 'claims'.
I HAVE RECENTLY MADE FIRST TIME FOI REQUESTS TO THE IC, AND SEFTON
REGARDING THE TIME WHEN THE PROPER DISCLOSURE TO ME SHOULD HAVE
BEEN MADE REGARDING THEIR "COVERT CORRESPONDENCE" AND MEETINGS THEM
REGARDING MY DPA APPLICATION - ALLEGEDLY REGARDING 700 DOCUMENTS
DATED 1994.
BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE IC NOW RELY ON EACH OTHER NOT TO CONFIRM
OR DENY WHAT IN FACT THEY KNOW AND IT WILL COME TO TRANSPIRE THAT
ANY ACTION SEFTON TAKE IN NOT RESPONDING TO MY FOI REQUESTS, NOT
ONLY WILL, BUT MUST, BE SUPPORTED BY THE IC AS IT HAS BEEN IN THE
PAST AND WHO KNOWS - EVEN NOW THERE MAY BE COVERT INFORMATION
FLOWING BETWEEN THE IC AND THE COUNCIL AGAIN IN PREPARATION.
FOR YOUR FURTHER INFORMATION - SOME CORRESPONDENCE FROM 2003 TO
2005 REGARDING THESE 700 DOCUMENTS NOT HELD IN A "RELATIVE FILING
SYSTEM" AND THE PERNICIOUS EFFECT OF THE CONCEALMENT OF WHAT THE IC
AND SEFTON KNEW, AND COLLUDED ABOUT DURING THAT TIME.
As you see below I am reliant on the information being fed to me by
the being true.
LETTER TO SEFTONS MR HUFF APRIL 10TH 2003
I still await a response to my allegations of breaches of the act
which was promised to me by the Councils Legal Director on March
4th 2003. I would point out that there are many letters to and from
the Housing and Environmental Departments missing from my data.
Will you send them? I most especially request a copy of my letter
to the Council dated 17/12/98 and responded to by DSOM/402/98/CG on
22/12/98. RSVP
LETTER TO SEFTONS MR HUFF MAY 25TH 2003
I refer you to past correspondence regarding the assertion by the
Council I am not entitled to data you hold on me. I have been
informed by the information commission today that you are in breach
of the act. I have requested ALL of the information I am entitled
to and this has not been provided. I have also been told my
assertions, you have breached the act, would be addressed, this has
not occurred. I have requested an explanation of this and have
received none. I contend that the information I seek is being
withheld against my right to obtain it with the purpose of avoiding
censure. I formally request you address these matters and inform me
why you believe I am not entitled to the information I have
requested and, to address the matter of breaches of the act.
LETTER TO MR HUFF JUNE 13TH 2003
With regard to my recent application under The Data Protection Act,
I formally request that you provide me with ALL copies of my
correspondence with the following Council Departments between the
dates I now provide. I am told by The Information Commission that
you cannot assume I have my own copies. I request copies of my
correspondence with:
The Planning Department between September 1999 and the present.
The Environmental Protection Department (Mr Cannon) between May
2001 and December 2002.
The Housing Department between December 2001 and December 2002.
Building Control Services (Mr Woods and Mr Edgerton and Mr Heywood
CEO - related to this correspondence) between September and
November 2000 also that to Ms Gillard, Housing Maintenance, Pendle
Drive, Litherland.
I still await a copy of my letter to the Council dated 17/12/98
which was answered by Mr Mc Lennan on December 22nd 1998, ref:
DSMO/402/98/CG.
I look forward to the provision of these copies and a response to
my correspondence with you dated 10/4/03 - 25/5/03 - 15/5/03.
I REMIND YOU THAT THE DATA (MUCH OF IT FALSE) YOU HOLD WITH REGARD
TO MYSELF IS PART OF A 'SET' AND PARTS OF IT CANNOT BE WITHHELD, I
THEREFORE REQUEST ALL OF MY CORRESPONDENCE FROM 1994 TO MR BOARDMAN
AND MR BARR BE COPIES TO ME. [6 items]
NB I would also request any 'fax' messages and memos associated
with the above on the basis that these are also part of a 'set' of
data. I also request ALL documents to and from third parties with
regard to the above.
I wish to complain that some documents sent to me already have been
'cropped', this appears to have been done to remove information
from them. The normal copying process does not reduce the size of
the copy paper.
LETTER TO MR HUFF NOVEMBER 1ST 2003: DATA PROTECTION FORMAL REQUEST
FOR DATA
With regard to my letter to you dated June 31st 2003 I request you
send me the data I requested, and am entitled to. BY LAW.
WITH REGARD TO THE DATA FROM 1994 I REQUEST THAT YOU SEND ME COPIES
OF MY LETTERS TO SMBC WHICH WERE ACKNOWLEDGED ON FEBRUARY 28TH 1994
BY MRB/HMB/HSG1197AR. AND FROM APRIL 6TH 1994 ACKNOWLEDGED BY
MRB/HSG/1197AR DATED APRIL 15TH 1994.
WITH REGARD TO A CLAIM - I ALLEGEDLY MADE IN 1993 AGAINST SMBC
UNDER POLICY: SEFPPL93 WITH AON CLAIMS MANAGERS - AND WHICH IS ALSO
KNOWN BY THE REFERENCE W215732 - ROBINSON. I REQUEST COPIES OF ANY
CORRESPONDENCE WITH AON* BETWEEN AUGUST 1993 AND MARCH 1996 WHICH
REFERS TO CLAIM REFERENCE W215732 - ROBINSON.
I also request details of a claim said - by Mr Barr, ref:
GRB/JBJ/HSG1187 and dated 12th January 2000 - to have been "settled
off" in August 1997, which was made by me against SMBC with regard
to my gable wall related to demolition of a "nib wall."
* Aon/Rollin Hudig Hall.
LETTER FILED AT COURT IN CLAIM LV360271 ROBINSON V SEFTON MBC ON
APRIL 15TH 2005
RELEVANT FILING SYSTEM - INFORMATION COMMISSION
WITH REGARD TO THE DATA REFERRED TO IN THE LETTER WRITTEN TO THE
COURT ON OCTOBER 11TH 2004 BY MR GIBSON. THE DATA THAT THE
INFORMATION COMMISSION AFFIRM IS NOT HELD IN A RELEVANT FILING
SYSTEM IS SOLELY THAT FROM 1994. IT APPEARS THAT THIS DATA HAS
ALLEGEDLY BEEN 'LOST' BY THE COUNCIL IN ANY CASE. THE INFORMATION
COMMISSION CONFIRMS TO ME THAT MY OWN CORRESPONDENCE CANNOT BE
WITHHELD FROM ME - WHICH IS THE CASE REGARDING MY CORRESPONDENCE
WITH THE COUNCIL OF 1994. SEFTON HAVE NOT CONFIRMED TO THE COURT
THEY HAVE THIS CORRESPONDENCE FROM 1994.
THE INFORMATION COMMISSION HAS NOT MADE ANY ASSESSMENT REGARDING
DATA AFTER 1994. THEIR VIEW, WITH REGARD TO THE NUMBERED
DOCUMENTATION I CLAIMED I HAD NOT HAD, IS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE
PROVIDED IT TO ME IN AN UN-NUMBERED FORM. THIS VIEW IS STATED TO ME
BY THE INFORMATION COMMISSION IN A LETTER DATED NOVEMBER 25TH 2003
AND SEEMINGLY CONFIRMED BY MYSELF, AS DURING THE BUILDING OF THE
FILE FOR THE COURT CASE, I STRIPPED ALL THE HUNDRED OF DOCUMENTS
THAT COMPRISE MY OWN FILES, COMPLAINT FILES AND VARIOUS
CORRESPONDENCES, DURING THE COURSE OF WHICH I DISCOVERED MANY MORE
COPY DOCUMENTS THAT INDEED I DO HAVE IN NUMBERED, TWICE NUMBERED
WITH DIFFERENT NUMBERS, AND UN - NUMBERED FORM. FROM WHAT I NOW
HAVE, IT IS POSSIBLE TO EXTRAPOLATE SOME OF THE NUMBERED DOCUMENTS
I DO NOT HAVE.
THE COUNCIL STATE A LIST OF NUMBERED DOCUMENTS HAD BEEN SENT TO THE
INFORMATION COMMISSION. THIS MAY HAVE CONFIRMED THE COMMISSIONERS
VIEW I HAD COPIES OF THEM. THE DOCUMENTS BETWEEN OCTOBER 1993 AND
JANUARY 1995 ARE NOT NUMBERED.
14 UNDISCLOSED TO ME, DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO AUGUST 1993 ARE NUMBERED.
THE INFORMATION COMMISSIONS LETTER TO ME OF NOVEMBER 25TH 2003, MAY
WELL HAVE BEEN COPIED TO SEFTON MBC AS, ON THAT DATE MR GIBSON
WROTE TO ME STATING THAT, WITH REGARD TO "MY FILE" HE WANTED TO
MEET ME REGARDING LETTERS I HAD WRITTEN TO THE LEGAL AND TECHNICAL
SERVICES DIRECTORS ON NOVEMBER 20TH 2003 - COPIES OF WHICH I
ATTACH.
WITH REGARD TO DATA PROVIDED TO ME BY ROYAL & SUNALLIANCES
HOXWORTH,
COUNCIL DOCUMENTATION REGARDING THE KEPLER STREET DEVELOPMENT,
WHICH I AM NOT ENTITLED TO UNDER THE DATA PROTECTION ACT EMERGED.
IT MAY WELL BE THAT THIS IS THE DATA THAT THE COUNCIL REFER TO AS
THAT OF 1994.
IN SHORT, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MY CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE
INFORMATION COMMISSION, IS THAT.
NO DATA REGARDING FALSE CLAIMS ALLEGEDLY MADE BY MYSELF ARE
ASSESSED BY THE INFORMATION COMMISSION TO BE EXEMPT UNDER THE ACT.
THIS IS CONFIRMED IN THEIR LETTER TO ME DATED AUGUST 6TH 2002 WHICH
I SUBMITTED TO THE COURT ON DECEMBER 17TH 2003 TO PROVE THE COURT
HAD JURISDICTION IN MY CLAIM.
WITH REGARD TO THE DATA SEFTON HOLD IN THEIR CARDBOARD BOXES IT
APPEARS - AS WITH THE DATA FROM 1994 - THAT THIS DATA FORMS NO PART
OF THE DATA SUPPLIED TO ME UNDER THE ACT BECAUSE IT IS PRIVILEGED
AND NOT NUMBERED.
IT ALSO APPEARS THAT THE COUNCILS MISLEADING ASSERTION THAT THE
INFORMATION COMMISSION ALLEGEDLY ENDORSED THE VIEW THAT 'NO DATA'
WAS HELD IN A RELEVANT FILING SYSTEM - PROVIDED TO THE COURT ON
OCTOBER 11TH 2004 AFTER THE SEFTON AND ROYAL & SUNALLIANCE CASES
HAD BEEN COMBINED - IS THE 'EVIDENCE' ROYAL & SUNALLIANCE RELIED ON
WITH REGARD TO THE 'DURANT CASE' IN MY CLAIM AGAINST THEM.
CLEARLY THIS ALLEGED EVIDENCE WAS NOT, NOR COULD BE, EVIDENCE
RELIED ON IN ANY APPLICATION TO THE COURT PRIOR TO OCTOBER 11TH
2004 BY EITHER DEFENDANT.
SEFTON, BY NEVER MAKING AN APPLICATION OR DEFENCE, HAVE NEVER
STATED ANYTHING THEY RELY ON AS EVIDENCE.
I WILL HAND DELIVER A COPY OF THIS LETTER TO SEFTON MBC.
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
26 January 2009
Dear Heather Pearson,
I REFER YOU TO THE APHORISM:
“IF YOU WISH TO FIND THE CRIMINALS, DON’T FOLLOW THE CRIMINALS,
FOLLOW THE MONEY.”
FOR THE MONEY READ THE LAND
In 1962: Crosby Council, initiated a compulsory purchase order to
buy a plot of land to the south of Lime Grove consisting of Maple
Grove, Willow Grove, Bangor Street and Beaumaris Street which is
shown on OS SJ3396.
This land was subsequently filed under title LA45343 at the Land
Registry.
In December 1964: Land to the north of Lime Grove, bought under a
compulsory purchase order by Crosby Council, was registered under
title LA45086 at the Land Registry using OS SJ3396 dated 1955.
By 1968: Numerous streets to the north of 19 Lime Grove, including
21 Lime Grove, had been demolished, the land cleared, and
maisonettes built on it. This land became known as the Kepler
Street Estate.
One of the maisonette blocks, 21 to 39 Lime Grove, was built some 5
metres from the gable wall of 19 Lime Grove.
The level of the land adjacent to 19 Lime Grove was consequently
lowered by Crosby Council’s contractors to accommodate the building
of these maisonettes, and the support that this land had previously
given to 19 Lime Groves gable wall was removed and, in so doing,
exposed the shallow footing of part of 19 Lime Grove’s gable wall.
Crosby Council’s building contractors, Mathew and Mumby,
subsequently replaced the former support with two Party Boundary
Structures in the forms of what are known as, the ‘screen wall' and
the 'old footings' some 700mm square which were constructed
abutting the gable wall of 19 Lime Grove around 1968.
The first and most significant of these structures being the ‘old
footings.’ The term 'old footings' a misnomer as they 'footed'
nothing and were in fact a ‘buttress.’ They remain in place today
and, with the land they stand on, are, and have been since 1994,
the property of Maritime Housing Association.
The second was a wall built abutting the gable wall of 19 Lime
Grove around its centre, and extending to abut the gable wall of
the maisonette block, 21 to 39 Lime Grove near its front elevation.
The location of this wall is of some significance as it was
constructed at the point where the footings of the gable wall
descend into a cellar and thus obviate the need for support beyond
that point.
Clearly those structures belonged to Crosby Council.
This is borne out by the fact that the brick cladding of the gable
wall of the maisonettes was, the same brick as used to construct
the screen wall, and obviously, both structures stood on Crosby
Council’s land.
The structure the ‘screen wall’ was first shown on OS SJ3396 in
October 1969, and by October 1989, (according to a ruling in the
House of Lords) 19 Lime Grove had obtained a legal right to the
support it gave.
Beyond the rear of the screen wall where, the footings were exposed
by the excavation of the land, is where the old footings abutted
it, and from there commenced, it is abundantly clear that no other
purpose can be attributed to this constructions other than to give
support to the gable wall of 19 Lime Grove and, that purpose, in
the absence of any other, would be obvious to an engineer,
architect, surveyor or any competent builder.
This contention is borne out by the fact that the old footings
extend beyond the gable wall and continue to give support not only
to the gable wall but also to the boundary wall which, extends some
four metres from the gable wall.
The ‘old footings’ are still in situ but, have never been recorded
on an OS map. They could not be removed at any time after 1984
without causing structural damage to my property.
In 1973: A new version of OS SJ3396 was drawn which did not
included the Star of the Sea Junior School, built in 1974, but did
included the maisonettes 21 to 39 Lime Grove with the boundary
structure, the 'screen wall' still shown running at right angles
between the respective gable walls of 19, and 21 to 39 Lime Grove.
In 1978: A new version of OS SJ3396 was drawn which included the
Star of the Sea Junior School, the maisonettes 21 to 39 Lime Grove
with the boundary structure, the 'screen wall' still shown running
at right angles between the respective gable walls of 19, and 21 to
39 Lime Grove.
In March 1977: The land, known as the Kepler Street Estate, filed
at the Land Registry in 1964 under the title number LA45343 using
the 1969 OS SJ3396 map: had removed from it a parcel of land
re-registered under title MS351603 which included the maisonettes
21 to 39 Lime Grove with the boundary structure, the 'screen wall'
still shown running at right angles between the respective gable
walls of 19, and 21 to 39 Lime Grove.
In April 1977 The land filed at the Land Registry under title
number LA45343 using OS SJ3396 dated 1966: had removed from it two
parcels of land that were also re-registered under title MS351603.
The 1966 OS SJ3396 did not include the maisonettes 21 to 39 Lime
Grove with the boundary structure, the 'screen wall' shown running
at right angles between the respective gable walls of 19, and 21 to
39 Lime Grove, because in 1966 they had not been built.
In 1984/5 Sefton Council revamped the maisonettes including 21 to
39 Lime Grove and reduced the screen wall from some 5 metres long
to a 'nib wall' some 1.5 metres long and built a pier on its end.
Clearly Sefton Council also attached some significance to the
screen wall’s role of support to my gable wall, and just as
clearly, their actions prove that they owned it by virtue of them
reducing and strengthening it, something Maritime Housing
Association seemed unaware of, because when they wrote to me on
October 5th 1999 - in response to a photograph of the nib wall in
situ, taken by Sefton Council (their appointed agents) on March
14th 1994 during a survey which, in June 2000, Maritime did know
about and, which they also (then, if not before) knew was prior to
the demolition of the maisonette block 21 to 39 Lime Grove - they
stated:
“Sefton as our agent, are responsible for controlling building
operations on our behalf, but as I have already said, demolition
was still taking place up to September 1994, which had nothing to
do with Maritime…looking at the photograph you have sent me I
notice what appears to be either a newly built brick pier attached
to your wall, or an old pier that has been repointed…I would
question who constructed, or repointed, the brick pier. ”
In 1989: A new version of OS SJ3396 was drawn showing no screen
wall between 19 and 21 to 39 Lime Grove.
On August 13th 1993: Planning Permission for:
“Erection of single story and 2 storey dwellings after demolition
of the existing maisonettes.”
Was granted to Maritime Housing Association.
On September 25th 1992: The three titles, taken from Titles LA54086
and LA45343, and filed under MS351603, were Registered separately
to Sefton MBC at Bootle Town Hall, and Southport Town Hall.
On October 28th 1993: Sefton Council’s Housing Standing Sub
Committee resolved, that:
“Demolition of maisonette blocks at Kepler Street prior to
development by Maritime Housing Association. (1) That the
appropriate officer be authorised to implement the demolition works
by acceptance of the tender of GTB Demolition company…in the sum of
£95,693 subject to the land being acquired by Maritime Housing
Association by December 31st 1993. That subject to (1) above the
Borough Property Services Officer be authorised to issue a letter
of intent in advance of formal contract documentation.”
On December 16th 1992: Sefton Council’s Housing Standing Sub
Committee considered the report of the Borough Property Services
Officer recommending the transfer of land for two new build sites
to Maritime Housing Association.
On December 13th 1993: A new version of OS SJ3396 was drawn showing
no screen wall between 19 and 21 to 39 Lime Grove.
On December 24th 1993 Sefton Council and Maritime Housing
Association, after taxation, signed and sealed the transfer
documents for the sale of 3.5 acres of land under titles 1. (a)
LA45086 and (b) LA45343.
This land consisted of the three plots filed in March and April
1977 with the Land Registry under the title numbers LA45086 and
LA45343 re-referenced to Sefton on September 25th 1992 which, the
transfer document shows were to be given a new title number with
another two parcels of land, i.e.:
(c) the land comprised in an agreement dated 7 August 1967 made
between Liverpool Roman Catholic Archdiocese & Trustees
Incorporating (1) and the Mayor Aldermen and Burgesses of the
Borough of Crosby.
(d) the land comprised in a Statutory Declaration dated December
16th 1993 made by Michael Scott.
There were on December 24th 1993, to my knowledge, five distinct OS
SJ3396, maps of the Kepler Street estate available, they were:
The first dated October 1969 – showing the screen wall
The Second dated 1973 - showing the screen wall
The third dated 1978 – showing the screen wall
The fourth dated 1989 – showing no screen wall
The fifth dated December 13th 1993 – showing no screen wall
Bound with the transfer documents was a ‘cut and pasted’ version of
OS map SJ3396 comprising of: an ‘outer section’ being OS SJ3396
dated 1978 showing the Star of the Sea School and,
an ‘inner section’ depicting the land filed under titles MS351603,
united by a section of public highway named Maple Close.
The screen wall, despite being on both of the versions of OS SJ3396
used in the forgery, had been erased from this transfer map.
The altered OS map SJ3396 provided for sale of the land is a forged
instrument under s.8. (1) (a) and 9 (2) of the Forgery and
Counterfeiting Act 1981 as it does not depict the presence of the
party Boundary Structure 'the screen wall' and is clearly
calculated to deceive.
This document also breaches s. 183 (1) of the Law of Property Act
1925 as neither Sefton or Maritime showed "due diligence" in the
sale of the land in breach of s. 2 of the Property Misdescriptions
Act 1991.
At 2, of the transfer document it is stated:
“It is agreed between the Council and the Association that any
boundary structure now or hereafter constructed within 80 years of
the date herein between the property herby transferred and the
adjoining land of the Council are party boundary structures and are
maintainable and repairable as such.”
This land is identified at 3, of the transfer documents as land
referenced by Planning Permission as 93/03897/S. this reference was
given to me by Sefton Council’s Planning Department as land
provided for: “Erection of single story and 2 storey dwellings
after demolition of the existing maisonettes.”
This permission was the permission granted on August 13th 1993.
The above dwellings are all now in situ on the land registered to
Sefton Council under title MS351603 on September 25th 1992, taken
from title LA43086 1977.
These dwellings are also identified in a ‘memo’ from Sefton’s Mr
Barr, to Sefton’s Mr Williams: Referenced HSG 1188/2, and dated
November 12th 1999 in which Mr Barr states, with regard to 19 Lime
Grove – with a twist as to responsibility:
“This particular dwelling lies within an area which was redeveloped
by the Council in conjunction with Maritime Housing Association
during the period January 1994 to September 1995. The work
basically involved the demolition of 7 blocks of 4 storey
maisonettes and the construction of 49 new 2 storey traditionally
built houses as part of the City Challenge program relating to
relocation of residents of the former Rimrose Housing Estate.”
And further, with another twist:
On November 16th 1999, Fawley Construction, Maritime’s Building
contractor, wrote the following to me:
1. “Our site plan 417/01 was adapted from Sefton Council’s drawing
HSG 1187.1A which did not show a nib wall attached to your
property, therefore one was not included on our drawing submitted
for planning approval.”
2. Drawing HSG 1187, a used as part of the transfer map, and is
marked as a Sefton Planning Department drawing based on OS SJ3396
dated 1978, which has had the screen wall erased from it.
3. This clearly shows that Sefton and Fawley, if not Maritime, had
a drawing, and knowledge, at the planning stage of the development
in August 1993 that showed no nib wall abutting my gable wall. All
three had contractual obligations to each other.
On August 31st 1994 the land shown on the forged OS map used to
transfer the land at both Kepler Street, shown on title LA45086,
and Maple Grove, shown on LA45343 which was united by the public
highway, Maple Close, was registered by the Land Registry under
title MS351603 to Maritime Housing, at 2, of the office copy of the
Property Register dated February 3rd 2006, it states:
“2. (21.01.1994) A transfer of the land in this title dated 24
December 1993 made between (1) The metropolitan Borough of Sefton
and (2) Maritime Housing Association Limited contains the following
provision:-
2, It is agreed between the Council and the Association that any
boundary structure now or hereafter constructed within 80 years of
the date herein between the property herby transferred and the
adjoining land of the Council are party boundary structures and are
maintainable and repairable as such.”
The title map that accompanies this title is a forgery which again,
like the transfer map is composed of two versions of OS SJ3386 cut
and pasted together, this time, the outer section is that of OS
SJ3396 dated 1984 showing the Star of the Sea junior school, and
the inner section, that of OS SJ3396 dated 1969, clumsily overlaid
on it which has, amongst other things, removed the pavement between
Seaforth Road and 19 Lime Grove and the entire pavement from
Seaforth Road and the opposite side of Lime Grove through to Maple
Close from it.
This title map is marked: Crown copyright 1975.
The altered OS map SJ3396 draw by the Land Registry for
registration of the land is a forged instrument under s.8. (1) (a)
and 9 (2) of the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981 as it does not
depicts the presence of the party Boundary Structure 'the screen
wall' and is clearly calculated to deceive.
This document also breaches s. 183 (1) of the Law of Property Act
1925 as the Registry did not show "due diligence" in the production
of this title map and also breach of s. 2 of the Property
Misdescriptions Act 1991.
Yours sincerely,
fred robinson
From: Customer Services
Ordnance Survey
28 January 2009
Our Ref: SAP 70181
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From: fred robinson (Account suspended)
8 February 2009
Dear TONY HARRIS
YOUR RESPONSE:
"THE SURVEY HAS PROVIDED ME WITH A FULL ANSWER TO YOUR ORIGINAL
REQUEST".
MY ORIGINAL REQUEST:
Will you confirm or deny that Officers of the survey are subject to
S. 1 (1) (a) (iii) of the Malicious Communications Act.
IS NOT ANSWERED BY THE ABOVE.
Yours sincerely
fred robinson
Mr Ormerod left an annotation ( 9 February 2009)
It was answered a long time ago (14th November), when they said:
"...As a consequence Ordnance Survey employees
must comply with the requirements of the Malicious Communications Act 1988."
If you'd stopped ranting for a moment to actually read the response you wouldn't have had to waste everybody's time by subsequently bombarding them with further lengthy ramblings.
Things to do with this request
- Add an annotation (to help the requester or others)
- Download a zip file of all correspondence
Make and explore Freedom of Information requests






Francis Davey left an annotation ( 3 January 2009)
As it happens the authority appear to have answered the original question, although their answer would not be authoritative in any case.
Link to this