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William Old made this Freedom of Information request to Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)
The request was successful.
From: William Old
6 February 2009
Dear Sir or Madam,
My enquiry relates to your force policy for the situation where an
officer has been “temporarily promoted” to a higher rank (i.e. is
not “acting-up”, thereby receiving a “temporary salary” as provided
for in Annex I to Regulation 27 of the Police Regulations 2003),
has in due course reverted to his or her substantive rank, and has
subsequently been promoted again (whether substantively or again
only temporarily).
My request is for:
(a) any force policy or procedure document from which it would be
determined whether such an officer’s salary would take account of
that previous period in the higher rank – in accordance with
Reg.24(2) – or would alternatively be re-started back at the lowest
salary scale point for the higher rank, at the commencement of each
and every period of service in that higher rank; and...
(b) any force policy or procedure document that reported,
considered or reviewed the implications of the decision in Gill v
Chief Constable of Merseyside [Liverpool County Court, judgement
given on 28 August 2007], in which unequivocal judgement was given
against Merseyside Police by HH Judge Platts because the latter
procedure (as referred to above) is unlawful and does not comply
with Regulation 24(2).
Yours faithfully,
William Old
Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)
10 February 2009
Dear Mr Old,
Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2009020002184
I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 6 February 2009. I note you
seek access to the following information:
"My enquiry relates to your force policy for the situation where an
officer has been “temporarily promoted” to a higher rank (i.e. is
not “acting-up”, thereby receiving a “temporary salary” as
provided for in Annex I to Regulation 27 of the Police Regulations
2003), has in due course reverted to his or her substantive rank, and
has subsequently been promoted again (whether substantively or again
only temporarily). My request is for: (a) any force policy or
procedure document from which it would be determined whether such an
officer’s salary would take account of that previous period in the
higher rank – in accordance with Reg.24(2) – or would
alternatively be re-started back at the lowest salary scale point for
the higher rank, at the commencement of each and every period of
service in that higher rank; and... (b) any force policy or procedure
document that reported, considered or reviewed the implications of the
decision in Gill v Chief Constable of Merseyside [Liverpool County
Court, judgement given on 28 August 2007], in which unequivocal
judgement was given against Merseyside Police by HH Judge Platts
because the latter procedure (as referred to above) is unlawful and
does not comply with Regulation 24(2)."
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Policy and Support Officer
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From: William Old
7 March 2009
Dear Sir or Madam,
I note that the Metropolitan Police has failed to comply with its
statutory responsibilities under the Act, and I will now write to
the Information Commissioner to inform him of your failure to
comply and for a ruling on any enforcement action necessary as a
consequence.
Yours sincerely,
William Old
Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)
10 March 2009
Dear Mr. Old
Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2009020002184
I write in connection with your request for information, which was
received by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 06/02/2009. I note
you seek access to the following information:
QUESTION
My enquiry relates to your force policy for the situation where an officer
has been ***temporarily promoted*** to a higher rank (i.e. is not
***acting-up***, thereby receiving a ***temporary salary*** as provided
for in Annex I to Regulation 27 of the Police Regulations 2003), has in
due course reverted to his or her substantive rank, and has subsequently
been promoted again (whether substantively or again only temporarily).
My request is for:
(a) any force policy or procedure document from which it would be
determined whether such an officer***s salary would take account of
that previous period in the higher rank *** in accordance with Reg.24(2)
*** or would alternatively be re-started back at the lowest salary scale
point for the higher rank, at the commencement of each and every period of
service in that higher rank; and...
(b) any force policy or procedure document that reported, considered or
reviewed the implications of the decision in Gill v Chief Constable of
Merseyside [Liverpool County Court, judgement given on 28 August 2007], in
which unequivocal judgement was given against Merseyside Police by HH
Judge Platts because the latter procedure (as referred to above) is
unlawful and does not comply with Regulation 24(2).
Following receipt of your request searches were conducted within the MPS
to locate information relevant to your request.
EXTENT OF SEARCHES TO LOCATE INFORMATION
To locate the information relevant to your request searches were conducted
within Human Resources.
RESULT OF SEARCHES
The searches located records relevant to your request.
DECISION
I have today decided to:
* Disclose records numbered 1 in full;
* Unable to answer question 2 as No Information is Held by the MPS
Please find attached your copies of records.
The Police Negotiating Board (PNB) website publishes a circular
relating to Acting up, Temporary Promotion and CRTP and Pension
arrangements:
http://www.lge.gov.uk/lge/aio/413360
COMPLAINT RIGHTS
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paper entitled Complaint Rights which explains how to make a
complaint.
Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please
contact me on 020 7161 0579 or at the address at the top of this
letter, quoting the reference number above.
Yours sincerely
James Dowman
FOI Manager/Analyst
In complying with their statutory duty under sections 1 and 11 of the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 to release the enclosed information,
the Metropolitan Police Service will not breach the Copyright, Designs
and Patents Act 1988. However, the rights of the copyright owner of
the enclosed information will continue to be protected by law.
Applications for the copyright owner's written permission to
reproduce any part of the attached information should be addressed to
MPS Directorate of Legal Services, 1st Floor (Victoria Block), New
Scotland Yard, Victoria, London, SW1H 0BG.
COMPLAINT RIGHTS
Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think
the decision is incorrect?
You have the right to require the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) to
review their decision.
Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome and encouraged to
discuss the decision with the case officer that dealt with your
request.
Ask to have the decision looked at again ***
The quickest and easiest way to have the decision looked at again is
to telephone the case officer that is nominated at the end of your
decision letter.
That person will be able to discuss the decision, explain any issues
and assist with any problems.
Complaint
If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision
of the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act)
regarding access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS
to have the decision reviewed.
Complaints should be made in writing and addressed to:
FOI Complaint
Public Access Office
PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 40 working days.
The Information Commissioner
After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied
with the decision you may make application to the Information
Commissioner for a decision on whether the request for information has
been dealt with in accordance with the requirements of the Act.
For information on how to make application to the Information
Commissioner please visit their website at
www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk. Alternatively, phone or write to:
Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone: 01625 545 700
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From: William Old
10 March 2009
Dear Sir or Madam,
Thank you for your detailed response. The PNB Circular to which you
refer was agreed by PNB at its meeting in February 2008, when the
only item of disagreement was the very issue that gives rise to my
FoI request (para.14 of the draft Agreement), and which remains
outstanding. The issue is therefore NOT addressed in the PNB
Agreement that you quote.
However, in the document attached to your response, it is stated
"Paragraph 24.3.2 - A period of temporary promotion in a higher
rank would count towards your reckonable service for incremental
pay purposes." This is slightly ambiguous, and I would suggest that
the words "in that higher rank" be inserted after "service" to
remove the ambiguity (i.e. that such service counts as reckonable
service for incremental pay purposes but only in the substantive
rank). However, comparison with the preceding paragraph clarifies
what the author intended.
For your information, in the case referred to in the second part of
my request, the Merseyside Police tried to establish a different
meaning for the Regulation based on that very issue, but HH Judge
Platts gave an unequivocal judgement to the contrary. Indeed, I
note (from the published response to a FoI request at that time)
that the Metropolitan Police did NOT comply with this Regulation in
May 2006, so you policy has been reversed since that time. At the
present time, there are still 7 police forces in England & Wales
that do not comply.
Thank you for your response.
Yours sincerely,
William Old
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