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From: Blue
20 October 2009
Dear Sir or Madam,
Please provide me with copies of the following two original
contracts:
The Enforcement and Clamping contract commenced by NCP on 1 April
2003
Removals and Pound Management Contract commenced by NCP on 4th July
2003
Yours faithfully,
Blue
Westminster City Council
20 October 2009
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This Freedom Of Information Request was based on the following
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Name: Blue
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Please provide me with copies of the following two original
contracts:
The Enforcement and Clamping contract commenced by NCP on 1 April
2003
Removals and Pound Management Contract commenced by NCP on 4th July
2003
FOI Reference Number: 4537
Target Completion Date: 17/11/2009
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From: FOI
Westminster City Council
26 October 2009
Dear Blue,
Please find attached our response in regard to your recent FOI requests.
<<09-10-26 Aggregate fees letter - Blue.doc>>
Kindest regards,
Tanya Holden
Data Protection & FOI Officer
Knowledge and Information Management
Westminster City Council
101 Orchardson Street
London, NW8 8EA
Tel: 0207 641 6451
Fax: 0207 641 2872
Email: [Westminster City Council request email]
[1]www.westminster.gov.uk
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From: Blue
26 October 2009
Dear Tanya,
As you may know that in the Secretary of State for Constitutional
Affairs' Code of Practice on the discharge of public authorities'
functions under
Part I of the Freedom of Information Act 2000, The provision of
advice and assistance to persons making requests for information,
Section 14 it states
“Where an authority is not obliged to comply with a request for
information because, under section 12(1) and regulations made under
section 12, the cost of complying would exceed the "appropriate
limit" (i.e. cost threshold) the authority should consider
providing an indication of what, if any, information could be
provided within the cost ceiling. The authority should also
consider advising the applicant that by reforming or re-focussing
their request, information may be able to be supplied for a lower,
or no, fee. “
But I also note that you mention in your refusal “I note that we
have also spent 41.5 hours in the previous 60 working days on
responding to requests from you, which we have not included in our
aggregation calculations on this occasion. “are your referring too
section 12 of the Freedom of Information Act sub-section 4 (a,b)?
If so I would suggest that your assumption is wrong, and that I am
in fact following the advice of the Audit Commission given to me on
the 28th September 2009 regarding my objections to the Councils
accounts. The Audit Commissioners advice is as follows “While this
marks the start of the objection process, I would encourage you and
the Council to continue your discussion with a view to resolving
the issue between you”.
As my own records show the Council, and more specifically the
Parking Department in general are not corresponding to the
residents or me, this leaves FOI requests as the only method to
complete my objections.
However your refusal could also be breaking the law, as the the
Audit Commission Act 1998 provides at 15(1) that:
(1) At each audit under this Act, other than an audit of accounts
of a
health service body, any persons interested may-
(a) inspect the accounts to be audited and all books, deeds,
contracts, bills, vouchers and receipts relating to them, and
(b) make copies of all or any part of the accounts and those other
documents.
That is an explicit and unqualified right of an interested person
“at each audit”.
My understanding is that while District Auditors are at the present
time in the process of considering objections the “audit” is still
in progress so as to render the provisions of s. 15(1) to be
currently in force. If that is so then refusal by Westminster
Council of access to relevant documents must be contrary to the Act
and therefore contrary to law.
Secondly, in the matter of public inspection of accounts the
Accounts and Audit Regulations 2003 provides at 14(1):
"(1) Subject to paragraph (2), the relevant body or, as the case
may be, the chairman, notified under regulation 13, shall make the
accounts and other documents mentioned in section 15 of the 1998
Act available for public inspection for 20 working days before the
date appointed by the auditor under that regulation. In respect of
the accounts for 2008-09 that specified period of 20 working days
has undoubtedly passed but I see no provision in these Regulations
that enables a council to prevent me or other interested persons
from having sight of documents necessary to provide to their
District Auditor after that prescribed period."
Neither in these Regulations nor elsewhere do I see a prohibition
of any description that prevents an interested person having access
to necessary documents outside this 20-day period if there is good
reason for him to require it in connection with the continuing
audit. I am not aware of any power or authority of a council
unconditionally to refuse access to documents or request a fee of
£750 outside the 20-day period but I would readily accept that an
interested person would need to demonstrate to the council good
reason for requiring such access. If I am correct in that view then
I and others are currently faced with wrongful obstruction by
Westminster Council with the right of document inspection afforded
by the Act to persons whose objections are currently being
considered by District Auditors. It is necessary that we overcome
this obstruction, so I invite you to suggest how as you have issued
a refusal in this case. I would be willing to visit City Hall to
make copies of the information requested if this will help.
Accordingly, it seems to me that as the District Auditor is still
considering an objection from a registered elector he has the power
and authority to instruct Westminster Council to enable the
objector to have access to all documents that the objector requires
to present relevant evidence to him in connection with an
unresolved objection, so I am also willing to write to the District
Auditor with your refusal to provide the information if you do not
wish to do so, please let me know?
Should you refuse again I will also require a breakdown of your
estimated costs to pass on to the Information Commissioner.
Yours sincerely,
Blue
M Laurent left an annotation (27 October 2009)
The council's response is a complete joke. They say they need to charge £750 to retrieve 2 contracts, come on, this is ridiculous.
Interestingly enough, they quote the same amount on all Blue's recent FOI requests, which suggests that they haven't read each individual request properly, and blindly replied with a standard wording. This is not acceptable, you should take the matter to the District Auditor and Information Commissioner, no matter what WCC think. Their attitude is totally outrageous. And yes, I agree with Lucy Adams, they are trying to hide something by putting you off with a cost of £750. Fight, that's all I can say!
Blue left an annotation (27 October 2009)
I find Tanya Holden's mass template response to five of my FOI requests both insulting and disingenuous. The response only goes to further demonstrate the contempt which Westminster City Council staff hold the residents in. I'm sorry to have increased her workload, but her obvious frustration should be directed to certain Councillors and their officers who refuse to answer residents correspondence (all documents and can be supplied to the courts).
Ms Holden is keen to claim that I have used 41.5 hours of WCC staff time, yet in this FOI request (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/we...) the council claim not to keep records of time spent on orchestrating Mr Fitsall's campaign to smear the name of
a legitimate protest group. So do they only keep tabs on their residents and not their wayward council officers?
So 41.5 hours of WCC staff time is nothing compared to the frustrating hours used up by Londoner's appealing illegally issued PCN's. Which is nothing more that a target driven revenue generating scam, which has already brought disgrace not only to the Council but also to the parking industry as a whole, more to come.
M Laurent left an annotation (27 October 2009)
Blue, keep on the good work, I think you're doing an amazing job. These WCC bureaucrates have no respect for the people they are supposed to serve. They forget that, we, residents and visitors of Westminster, pay their wages for the work they do, so we have every right to ask for information, no matter what they think and whether they're happy or not. I think that if they continue to send you template responses in the same tone as they have just done, you should definitely make an official complaint to the District Auditor and Information Commissioner. Every person has a right to submit FOI requests and, as far as I know, the law doesn't specify a maximum number of requests one can put in. As you suggest, the FOI team should have a chat with Chalkley and his team to ask them to reply to the correspondence sent to them, if they are keen to see the number of FOIs reduce going forward. It's not your and our fault if the only option we have to obtain information from WCC is via the FOI Act 2000, because the parking department can't be asked to answer the emails and letters sent to them.
From: Blue
2 December 2009
Dear FOI team,
The LAW allows you 20 working days to complete an internal review,
why have you allowed 26 working days to elapse without replying to
this request?
I am surprised that with all the internal reviews you have had
concerning the late answers to FOI request that you still have not
been able to stay on the right side of the law.
Yours sincerely,
Blue
From: Blue
24 December 2009
Dear Westminster City Council,
Can you please provide an explanation as to why you have been
unable to conduct an Internal Review within the time time the law
states?
Yours faithfully,
Blue
Norris left an annotation (31 May 2010)
Find out more about NCP Services Ltd (National Car Parks Ltd) and NSL Services Group at http://nutsville.com/ http://ukfrancebikers.com/ and http://www.crossroadsrider.com/
http://www.notobikeparkingtax.com/
http://forum.notobikeparkingtax.com/
http://blog.notobikeparkingtax.com/
M Laurent left an annotation ( 2 January 2011)
I can see that this FOI has never been ansered!?
Mr Thomas left an annotation (30 January 2011)
Still no answer?! The council has clearly broken the law. Take it up to the ICO!
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Lucy Adams left an annotation (27 October 2009)
It just looks like Westminster Council are desperate to hide something, something big by the looks of things.
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