Refusal to investigate crimes

Steve Hunt made this Freedom of Information request to North Wales Police

Waiting for an internal review by North Wales Police of their handling of this request.

From: Steve Hunt

3 July 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

What percentage of crimes reported to North Wales Police which are
fully backed up by conclusive evidence that such crime has taken
place do North Wales Police simply refuse to investigate?

Yours faithfully,

Steve Hunt

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From: Freedom of Information Team

6 July 2009

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Dear Mr Hunt,

Enquiry Ref:2009/407

I acknowledge receipt of your email received on 03/07/2009 requesting
information concerning;

What percentage of crimes reported to North Wales Police which are

fully backed up by conclusive evidence that such crime has taken

place do North Wales Police simply refuse to investigate?

Could you please clarify what exactly you mean by "simply refuse to
investigate"

are you referring to screening out crime?

To enable us to respond to your request please provide the details
requested above or alternatively indicate how we may otherwise assist you.

Unfortunately we are unable to research your request until we have
received this information and the clock will be stopped pending receipt of
your response.
If you would like to discuss this matter please do not hesitate to contact
me.

Yours sincerely,

Ceri Williams

Freedom of Information Dept / Adran Rhyddid Gwybodaeth

Chief Information Officer's Department/Adran yr Uwch Swyddog Gwybodaeth

Ext/Est: 05430

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Dim ond er sylw'r sawl y'i cyfeiriwyd hi ato/ati y bwriedir y neges hon. Os ydych yn derbyn y neges hon mewn camgymeriad, gadewch i'r sawl a'i gyrrodd wybod a dil**wch hi oddi ar eich system. Gall defnyddio neu ddatgelu cynnwys y neges hon heb ganiat**d fod yn anghyfreithlon. Efallai nad yw'r farn a fynegir yn y ddogfen yn bolisi swyddogol. Diolch i chi am eich cydweithrediad.
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From: Steve Hunt

6 July 2009

Dear Freedom of Information Team,

Quote:
Could you please clarify what exactly you mean by "simply refuse to
investigate"
are you referring to screening out crime?

The phrase "simply refuse to investigate" has its natural meaning
in the English language.

E.G. where a complaint of crime is made to the Police, with full
supporting evidence of the crime having taken place, and the Police
refuse to investigate that criminal complaint.

I am not sure how I can explain the question in any more simple
terms?

Yours sincerely,

Steve Hunt

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From: Freedom of Information Team

7 July 2009

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Dear Mr Hunt,

Enquiry Ref: 2009/407,

I acknowledge receipt of your email received on 06/07/2009 requesting the
folowing information;

What percentage of crimes reported to North Wales Police which are

fully backed up by conclusive evidence that such crime has taken

place do North Wales Police simply refuse to investigate?

As set out by the Freedom of Information Act, it will be our aim to
respond to your request by 03/08/2009. In some cases, however, we may be
unable to achieve this deadline. If this occurs, we will advise you of the
likely timescale within which the response will be provided.

If you have any questions regarding your request, please contact me.

Yours sincerely,

Ceri Williams

Freedom of Information Dept / Adran Rhyddid Gwybodaeth

Chief Information Officer's Department/Adran yr Uwch Swyddog Gwybodaeth

Ext/Est: 05430

E-mail/E-bost: [2][email address]

Freedom of Information Team

Ni ddylid trin e-bost ar y rhyngrwyd fel dull diogel o gyfathrebu. Mae Heddlu Gogledd Cymru yn monitro'r holl negeseuon e-bost a drosglwyddir ar y rhyngrwyd yn ogystal **'u cynnwys.
Dim ond er sylw'r sawl y'i cyfeiriwyd hi ato/ati y bwriedir y neges hon. Os ydych yn derbyn y neges hon mewn camgymeriad, gadewch i'r sawl a'i gyrrodd wybod a dil**wch hi oddi ar eich system. Gall defnyddio neu ddatgelu cynnwys y neges hon heb ganiat**d fod yn anghyfreithlon. Efallai nad yw'r farn a fynegir yn y ddogfen yn bolisi swyddogol. Diolch i chi am eich cydweithrediad.
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C. Wangari left an annotation (20 July 2009)

Mr. Hunt's question is slightly ambiguous and assumes certain facts.

Perhaps Mr. Hunt, is requesting for statistics relating to complaints that are made, but are not investigated further due to any but not limited to the following reasons (i) the person complained off is a public figure (ii) the crime is in a high crime area which is found undesirable to use resources on (iii) the complainant does not seem truthful (iv) Lack of jurisdiction (v)lack of enough manpower....

Is this the correct position?

C. Wangari

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From: Freedom of Information Team

23 July 2009

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Dear Mr Hunt,

Please find attached our response to your recent Freedom of Information
(FOI) request, together with a copy of the North Wales Police FOI review
procedure.

It may interest you to note that the information provided in this response
will also be available simultaneously (or soon after release) on the North
Wales Police website. This is in keeping with the spirit of the Freedom
of Information Act 2000 and provides the wider community with a greater
understanding of the work of North Wales Police. It also ensures that our
FOI response log remains topical and up to date.

Regards,

Ceri Williams

Freedom of Information Dept / Adran Rhyddid Gwybodaeth

Chief Information Officer's Department/Adran yr Uwch Swyddog Gwybodaeth

Ext/Est: 05430

E-mail/E-bost: [1][email address]

Ni ddylid trin e-bost ar y rhyngrwyd fel dull diogel o gyfathrebu. Mae Heddlu Gogledd Cymru yn monitro'r holl negeseuon e-bost a drosglwyddir ar y rhyngrwyd yn ogystal **'u cynnwys.
Dim ond er sylw'r sawl y'i cyfeiriwyd hi ato/ati y bwriedir y neges hon. Os ydych yn derbyn y neges hon mewn camgymeriad, gadewch i'r sawl a'i gyrrodd wybod a dil**wch hi oddi ar eich system. Gall defnyddio neu ddatgelu cynnwys y neges hon heb ganiat**d fod yn anghyfreithlon. Efallai nad yw'r farn a fynegir yn y ddogfen yn bolisi swyddogol. Diolch i chi am eich cydweithrediad.
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From: Steve Hunt

23 July 2009

Dear Freedom of Information Team,

From personal knowledge, it is my opinion that your response is
quite simply untrue and therefore I seek an Internal Review.

Since you have made reference specifically to my case in your
response, I shall do so too:

North Wales Police have been provided with exactly the evidence
that D.I. Robert Halford stated was required to take my case
forward, but yet NWP still refuse to investigate.

Therefore this is as least one case that North Wales Police have
decided to "screen out", as you call it.

Whilst you are conducting your internal review, all of the evidence
provided to North Wales Police that proves crimes committed against
me in the above referenced case will be published.

It is important for the Public to see for themselves that North
Wales Police refuse to investigate crimes despite being provided
with irrefutable evidence.

I note your attempts to publicly accuse me of being vexatious.

Steve Hunt

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lisa left an annotation (23 July 2009)

This is interesting, keep going sieve until you get an answer, unfortunately you are asking for an internal review, i think you could be in for a long long long long long long wait. anyway take a look at my request on peodophiles in anglesey, so far i am really concerned at the police's answers so far.

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Steve Hunt left an annotation (23 July 2009)

Hi Lisa, I see you had difficulty getting the Police to understand the simplest of English language terms too... in my case they couldn't understand the 4-word phrase "simply refuse to investigate" - I see in your case they do not understand what the word "figures" means... and they wonder why public confidence in North Wales Police is so low???

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From: Freedom of Information Team

24 July 2009

Dear Mr Hunt,

We acknowledge your request for an Internal review.
We will aim to get a response to you by the 21st Aug 2009.

Regards,

Merf Griffiths Arolygydd/Inspector

Freedom of Information Dept/ Adran Rhyddid Gwybodaeth.
Est/Ext;05112
Deialu uniongyrchol/Direct dial;01492 805112
Ffon symudol /Mobile;07989859957
facs/fax;01492 517642
e-bost/email;[email address]

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lisa left an annotation (24 July 2009)

whatever answer i get or we get from the police, it would be interesting to see what type of answer we would get if we were to print out our questions and answers and send it to the papers or number 10 downing street.
steve is there a website for pcso's, i mean we might get somewhere with them, i just want to know the figures of peodophiles in anglesey and in asking the police that question has made north wales police comit a criminal offense.

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lisa left an annotation (24 July 2009)

steve, remember the mp expenses and how they blacked out almost everything so you couldnt make any sense of it, same thing here i think.
the police are making out they do not understand plain english and im not asking for names or addresses if i did the police would use the data protection act as a defence.
lets see where we get and if we get nowhere i think sky news would be interested, dont you think.

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Steve Hunt left an annotation (24 July 2009)

Lisa, My MP David Jones is being kept in the loop with all my problems with Conwy County Borough Council (who have broken many laws as has already been proven by successful Court action I have taken against them). Interestingly, Mr Jones is one of the few MP's NOT embroiled in the expenses saga! I suggest strongly you get in touch and go and see your MP and see if/how they can help.

I can see nothing wrong with your request at all, it is a perfectly straight-forward question for which there should be a simple answer along the lines of "There are XX registered paedophiles living on Anglesey"... You have made it quite clear you are not asking for their names or addresses, just the quantity. It is quite clear to any person reading that the Police are deliberately trying to find ways of not answering the simple question by trying to use the excuse you are asking for things you are clearly not! - what an utter farce.

I wonder what the reason could be they don't want to say? - perhaps there are a lot more than people realise? - perhaps they use Anglesey as "safe houses" for these people when they come out of Jail etc.? ... who knows, there must be some reason they do not want the public to know the truth, or why make such an effort to hide it?

I agree national media attention is needed - the local media is heavily under the influence of shall we say "interested parties" - and anything controversial against the "establishment" simply won't get reported.

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lisa left an annotation (24 July 2009)

yes i think you could be right steve, the police are possibly hiding the fact that anglesey is a haven for peodophiles, very very worrying isnt it.

the council, the establishment all can break the law anytime they wish, my councillor goronwy parry is no good whatsoever, i would rather ask for help from a dead relative of mine via a prayer.

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From: Griffiths, Merfyn (Insp 504)

20 August 2009

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Dear Mr Hunt,

Following your request for us to review our previous response to the above
Freedom of Information enquiry, I can advise you that North Wales Police
has now completed its internal review.Unfortunately, our response remains
unchanged.

Although the response has undergone the review procedure by North Wales
Police, you do have the right to contact the Information Commissioner
.Please see the attached leaflet for your information .

Yours sincerely

Merfyn Griffiths Arolygydd/Inspector

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Freedom of Information Dept/ Adran Rhyddid Gwybodaeth.

Est/Ext;05112

Deialu uniongyrchol/Direct dial;01492 805112

Ffon symudol /Mobile;07989859957

facs/fax;01492 517642

e-bost/email;[2][email address]

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From: Steve Hunt

20 August 2009

Dear Griffiths, Merfyn (Insp 504),

The original response to my request IS QUITE SIMPLY A LIE.

North Wales Police HAVE REFUSED TO INVESTIGATE CRIMES, I have full
documentary evidence right here in front of me - so why have you
stated on public record that this is not the case?

Yours sincerely,

Steve Hunt

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From: Steve Hunt

28 August 2009

Please answer the above question.

Steve Hunt

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From: Steve Hunt

15 September 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

Unless I hear from you in the next 48 hours with answers to my
questions, formal complaint will be made to the Information
Commissioner regarding your lies.

Steve Hunt

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From: Freedom of Information Team

16 September 2009

Dear Mr Hunt,

As per our reply to you on 20th August 2009, following your request for us to review our previous response to the above Freedom of Information enquiry, I can again advise you that North Wales Police has completed its internal review and our response remains unchanged.

Although the response has undergone the review procedure by North Wales Police, you do have the right, as indicated below to contact the Information Commissioner .

Yours sincerely

Merfyn Griffiths Arolygydd/Inspector

Freedom of Information Dept/ Adran Rhyddid Gwybodaeth.

Est/Ext;05112
Deialu uniongyrchol/Direct dial;01492 805112
Ffon symudol /Mobile;07989859957
facs/fax;01492 517642
e-bost/email;[email address]

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