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Keith made this Freedom of Information request to Attorney General’s Office
The request was refused by Attorney General’s Office.
From: Keith
8 December 2008
Dear Sir or Madam,
Please supply information as to the governments legal meaning of
the word PERSON as written in the statute books and how it relates
the a human being. I have researched and there are many who state
with some authority that a human being is NOT a person but HAS a
person that is made a legal entity (a corporate sole) on
registration of the birth of the child.
Thank you.
Yours faithfully,
Keith
From: James Ross
Attorney General’s Office
10 December 2008
Dear Keith
Thank you for your email to the Attorney Generals Office making a
request under the Freedom of Information Act.
I have looked into your request and have to inform you that your request
does not fall within the Freedom of Information Act as it is a request
for legal interpretation of the word Person, in which this office is
unable to assist.
The Attorney General is principal legal advisor to government and as
such is unable to offer legal advice or assistance to individuals.
You may wish to visit the Statute Law website, the website address is
www.statutelaw.gov.uk
Regards
James Ross
Correspondence Unit
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From: Keith
10 December 2008
Dear James,
Thank you for your swift response.
I would like to make it clear that I am NOT seeking legal advice,
rather information that should be made public and is in the general
publics interest to be aware of.
I would draw your attention to the maxim: Ignorance of the law is
no excuse.
I would argue that for that maxim to be true then one would have to
be in possession of ALL the facts. If the definition used in common
language is different to the one used to enforce statute, then the
public are at a distinct disadvantage...and may even be being
purposely deceived. -- surely not!
As you can see, the Interpretation Act 1978 c.30 includes these
definitions for "PERSON":
“Person” includes a body of persons corporate or unincorporate.
[1889]
(5) The definition of “person”, so far as it includes bodies
corporate, applies to any provision of an Act whenever passed
relating to an offence punishable on indictment or on summary
conviction.
Both definitions use the word "includes" but do not define
"PERSON".
If you are adamant that the information that I require does not
fall under the FoI Act, would it be possible to request that
information as a personal request to be received by email?
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,
Keith
From: James Ross
Attorney General’s Office
10 December 2008
Dear Keith
As my previous email informed you, your request does not fall under the
Freedom of Information Act as it is asking for the definition/legal
interpretation of the word "Persons" and as I also informed you this
office is unable to offer you legal advice.
I can only suggest that you seek your own independent legal advice or
access your local library.
I am sorry that this office is unable to assist you further.
Regards
James Ross
Correspondence Unit
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From: Keith
10 December 2008
Dear James,
Thank you once again for your prompt reply.
I accept and am grateful your response and would just like to
clarify that by your suggestion you are inferring that the
definition that the government use (as opposed to one found in a
common dictionary) can be found in my local library?
Thank you for your time
Yours sincerely,
Keith
n.r.b. left an annotation (15 July 2010)
If you don't mind me saying so, you went about it the wrong way, you need to research the question first, establish legal definitions,such as, "PERSON. A man considered according to the rank he holds in society, with all the rights to which the place he holds entitles him, and the duties which it imposes. 1 Bony. Inst. no. 137.
A human being considered as capable of having rights and of being charged with du¬ties; while a "thing" is the object over which rights may be exercised.
Persons are divided by law into natural and artificial. Natural persons are such as the God of nature formed us; artificial are such as are created and devised by human laws,
for the purposes of society and govern¬ment, which are called "corporations" or "bodies politic." 1 131. Comm. 123." .
Then establish FOI validity,
and then present them with a choice of confirmation or denial.
nrb
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