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From: brian ovens

24 February 2010

Dear Cumbria Constabulary,

can you help me with my research through the freedom of information
act?

1. I would like to know how accurate police cameras have to be
before they can convict someone of speeding, do they have to be
100% accurate? im talking hand held cameras or non hand held
cameras.

2. If they don't have to be 100% accurate, what is the percentage
that brings them in line percentage wise, so people can be
convicted of speeding?

3. Are all cameras kept up to Home Office standards on a daily
basis?

4. Do all speed cameras have to be sign posted by law that they are
in process of being used?

Yours faithfully,

b owens

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Cumbria Constabulary

25 February 2010

Dear Mr Over

Thank you for your request for information received via email in this
office on 25^th February 2010. This request will be dealt with under the
terms of the Freedom Of Information Act 2000. Details of the request
received:-

1. I would like to know how accurate police cameras have to be

before they can convict someone of speeding, do they have to be

100% accurate? im talking hand held cameras or non hand held

cameras.

2. If they don't have to be 100% accurate, what is the percentage

that brings them in line percentage wise, so people can be

convicted of speeding?

3. Are all cameras kept up to Home Office standards on a daily

basis?

4. Do all speed cameras have to be sign posted by law that they are

in process of being used?

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Cumbria Constabulary

10 March 2010


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Please find attached our response to your recent request for information.

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From: brian ovens

10 March 2010

Dear FOI Email,

Thank you for the reply, I have went through the information in the
handbooks but I don't feel my questions 1 and 2 have been
answered.Maybe I have missed something and you could be kind enough
to point it out? Here is the two questions again.........

1. I would like to know how accurate police cameras have to be
before they can convict someone of speeding, do they have to be
100% accurate? im talking hand held cameras or non hand held
cameras.

2. If they don't have to be 100% accurate, what is the percentage
that brings them in line percentage wise, so people can be
convicted of speeding?

Yours sincerely,

b ovens

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From: FOI Email
Cumbria Constabulary

12 March 2010

Dear Mr Ovens,

In relation to your enquiry, can I please refer you to the Speed Meter Handbook again, specifically Page 16, Section 7.6 Measuring Accuracy:

http://scienceandresearch.homeoffice.gov...

This is generic Home Office guidance which we adhere to. I apologise for not referring you to the specific section in my original letter.

However, if you wish to know by specific device then you will need to approach the manufactures. In order to assist you I have provided the weblinks to the manufactures who provided equipment to Cumbria Constabulary:

http://www.teletrafficuk.com/
http://www.redspeed-int.com/index.php?op...

Yours sincerely
Miss Jones

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Jane Jones

Freedom of Information Officer

Professional Standards Department HQ

T: 01768 217054
M: 07967572321
E: [email address]
W: www.cumbria.police.uk

Professional Standards Department, Police Headquarters, Carleton Hall, Penrith, CA10 2AU

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Cumbria Constabulary - Safer Stronger Cumbria

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From: brian ovens

12 March 2010

Dear FOI Email,
Thanks for your help, I had read that part but I was getting more
at how accurate are these camera's? My point being lie detectors
have a high percentage for accuracy but cant be used in court, my
understanding is they (speed cameras) would have to be 100%
accurate to convict someone just like lie detectors.

If they are not 100% then how can they be used in court? maybe they
are just used as a guideline for speeding? Then if the person
admits to speeding this make the camera's lawful in court?

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Yours sincerely,

b ovens

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From: FOI Email
Cumbria Constabulary

9 April 2010

Dear Mr Ovens,

I refer to your e-mail dated 12th March 2010 and apologise for not responding before now.

In order to find a defendant guilty a court must be satisfied, beyond reasonable doubt, that the accused committed the offence. Ultimately it is for a court to determine the admissability, or otherwise, of evidence put before it in a criminal case.

The Constabulary has provided the information that it holds, which is relevant to your enquiry. If you remain dissatisfied with how this request has been dealt with, you should seek a review of the handling of your request by following the procedure outlined in the Complaint Rights Notice which was provided to you on 10th March 2010.

Yours sincerely

_________________________________________________

Tracy Cavanagh
Data Protection & Freedom of Information
Professional Standards Department

T: 01768 217177
F: 01768 217789
W: www.cumbria.police.uk

Police Headquarters, Carleton Hall, Penrith, Cumbria CA10 2AU.
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Cumbria Constabulary - Safer Stronger Cumbria

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