FOI REQUEST: COMMON PURPOSE Training
A Freedom of Information request to Dyfed-Powys Police Authority by David Grothier
This request has had an unusual response, and requires attention from the WhatDoTheyKnow team.
David Grothier
18 October 2008
Dear Sir or Madam. Or the Chief Constable
Please kindly inform me under the FOI Legislation exactly how many
serving police officers and civilian staff have undergone Common
Purpose training or seminars and at whose expense and what were the
costs involved.
Yours faithfully,
David Grothier.
Williams Anne - Police Authority
Dyfed-Powys Police Authority
20 October 2008
The Police Authority acknowledges receipt of your request. This
information is held within the Force and with your permission I can
forward it to the relevant department within the Force. We look forward
to hearing from you.
Anne Williams
Cynorthwyydd Personol/Personal Assistant
Awdurdod Heddlu Dyfed-Powys Police Authority
Rhif ffon/Telephone No: 01267 226440
Facs/Fax: 01267 226448
Estyniad Mewnol/Internal Ext: 23285
E bost/E mail: [email address]
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David Grothier
20 October 2008
Dear Williams Anne - Police Authority,
Thank for your reply, Yes please forward my request to those
responsible
Yours sincerely,
David Grothier
FOI
Dyfed-Powys Police Authority
21 October 2008
Dear Mr Grothier
Reference No: 649/2008
Thank you for your request for information dated 18th October 2008
concerning Common Purpose training, received on 21st October 2008.
Could you please clarify the time period for which you require the
information?
After receiving your reply, your request will then be considered and you
will receive the information requested within the statutory timescale of
20 working days as defined by the Freedom of Information Act 2000,
subject to the information not being exempt or containing a reference to
a third party. If you choose not to respond then your request will
remain unanswered.
There may be a fee payable for the retrieval, collation and provision of
the information you request. If this is the case you will be informed
and the 20 working day timescale will be suspended until we receive
payment from you. If you chose not to make a payment then your request
will remain unanswered.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Dyfed Powys Police and look forward to your response.
Yours sincerely,
Cath Butler
Swyddog Gweinyddol/Administrative Officer
Uned Rhyddid Gwybodaeth/Freedom of Information Unit
Pencadlys yr Heddlu/Police Headquarters
Caerfyrddin/Carmarthen
Ffon/Tel: 0845 330 2000 est/ext: 23586
Llinell Uniongyrchol/Direct Line: 01267 226596
[email address]
Dyfed Powys Police provides you the right to request a re-examination
of your case under its review procedure. If you decide to request such a
review and having followed the Force's full process you are still
dissatisfied, then you have the right to direct your comments to the
Information Commissioner who will give it consideration.
E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT
This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are not necessarily the view of Dyfed-Powys Police. It is intended only for the person or entity named above.
If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator and erase this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient or the
employer or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, review, dissemination, distribution or
copying of the e-mail is strictly prohibited. This e-mail and any files transmitted within it have been checked for all known viruses. The recipient
should still check the e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses, as Dyfed-Powys Police accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus
transmitted by this e-mail.
DATGANIAD CYFRINACHEDD E BOST
Nid yw'r e-bost hwn nag unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef o angenrheidrwydd yn adlewyrchu barn Heddlu Dyfed-Powys. Bwriedir yr e-bost
ar gyfer y person neu'r sefydliad a enwir uchod. Os derbyniwyd yr e-bost hwn trwy gamgymeriad, dylid hysbysu'r anfonydd a dileu'r e-bost oddi ar eich
system os gwelwch yn dda. Os na'i fwriadwyd ar eich cyfer chi ac nid chi yw'r cyflogwr na'r asiant sy'n gyfrifol am roi'r e-bost i'r derbynnydd bwriadedig,
fe'ch hysbysir gan hyn na chaniateir i chi ddefnyddio, adolygu, lledaenu, dosbarthu na chopio'r e-bost ar unrhyw gyfrif. Archwiliwyd yr e-bost hwn
ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef am firws. Serch hynny, dylai'r derbynnydd hefyd archwilio'r e-bost a'r ffeiliau sydd ynghlwm am firws
oherwydd nid yw Heddlu Dyfed Powys yn derbyn cyfrifoldeb am unrhyw ddifrod a achosir gan unrhyw firws a drosglwyddir trwy gyfrwng yr e-bost hwn.
David Grothier
21 October 2008
Dear FOI,
The past eight years will be sufficient for my purpose thank you.
Yours sincerely,
David Grothier
FOI
Dyfed-Powys Police Authority
17 November 2008
Dear Mr Grothier
I write in connection with your request for information concerning
"Common Purpose training "dated the 18 October 2008 and received by
Dyfed Powys Police on the 21 October 2008.
Your request has now been considered and firstly I am obliged under S
(1) (a) of The Freedom of Information Act 2000 to tell you whether the
information requested is held by the Force. I am in a position to inform
you that the Force does not hold information relevant to your request as
outlined in the attached response.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Dyfed Powys Police.
Yours sincerely
Debby Jones MBA
Pennaeth Rhyddid Gwybodaeth/Head of FOI
Uned Rhyddid Gwybodaeth/Freedom of Information Unit
Pencadlys yr Heddlu/Police Headquarters
Caerfyrddin/Carmarthen
Ffon/Tel: 0845 330 2000 est/ext 23442
Llinell Uniongyrchol/Direct Line: 01267 226596
[email address]
Dyfed Powys Police provides you the right to request a re-examination of
your case under its review procedure (copy enclosed). If you decide to
request such a review and having followed the Force's full process you
are still dissatisfied, then you have the right to direct your comments
to the Information Commissioner who will give it consideration.
E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT
This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are not necessarily the view of Dyfed-Powys Police. It is intended only for the person or entity named above.
If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator and erase this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient or the
employer or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, review, dissemination, distribution or
copying of the e-mail is strictly prohibited. This e-mail and any files transmitted within it have been checked for all known viruses. The recipient
should still check the e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses, as Dyfed-Powys Police accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus
transmitted by this e-mail.
DATGANIAD CYFRINACHEDD E BOST
Nid yw'r e-bost hwn nag unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef o angenrheidrwydd yn adlewyrchu barn Heddlu Dyfed-Powys. Bwriedir yr e-bost
ar gyfer y person neu'r sefydliad a enwir uchod. Os derbyniwyd yr e-bost hwn trwy gamgymeriad, dylid hysbysu'r anfonydd a dileu'r e-bost oddi ar eich
system os gwelwch yn dda. Os na'i fwriadwyd ar eich cyfer chi ac nid chi yw'r cyflogwr na'r asiant sy'n gyfrifol am roi'r e-bost i'r derbynnydd bwriadedig,
fe'ch hysbysir gan hyn na chaniateir i chi ddefnyddio, adolygu, lledaenu, dosbarthu na chopio'r e-bost ar unrhyw gyfrif. Archwiliwyd yr e-bost hwn
ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef am firws. Serch hynny, dylai'r derbynnydd hefyd archwilio'r e-bost a'r ffeiliau sydd ynghlwm am firws
oherwydd nid yw Heddlu Dyfed Powys yn derbyn cyfrifoldeb am unrhyw ddifrod a achosir gan unrhyw firws a drosglwyddir trwy gyfrwng yr e-bost hwn.
David Grothier
17 November 2008
Dear Sir or Madam,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Dyfed-Powys Police
Authority's handling of my FOI request 'FOI REQUEST: COMMON PURPOSE
Training'.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is
available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/fo...
Yours sincerely,
David Grothier
David Grothier
18 November 2008
Dear Sir or Madam,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Dyfed-Powys Police
Authority's handling of my FOI request 'FOI REQUEST: COMMON PURPOSE
Training'.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is
available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/fo...
Yours sincerely,
David Grothier
Williams Anne - Police Authority
Dyfed-Powys Police Authority
18 November 2008
Dear Mr Grothier
Your correspondence has been forwarded to the Force FOI dept for their
attention.
Anne Williams
Cynorthwyydd Personol/Personal Assistant
Awdurdod Heddlu Dyfed-Powys Police Authority
Rhif ffon/Telephone No: 01267 226440
Facs/Fax: 01267 226448
Estyniad Mewnol/Internal Ext: 23285
E bost/E mail: [email address]
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David Grothier
19 November 2008
Dear Williams Anne - Police Authority, Thank you
Yours sincerely,
David Grothier
FOI
Dyfed-Powys Police Authority
19 November 2008
Dear Mr Grothier
I acknowledge receipt of your e-mails of the 17 November and the 18
November 2008 received on the 18 November 2008 and today the 19 November
2008. The e-mails were forwarded to the Dyfed Powys Police Force (the
Force) by the Dyfed Powys Police Authority (the Authority).
Your initial request was transferred by the Authority to the Force
following confirmation by yourself that it was in order for the request
to be forwarded to the Force. Your request was then processed by the
Force under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and a response was
provided to you on the 17 November 2008.
I note that you are requesting an internal review of Authority's
handling of your FOI request. Can I take it therefore that you are not
requesting an internal review of the handling of your request by the
Force? However if this is not the case and you are requesting an
internal review of the handling of your request by the Force it would be
of assistance to us if you could outline the issues that you are
dissatisfied with in order that the matter can be considered in line
with the Force's Freedom of Information appeals process.
Please do not hesitate to contact me on the telephone number below
should you wish to discuss the matter further.
Yours sincerely
Debby Jones MBA
Pennaeth Rhyddid Gwybodaeth/Head of FOI
Uned Rhyddid Gwybodaeth/Freedom of Information Unit
Pencadlys yr Heddlu/Police Headquarters
Caerfyrddin/Carmarthen
Ffon/Tel: 0845 330 2000 est/ext 23442
Llinell Uniongyrchol/Direct Line: 01267 226596
[email address] <mailto:[email address]>
Dyfed Powys Police provides you the right to request a re-examination of
your case under its review procedure. If you decide to request such a
review and having followed the Force's full process you are still
dissatisfied, then you have the right to direct your comments to the
Information Commissioner who will give it consideration.
E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT
This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are not necessarily the view of Dyfed-Powys Police. It is intended only for the person or entity named above.
If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator and erase this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient or the
employer or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, review, dissemination, distribution or
copying of the e-mail is strictly prohibited. This e-mail and any files transmitted within it have been checked for all known viruses. The recipient
should still check the e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses, as Dyfed-Powys Police accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus
transmitted by this e-mail.
DATGANIAD CYFRINACHEDD E BOST
Nid yw'r e-bost hwn nag unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef o angenrheidrwydd yn adlewyrchu barn Heddlu Dyfed-Powys. Bwriedir yr e-bost
ar gyfer y person neu'r sefydliad a enwir uchod. Os derbyniwyd yr e-bost hwn trwy gamgymeriad, dylid hysbysu'r anfonydd a dileu'r e-bost oddi ar eich
system os gwelwch yn dda. Os na'i fwriadwyd ar eich cyfer chi ac nid chi yw'r cyflogwr na'r asiant sy'n gyfrifol am roi'r e-bost i'r derbynnydd bwriadedig,
fe'ch hysbysir gan hyn na chaniateir i chi ddefnyddio, adolygu, lledaenu, dosbarthu na chopio'r e-bost ar unrhyw gyfrif. Archwiliwyd yr e-bost hwn
ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef am firws. Serch hynny, dylai'r derbynnydd hefyd archwilio'r e-bost a'r ffeiliau sydd ynghlwm am firws
oherwydd nid yw Heddlu Dyfed Powys yn derbyn cyfrifoldeb am unrhyw ddifrod a achosir gan unrhyw firws a drosglwyddir trwy gyfrwng yr e-bost hwn.
David Grothier
20 November 2008
Dear Sir or Madam,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Dyfed-Powys Police
Authority's handling of my FOI request 'FOI REQUEST: COMMON PURPOSE
Training'.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is
available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/fo...
Yours sincerely,
David Grothier
Claire Godden
Dyfed-Powys Police Authority
10 December 2008
Dear Mr Grothier, Following your request for Dyfed Powys Police
Authority Authority to conduct an internal review in connection
with your request for information dated 18th October 2008 received
on the 18th October 2008, concerning Common Purpose Training. Your
latest post (20th November) was directed to the Police Force's
Freedom of Information Department and was passed to the Authority
on the 3rd December 2008.
I would be grateful if you could outline the basis of your request
for a review, as the information is not held by the Authority it is
difficult to determine the issues to be subjected to a review.
Claire Godden Policy Officer Dyfed Powys Police Authority
David Grothier
10 December 2008
Dear Claire Godden, My request is perfectly straightforward and
should therefore be both acceptable and clearly understandable to
any British person with an average level of education, unless of
course they are choosing to be deliberately evasive.
Yours sincerely,
David Grothier
Godden Claire
Dyfed-Powys Police Authority
5 January 2009
Dear Mr Grothier, thank you for your reply dated 10th December 2008. Unfortunately due to the lack of detail submitted to the Authority by you, we have only been able to undertake a limited review of the Authority's handling of your FOI request. In hindsight the Authority acknowledge that its assumption that the Force held the information you requested was overly optimistic. As a result we have reviewed our processes and in the future will inform "requesters" that the Authority does not hold such information, and that they "may" wish to apply to the Police Force who "may" hold such information. This concludes our internal review. If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact either myself or the Authority on [Dyfed-Powys Police Authority request email]
Claire Godden
Swyddog Polisiau / Policy Officer
Awdurdod Heddlu Dyfed Powys Police Authority
Rhif ffôn/Tel No: 01267 226440
Pencadlys est / HQ Ext: 23282
e-bost/email: [email address]
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David Grothier
6 January 2009
Dear Godden Claire,
I SEE DYFED POWYS POLICE IS STILL AS SLIPPERY AND DECEPTIVE AS
EVER.
Yours sincerely,
David Grothier
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