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Meeting bewteen Byron Davies and David Jones MP about Colwyn Bay Pier

Steve Hunt made this Freedom of Information request to Conwy Council

Waiting for an internal review by Conwy Council of their handling of this request.

Steve Hunt

18 February 2010

Conwy Council,

I require a full transcript and copy of the minutes / notes of the
meeting between Byron Davies and David Jones, MP which took place
on 16th Feb 2010 concerning Victoria Pier, Colwyn Bay as reported
here:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wa...

Steve Hunt

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Info Regs Unit/Uned.Rheol-Gwyb
Conwy Council

26 February 2010

Unit FOI 1071-10.

Dear Mr Hunt

Please find below our response to your enquiry dated 18/2/2010.

Your request was:

I require a full transcript and copy of the minutes / notes of the

meeting between Byron Davies and David Jones, MP which took place

on 16th Feb 2010 concerning Victoria Pier, Colwyn Bay as reported

here:

[1]http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wa...

Steve Hunt

The Chief Executives office has advised that this was an informal meeting
between Byron Davies & David Jones and as such no notes / minutes were
taken. You are therefore advised that no information is held in relation
to your request.

If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request, you have the
right to ask for an internal review. Internal review requests should be
submitted within two months of the date of receipt of this email.

If you are unhappy with this response you may appeal to the Information
Commissioner's Office - Wales, Cambrian Buildings, Mount Stuart Square

Cardiff, CF10 5FL

Yours sincerely

David Smith

Corporate Information & Complaints Manage

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Steve Hunt

26 February 2010

Mr Smith...

What a tangled web you continue to weave!

Isn't it funny that we can't seem to find hardly a single meeting
about the pier that has any documented notes or minutes... I wonder
why that could be?

I do not believe that the Chief Executive of a County Council would
have a meeting with a Member of Parliament and not make a single
note about it.

Therefore, I demand an internal review together with a signed
statement from Mr Byron Davies confirming that he did not make any
notes whatsoever concerning the aforementioned meeting.

Steve Hunt

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Info Regs Unit/Uned.Rheol-Gwyb
Conwy Council

2 March 2010

Dear Mr Hunt

Your request for an internal review is acknowledged and it is our
intention to respond preferably by 10 working days but not more than 20
working days from receipt of your request date.

Yours sincerely

David Smith
Corporate Information & Complaints Manage

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Info Regs Unit/Uned.Rheol-Gwyb
Conwy Council

5 March 2010

Dear Mr Hunt

I write in response to your request for an internal review dated 26th
February 2010.

As a senior member of staff who was not involved in dealing with the
original request I was asked to carry out the internal review.

I have conducted a thorough reconsideration of the decision and handling
of the request together with how the issues were handled and decisions
were made.

As I'm sure you are aware all you are entitled to under FOI is to access
information that we have in our possession.

Following the review I can confirm that there are no transcript, no
written notes and no minutes of the meeting in question held by this
Council

If for whatever reason you are unhappy with the response you are
entitled to make a formal complaint or contact the Information
Commissioner Wales, Cambrian Buildings, Mount Stewart Square. Cardiff
CF10 5FL

Yours sincerely

Irfon Owen
Information Regulations Unit

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Steve Hunt

5 March 2010

Dear Mr Owen / Mr Smith,

I repeat,

I demand a signed statement from Mr Byron Davies confirming that he
did not make any notes whatsoever concerning the aforementioned
meeting.

If indeed he did not make any notes etc., I fail to see why he
would not be prepared to make such a statement... whether or not I
am "entitled" to it is irrelevant - I am entitled to information
under the many other FOI requests that you consistently refuse to
comply with - so it is a bit rich to start bleating on about
pretending you can only comply with the letter of the law now isn't
it?.

If Byron Davies is not prepared to even back up his own words in a
signed statement, then it tells the public all they need to know
about him.

Steve Hunt

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Info Regs Unit/Uned.Rheol-Gwyb
Conwy Council

11 March 2010

Dear Mr Hunt

There is no requirement for the CE to provide a signed statement - all
that anyone is entitled to under FOI is access to information that we
have in our possession. There is no obligation on us to produce anything
further.

I would reiterate following the review I can confirm that there are no
transcript, no written notes and no minutes of the meeting in question
held by this Council

Yours sincerely

Irfon Owen
Information Regulations Manager

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Steve Hunt

11 March 2010

So Mr Byron Davies is now on public record as NOT being prepared to
back up his words in writing - how very interesting. Clearly he is
unfit to hold his position.

Whether or not there is a "requirement" is totally irrelevant. CCBC
were "required" BY LAW to tell the truth in Court - but they did
not do so did they?

Steve Hunt

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Still no word when Byron Davies will be back at CCBC - it seems unlikely he will ever return now that Ken Finch has finally got his feet under the table...

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