Green Lanes N4 yellow Box Junction Compliance

Deniss Baronov made this Freedom of Information request to Haringey Borough Council

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From: Deniss Baronov

5 January 2010

Dear Sir or Madam,

Could you, please, provide me with information concerning the
Green Lanes N4 junction with Warham Road yellow Box Junction
compliance.

Yours faithfully,
Deniss Baronov

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Haringey Borough Council

6 January 2010

Dear Mr Baronov,

Freedom of Information Request: Reference  810002150

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Ms Sirkku Pietikäinen

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From: Deniss Baronov

3 February 2010

Dear Sirkku Pietikäinen,

May I have an update on my request, please?

Yours sincerely,
Deniss Baronov

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From: FOI Team Inbox
Haringey Borough Council

4 February 2010

Dear Mr Baronov,

I apologise that you have not yet received a response to this enquiry.

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Alan Stanton left an annotation ( 4 February 2010)

Dear Mr Baronov,

I am a Haringey councillor and have read your request about this junction box.

A couple of years ago, I and two other councillors, Ray Dodds and Martin Newton, took a particular interest in this topic.

I was assured - I think in 2008 - that Haringey's junction box markings had all been reviewed and either made compliant, or that enforcement had been suspended. For example, the box at the junction of Ferry Lane and Jarrow Road N17 was re-painted. Also the box at the junction of Redvers Road and Lordship Lane, Wood Green N22.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alanstanton...

I'm concerned that you have not had a timely reply to your F.o.I, request about the Warham Road / Green Lanes box.

Can I please have your permission to email Haringey requesting to be copied into the reply you are sent? My email address is:
alan.stanton@virgin.net

Thanks.

Alan Stanton
Tottenham Hale ward councillor

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From: Bolger Niall
Haringey Borough Council

4 February 2010

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Dear Deniss Baronov

Freedom of Information Request

Thank you for your email dated 05 January 2010 in which you requested the
following.

Could you, please, provide me with information concerning the Green Lanes
N4 junction with Warham Road yellow Box Junction

compliance.

The yellow box marking at the junction of Green Lanes N4 and Warham Road
is compliant with the type of marking prescribed in the Traffic Signs
Regulations and General Directions 2002, (SI 3113 of 2002) diagram 1043.
The marking conveys the requirements prescribed by regulation 29(2) and
part II of schedule 19. Please find in the attached document extracts
from the regulation for the details. The full version of the Traffic
Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 can be found at
[1]http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk.

Prior to the council enforcing this yellow box marking, the marking has
been checked on site to confirm the installation was done in accordance
with the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002.

If you have any queries please do not hesitate to contact Bethlehem Girma
on 0208 489 1763 or email at [email address].

If you wish to apply for an internal review on the decision to exempt
information or complain about the way your request was handled please
contact:

Freedom of Information Team

7^th Floor

River Park House

225 High Road
Wood Green
N22 8HQ

Telephone: 0208 489 2550

Fax: 0208 489 2533

Email: [2][email address]

Yours sincerely

Niall Bolger

Director of Urban Environment

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From: Deniss Baronov

11 February 2010

Dear Bolger Niall,

Thank you for your reply. May I have a scanned copy of the
compliance approval (official paper) with signatures and stamps,
please?

Yours sincerely,

Deniss Baronov

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From: Bolger Niall
Haringey Borough Council

11 February 2010

I am out of the office until 15 February 2010.

In my absence please contact Beverley Taylor, AD Frontline Services, tel
020 8489 1785 who will be covering for me.

If the matter is urgent, my office will be able to contact me directly.

Many thanks

Niall Bolger
Director of Urban Environment

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From: Selby Jane
Haringey Borough Council

19 February 2010

Dear Mr Baronov

Freedom of Information Request: Reference 810002307

I acknowledge your request for information received on 11 February 2010.

This information request will be dealt with in accordance with the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 and we will send the response by 11
March 2010.

Your request is being dealt with by Sustainable Transport.

Yours sincerely

Jane Selby
Senior Complaints Officer
Frontline Services
020 8489 1708

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From: O'Mahony Tracy
Haringey Borough Council

11 March 2010

Dear Deniss Baronov

Freedom of Information Request

Thank you for your email dated 11 February 2010, regarding the yellow
box marking compliance at the junction of Green Lanes N4 and Warham
Road, N4.

As explained in our previous response, the yellow box marking at the
junction of Green Lanes N4 and Warham Road is compliant with the type of
marking prescribed in the Traffic Signs Regulations and General
Directions 2002, (SI 3113 of 2002) diagram 1043. If a yellow box
marking is compliant with the specification of the regulation, it does
not require a special authorisation from Department for Transport.
Therefore, as the yellow box marking at the junction of Green Lanes N4
and Warham Road is compliant with the regulation, it does not have a
special Authorisation and there is no specific documentation that we can
provide.

If you have any queries please do not hesitate to contact Bethlehem
Girma, Project Engineer for Transport Policy & Projects, on 0208 489
1763 or email at [email address].

If you wish to apply for an internal review on the decision to exempt
information or complain about the way your request was handled please
contact:

Freedom of Information Team
7th Floor
River Park House
225 High Road
Wood Green
N22 8HQ
Telephone: 0208 489 2550
Fax: 0208 489 2533
Email: [email address]

Yours sincerely

Niall Bolger
Director of Urban Environment

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Alan Stanton left an annotation (19 August 2010)

Dear Mr Baronov

I have read the reply from Mr Niall Bolger sent on 4 February 2010.

You may also be interested to know that I received an email on 9 May 2008 from Ms Beverley Taylor, then an Assistant Director in Haringey Urban Environment Department. The email included information about the previous compliance status of this particular yellow box junction. You may have seen the full version of Ms Taylor's email posted as an annotation to a F.O.I. by Christopher Turner on this website.

Below are the relevant paragraphs:

Alan Stanton
Tottenham Hale ward councillor

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"My investigation of this issue has shown that:

"During a routine check of our yellow box junctions in February 2007 it came to light that this one did not comply with requirements. We therefore ceased to enforce it and instructed our contractor to amend the yellow box marking. Although amendments were made that same month, removing sections of the box at the junctions of Warham Road and Salisbury Road, the contractor did not remove the relevant sections on Green Lanes. This meant that the box marking was still non-compliant. Unfortunately, the engineer who checked the work did not identify this and reported that the work was completed.

"In relation to the Poulton appeal, this ticket was issued in November 2006 and appealed initially in December 2006 on the basis of mitigating circumstances, not the legality of the junction. In light of the above review, when we received this appeal in March 2007, we should have cancelled the ticket. However as there were reasons to challenge the grounds of the appeal, we did not. As you are aware, when the adjudicator heard the appeal it was allowed as the junction was non-compliant. However, when we received this decision in May 2007, the assumption was unfortunately made that the work in February 2007 had already resolved the problem.

"In relation to Maria Gavriel's appeal on 19th March, the contravention was that she had stopped within the Green Lanes/Warham Road box junction and she admitted this. However, the adjudicator, referring to the previous decision, said that the box junction was not legal because it did not go to the corners of the junction but went beyond them. When we received this decision we realised the earlier error made (ie in February 2007). We then suspended enforcement and instructed our contractor to amend the box marking. The new marking was implemented on 1 May 2008.

"I hope that this addresses your concerns on these matters. I would like to reassure you we have now put procedures in place to address all these issues. We are again reviewing all yellow box junctions to confirm that they comply with the regulations and ensuring that works are checked by an engineer. We systematically log and review all remedial action to be taken arising from adjudicator decisions and we have provided additional training for all staff in how to deal with representations."

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