Police Confidential Reporting Line

Independent Police Support Group made this Freedom of Information request to Independent Police Complaints Commission

The request was partially successful.

From: Independent Police Support Group

3 February 2010

Dear Independent Police Complaints Commission,

Please provide the following information since the IPCC introduced
the confidential reporting line for police officers and staff.

1. How many reports have been made via this line.

2. What was the outcome for each matter reported via this line

Yours faithfully,

Independent Police Support Group

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From: Athena Cass
Independent Police Complaints Commission

4 February 2010

Attachment FOI Delay letter.1002012.Independent Police Support Group.Dated.3.2.2010..doc
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[Subject only] FOI Delay letter.1002012.Independent Police Support Group.Dated.3.2.2010.

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From: Independent Police Support Group

4 March 2010

Dear Athena Cass,

Can you confirm whether the ICO has been made aware of the
difficulties the IPCC are having in complying to requests within
the relevant time limit.

Perhaps the IPCC can do something in the short term to help you in
clearing the backlog.

Yours sincerely,

Independent Police Support Group

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Dave Merccer left an annotation ( 4 March 2010)

they'll likely consider that another FOIA request so do not expect a response soon! Can the ICO grant dispensation?

Ive sent the following as you never know.

IPCC and FOIA‏
From: Dave Merccer
Sent: 04 March 2010 18:13:12
To: johnsona[@]parliament.uk
Sir

I wish to draw your attention to the numerous concerns being raised about the IPCC and their ability to comply with UK legislation.

as examples, please see:

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/delays_ad...

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/foia_resp...

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/delays_ad...

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/police_co...

This appears to have been going on for an unreasonable time and I question the accuracy of the responses being given to all applicants and the lawfulness of same.

yours faithfully

D Mercer.

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Mr Andrews left an annotation ( 4 March 2010)

LOOKS LIKE A FEW MORE PROBLEMS IN THE IPCC....ONE OF THE TEAM HAS LEFT..SEE THE AUTO REPLY EMAIL BELOW.. WAS SHE SACKED?

I AM NO LONGER EMPLOYED BY THE IPCC.

For urgent matters please contact the IPCC Reception on 020 7166 3000 or send an e-mail to foi@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk.

Thank you and best regards,
Vangie

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From: Phil Johnston
Independent Police Complaints Commission

23 March 2010

Attachment IPSG 1001979 1002012 response to requests.pdf
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Attachment IPSG 1001979 2012 Designation of police reporters.pdf
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Please find attached to this email my response to your request,
consisting of one letter and one spread sheet. I have replied to this
and your request under reference request-25147-abb713b7 by means of the
same letter and spread sheet.

<<IPSG 1001979 & 1002012 - response to requests.pdf>> <<IPSG
1001979-2012 - Designation of police reporters.pdf>>

Philip Johnston
Independent Police Complaints Commission
90 High Holborn
London
WC1V 6BH

Direct Line: 0207 166 3063
Fax: 0207 166 3363
E mail for IPCC FoI Unit: [IPCC request email]

Message: 1002012-001

From: Independent Police Support Group
<mailto:[FOI #28362 email]>
To: !FOI Requests <mailto:!FOI Requests[EX:/O=IPCC/OU=FIRST
ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=FOI]>
Cc:
Sent: 03/02/2010 at 22:13
Received: 03/02/2010 at 22:13
Subject: File FOI / 1001212 request - Police Confidential
Reporting Line

Dear Independent Police Complaints Commission,

Please provide the following information since the IPCC introduced
the confidential reporting line for police officers and staff.

1. How many reports have been made via this line.

2. What was the outcome for each matter reported via this line

Yours faithfully,

Independent Police Support Group

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Paul left an annotation (23 March 2010)

Staggeringly they can't even tell the outcome without exceeding the financial limit of the FOI act.

Either this is a staggeringly incompetent and inefficient organisation or this is complete cow pat!

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Independent Police Support Group left an annotation (23 March 2010)

This is unfortunately another example which gives the perception that the IPCC is not really independent.

The present system acts as a deterrant to police Officers and police staff to report wrongdoing or miscarriages of justice.

What they are saying is that a police officer or a member of police staff serving or retired cannot make a complaint against another police officer.

They get round this by saying they they can report wrongdoing and this can be classed as 'recordable conduct' however if there is a cover up or a force fails to investigate the allegation; that is the end of the matter; they do not have a right of appeal to the IPCC as they are not considered to be members of the public even after they have left the force.

How can you evaluate the success of a reporting line if you don't keep records of the outcome of any allegations that have been reported?

Crimestoppers are able to keep a record of this information; it is evident that whoever is pulling the strings of the IPCC does not want police officers reporting wrongdoing committed by colleagues.

A police officer is probably the closest and most likely person to become aware of corruption and prevent a miscarriage of justice.

If a police officer's allegations are going to be ignored and he has no right of appeal, there is nothing to stop those officers being victimised, intimdated and hounded out of the force.

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Dave Merccer left an annotation (24 March 2010)

odd they did not suggest you may like to seek a sample. At 10 minutes / file they can do 6/hr, that's 108 in 18hrs (£450). If you'd like to ask for the 1st 106, I'll ask for the 2nd 106 and I suspect someone else annotating this entry will assist with the last 106.

Just reply under this entry to the IPCC and those that have annotated will likely be advised and can act.

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Paul left an annotation (25 March 2010)

Dave and Mr Swift.

Please see link for 3rd batch of 106, I will post the results back to this page when they (yawn) eventually arrive.......

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From: Independent Police Support Group

25 March 2010

Dear Phil Johnston,

On the figures provided and the time estimate for retrieving the
information from each file;we would be grateful if you could supply
the information requested from the first 106 files.

Yours sincerely,

Independent Police Support Group

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Dave Merccer left an annotation (28 March 2010)

request for 2nd 106 files made at:

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/po...

DM

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P Swift left an annotation (29 March 2010)

request for 3rd batch at:

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/po...

P Swift

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From: Phil Johnston
Independent Police Complaints Commission

1 June 2010

Attachment IPSG 1002148 decision ltr Reg 5.pdf
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Attachment IPSG Outcomes Data.pdf
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Dear Independent Police Support Group,
I refer to your e-mail of 25th March (as below).

Please find attached to this e-mail my response to your request,
together with the table of data referred to in the final section of the
decision letter.

Philip Johnston
IPCC

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From: Independent Police Support Group

2 June 2010

Dear Phil Johnston,

Thank you for the response. We will not be pursuing matters as
ultimately sufficient information has been provided and collated
from several sources which confirm that the reporting is not really
working or giving confidence to officers and staff to use the
service.

I think this is something that can be dealt with more effectively
in concentrating how the IPCC may be able to improve the present
situation which provides no protection for whistleblowers or their
families; sometimes resulting in devasting circumstances.

Yours sincerely,

Independent Police Support Group
27 Old Gloucester Street
London
WC1N 3AX

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James Williams left an annotation ( 4 September 2011)

Its been longer than 60 days so this request for the first 106 files can be requested again as under the act they can no longer aggregate it.

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Things to do with this request

Anyone:
Independent Police Complaints Commission only: