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From: sanni
17 June 2009
Dear Sir or Madam,
Could you please provide written evidence of THE LAW that requires
flesh and blood human beings to pay income tax. I understand that
statutes and acts are defined as legislated rules of a SOCIETY
which have been given the force of law. A society is defined as a
number of people joined BY MUTUAL CONSENT to deliberate, determine
and act for a common goal. So in esscence the STATUTES only apply
to those who give consent ie. are a willing member of the society.
So please provide evidence of the LAW (not the statute) which
states that all humans (NOT PERSONS) are obliged to pay income tax
(including humans who are not willing consenting members of
society). Please note, that if your response includes the word
PERSON or PERSONS, you have failed to answer my request, as persons
are not flesh and blood humans, they are LEGAL FICTIONS.
Yours faithfully,
sanni: abrim.
From: Sharpe, John (G&S)
HM Revenue and Customs
18 June 2009
Dear Sani,
I refer to your request which exactly duplicates, including spelling
mistakes and the heading, an earlier request on this website previously
answered by HMRC. I assume you cut and pasted the text from that
overlooking the response which is here
[1]http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/in...
Yours sincerely,
John Sharpe
Governance & Security
HM Revenue & Customs
Room 4/52
100 Parliament Street
London
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Fax 020 7147 0666
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From: sanni
18 June 2009
Dear Sharpe, John (G&S),
yes, it is a copy indeed, but you still didn't answer the question
to us and the mistakes doesn't matter
we, the poeple do not understand why we pay income tax
The income tax act is basically mentioning the Person, Trustees,
Taxpayer and so on's liability, ..
But i can't find any answer for who is liable and if the employer
is liable. The act does not mention human being or man, which we
are after all and not corporations
- Key is liable
...the act says IF the taxpayer, person, trustees, individuals are
liable.. (that means, even you must proof that they are liable to
do so), then he pay this and that
Person: corporation or body politic (black 1st Ed)
(we are man)
Taxpayer: A person chargeable with a tax, one from whom government
demands a pecuniary contribution towards its support (black 1st Ed)
(we are still man)
Tax: To impose a tax; to enact or declare that a pecuniary
contribution shall be made by the persons liable, for support of
government. (black 1st Ed)
(again talking about persons)
Pecuniary: monetary; relating to money; consisting of money
Income: is a gain or increase arsing from corporate activities
(black 1st Ed) says: The return in money from one's business,
labor, or capital invested; gains, profit or revenue. (ARE WE
INVESTORS?)
Furthermore: "Income" means that which comes in or is received from
any business or investment of capital, without reference to the
outgoing expenditures; while "profits" generally means the gain
which is made upon any business or investment when both receipts
and payments are taken into account.
Gain:: not legally defined, but means increase in value
wages: the compensation agreed upon by a master to be paid to a
servant, or any other person hired to do work or business for him
(its pretty clear)
Now the employment act is difference
It talks about wages, payments, deductions and workers
It also mentions that the employee pays wages and not income
The two concepts "income and wages" obviously are not necessarily
the same.
If you receive wages from a company, it is not legally called
income, if it
is not income, then as a wage earning man, you are not liable to
pay income taxes
i hope it makes sense and hope for you respond with a clear lawful
constitutional statement
thanks
Yours sincerely,
sanni
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