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Land adjoining White House Farm Chichester OS map ref SU8405NE LR title WSX272832
M. White made this Freedom of Information request to Chichester District Council
The request was refused by Chichester District Council.
From: M. White
17 November 2008
Dear Sir or Madam, Please state for the period 1st January 2000 to
the 1st November 2008 the following details about any contact
between, on the one part, Chichester District Council employees,
councillors or agents and on the other part the owner or anyone
acting in their interest or Linden Homes or anyone acting in their
interest.
Details ask for
1. Date of contact 2. Method 3. Names and titles of the people
involved 4. Matter raised 5. Consequential action (Investigation,
planning, preparation etc) by CDC
Yours faithfully,
M. White
From: Karen Carter
Chichester District Council
11 December 2008
RE: FOI Request - Land adjoining White House Farm Chichester OS Map Ref
SU8405NE LR title WSX272832
Could I clarify that the information requested relates entirely to
Planning matters?
Please state for the period 1st January 2000 to
the 1st November 2008 the following details about any contact
between, on the one part, Chichester District Council employees,
councillors or agents and on the other part the owner or anyone
acting in their interest or Linden Homes or anyone acting in their
interest.
Details ask for
1. Date of contact 2. Method 3. Names and titles of the people
involved 4. Matter raised 5. Consequential action (Investigation,
planning, preparation etc) by CDC
Many thanks
Mrs Karen Carter
Public Relations Officer
Chichester District Council
Telephone: (01243) 534679
Fax: (01243) 776766
Email: [email address]
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From: M. White
16 December 2008
Dear Mrs Carter,
Thank you for your reply. Planning and Enviroment is the focus of
the request.
Yours sincerely,
M. White
From: Karen Carter
Chichester District Council
16 December 2008
Dear Mr White
FOI Request re land adjoining White House Farm Chichester OS Map Ref
SU8405NE title WSX272832
With reference to your Freedom of Information Request, a fee of £16.20 is
payable to us before I can provide you with the information. This fee
covers the costs of photocopying and has been calculated in accordance
with the Freedom of Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit and
Fees) Regulations 2004.
If you wish us to continue to process your request, the fee should be paid
within 3 calendar months (by 10 March 2009). If we do not receive payment
of the fee by this date, I will take it that you do not wish to pursue
this request and will consider it closed.
Please send a cheque payable to Chichester District Council to:
Mrs S Carter,
Administration Manager,
Development Control,
Environment and Greener Living,
Chichester District Council,
East Pallant House,
1 East Pallant,
Chichester,
West Sussex,
PO19 1TY
Yours sincerely
Mrs Karen Carter
Public Relations Officer
Chichester District Council
Telephone: (01243) 534679
Fax: (01243) 776766
Email: [email address]
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From: M. White
16 December 2008
Dear Mrs Carter,
Thank you for stating the price of photocopying. Please say the
size of and quantity of the pieces?
Please also confirm that on receipt of the money that you will
deliver them electronically to "whatdotheyknow"
Yours sincerely,
M. White
From: Karen Carter
Chichester District Council
17 December 2008
Dear Mr White
The photocopying charge of £16.20 comprises:
97 x A4 (10p per page) = £9.70
13 x A3 (50p per page) = £6.50
On receipt of the cheque, we will be delighted to send hard copies of the information requested. The original FOI Request did not specify that the relevant details should be provided electronically.
Please send the forwarding address as soon as possible,
Yours sincerely
Mrs Karen Carter
Public Relations Officer
Chichester District Council
Telephone: (01243) 534679
Fax: (01243) 776766
Email: [email address]
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From: M. White
17 December 2008
Dear Mrs Carter,
Thank you for the pricing detail and the apparent thoroughness of
the assembled reply.
I am very surprised that CDC do not think of replying
electronically as the request came as such. Please would you
reconsider May I also refer you to the following..........
Section 8.1.b of the FOI Act asks for an "address for
correspondence", and you have the email address.
The Ministry of Justice has guidance on this – "As well as hard
copy written correspondence, requests that are transmitted
electronically (for example, in emails) are acceptable ... If a
request is received by email and no postal address is given, the
email address should be treated as the return address."
The Information Commissioner's Hints for Practitioners say "Any
correspondence could include a request for information. If it is
written (this includes e-mail), legible, gives the name of the
applicant, an address for reply (which could be electronic), and
includes a description of the information required, then it will
fall within the scope of the legislation."
I note that CDC has a scanning facility for the publication of
Planning Applications and all related papers at their original size
on its Website, so sending the documents electronically would
appear to be easy for the CDC to do?
I have looked, however please can you also kindly confirm that none
of the pieces to be supplied are presently hidden in the Labyrinth
of the CDC website, chichester.gov and just need a url reference to
find?
Yours sincerely,
M. White
From: Karen Carter
Chichester District Council
6 January 2009
Dear Mr White,
Thank you for your e-mail of 17 December. Having taken legal advice, as
your Request is for the release of planning information only, it falls
within the Environmental Information Regulations 2004.
Under Regulation 6, a local authority may make the information available
by other means if it is reasonable to do so, and it explains its reasons.
In this case, as the documents are scattered amongst numerous files, a
separate e mail must be created on each occasion to extract the document.
Further it will be impossible to avoid extraneous references being
included without manually renaming each image which would be very
time-consuming. The authority would need to charge for this time at £25
per hour and our initial estimate is a cost of £150. In consequence, we
can continue to make this available as hard copies for the copying charges
only.
You are entitled to make further representation concerning this e-mail,
and if you wish to do so please address those concerns to Mr Andrew Frost,
Assistant Director, Environment ([email address]) within 40 days
of the date of this e-mail.
Alternatively you may apply directly to the Information Commissioner at
Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.
Yours sincerely
Mrs Karen Carter
Public Relations Officer
Chichester District Council
Telephone: (01243) 534679
Fax: (01243) 776766
Email: [email address]
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From: M. White
8 January 2009
Dear Mrs Carter
Thank you for the reply and I note the change of reason used to
stop an electronic reply.
I am sorry to see that CDC have a system, which is set to provide
information in an avalanche of paper which is at odds with CDC’s
promotion of a Greener 2009.
It is difficult to see how you can provide paper copies without
manually removing extraneous information and yet are not able to
produce it electronically even as an e-mail per piece for the same
cost. This is undemocratic as it restricts access and
environmentally insensitive as it consumes paper without need.
Please would you now pass this on to the person who conducts
Freedom of
Information reviews within Chichester District Council
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Please would you clarify Mrs Carter’s previous statements on no
electronic reply and kindly answer my previous question.
“I have looked, however please can you also kindly confirm that
none
of the pieces to be supplied are presently hidden in the Labyrinth
of the CDC website, chichester.gov.uk and just need a url reference
to
find?” (or are in the Planning portal)
I accept CDC’s charge of £16.20 as a disbursement cost for an
electronic reply without prejudice, however you can only be
obstructing the FOI act by asking for £150 plus. I note that the
CDC itself states on its webpage relating to FOI
“For the majority of requests, it is expected that the charge for
locating and compiling information will be less than £450 and
therefore, except for disbursement costs, no reimbursement can be
sought”
Mrs Carter appears to be confusing locating and compiling with
disbursement.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is
available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/la...
Yours sincerely,
M. White
From: Sam Carter
Chichester District Council
12 February 2009
Dear Mr White
Following Mr Frosts email to you dated today, please find attached
information relating to Planning application 01/02898/COU.
<<consultation sheet 01.2898.cou>> <<constraints sheet 01.02898.cou>>
<<4th Jan 01.02898.tif>> <<6.12.01 letter 01.02898.tif>> <<Plan 0190-P02
01.02898.tif>> <<Plan 0190 - P01 01.02898.tif>> <<Plan 0190 - P01
01.02898.tif rev 00.tif>> <<validation sheet 01.02898.tif>>
Kind Regards
Mrs S Carter
Administration Manager
Development Control
( (01243) 534552
: [email address]
+ Environment and Greener Living, Chichester District Council, East
Pallant House, 1 East Pallant, Chichester, West Sussex, PO19 1TY
For the latest news from Chichester District Council, please visit :
[1]http://www.chichester.gov.uk/latestnews
ue Think Green... do you need to print this?
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From: Andrew Frost
Chichester District Council
12 February 2009
From: Andrew Frost
Sent: 12 February 2009 12:59
To: '[FOI #4219 email]'
Cc: Karen Carter
Subject: FW: Internal review of Freedom of Information request -
Land adjoining White House Farm Chichester OS map ref SU8405NE LR title
WSX272832
Dear Mr White
Freedom of Information Request - Land adj White House Farm, Chichester
I am writing further to your e-mail dated 8th January 2009 and am sorry
that you are dissatisfied with the Council's response under the Freedom of
Information legislation. This matter has been passed to me to review and
my conclusions are set out below.
The Council's records have revealed four planning applications that relate
to the land you have identified. These are
1. 99/01698/TEL
2. 99/02118/TEL42
3. 99/02358/FUL
4. 01/02898/COU
The Council's files in respect of the first three of these applications
are now available to members of the public via the Councils website under
the 'Public Access' facility. They are therefore freely available to view
and I consider that as a consequence, the Council has complied with its
obligations with under the Freedom of Information Act/Environmental
Information Regulations in respect of this information.
In respect of the 4th application (01/02898/COU), certain documents within
the file are available for the public to view on the Council's website and
you may therefore access this information direct. The remainder is not
however available by this means so I am arranging for it to be provided
electronically to you within the next 10 days.
I am satisfied that the Council has fulfilled its obligations in relation
to FOI/EIR and I trust this is of assistance to you. If you are still
dissatisfied with the Council's response you may complain to the
Information Commissioner at : Information Commissioner's Office, Wycliffe
House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.
Yours sincerely
Andrew Frost
Assistant Director Development Management
( (01243) 534892
: [email address]
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From: M. White
7 May 2009
Dear Andrew Frost,
Words cannot express how appalled I am by this subterfuge. It is
clear from information available elsewhere that Developers intent
on placing hundreds of buildings & supporting infrastructure on
this open countryside have had numerous meetings with Local
representatives and officials. This is clearly a Planning and
environment issue and it is not conceivable that elected
representatives of Chichester District Council or officials have
not attended meetings or had correspondence on this matter.
Chichester District Council have deliberately not responded
accurately to this request.
Yours sincerely,
M. White
From: Andrew Frost
Chichester District Council
2 June 2009
Dear Mr White
Freedom of Information Request - Review
I am writing further to your email dated 7th May 2009 in relation to the
above land and would advise that I have taken your email as a request to
review the response given by the Council on the 12th February 2009. I can
add nothing further in relation to planning applications that have been
submitted but can advise that this land was considered through the Local
Development Framework Core Strategy work in previous years as having
potential for being a strategic development area. The Core Strategy was
found unsound in June 2007 and was subsequently withdrawn.
That document identified land to the west of Chichester and White House
Farm as being one of the "options" for strategic development, the document
however did not allocate a specific site or sites. As that document has
been withdrawn it has no planning purpose and has been discarded.
There are a number of sites around Chichester, which are being considered
for strategic development to help meet the requirements in the South East
Plan for this area. White House Farm and the land around it remains one of
these "options ". Work is being undertaken as part of the production of
the Core Strategy to evaluate the "options" in order to direct future
development to the most suitable location or locations.
The Council were due to consult on a Preferred Core Strategy in April this
year, however, due to issues regarding waste water treatment and A27
improvements, the consultation has been deferred. These issues are being
addressed with the relevant authorities and the Council hopes to formally
consult later this year.
I confirm that the Council holds some base material relating to the
specific site you refer to. This material will assist the Council in the
preparation of its new Core Strategy and is consequently unfinished and
comprises incomplete data. I therefore take the view that it is
inappropriate to release this information at this stage as a public
consultation will occur later at which material will be provided. In view
of the consultation to come, I consider the public interest is in
retaining the information pending consultation on the new Core Strategy.
If you would like to be updated on the progress of the Local Development
Framework, please let me know and your details will be added to the
Council's database.
I am now satisfied that the Council has fulfilled its obligations in
relation to FOI/EIR and I trust this further information is of assistance
to you. If you are still dissatisfied with the Council's response you may
complain to the Information Commissioner at : Information Commissioner's
Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.
Andrew Frost
Assistant Director Development Management
( (01243) 534892
: [email address]
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