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A Williams made this Freedom of Information request to South Wales Police Authority
The request was refused by South Wales Police Authority.
From: A Williams
1 November 2010
Dear South Wales Police Authority,
During the evening of 21st September I returned home from holiday
to discover that sometime during the previous ten days the Police
had broken into my house, - allegedly because a neighbour had
expressed concern for my safety.
This break-in resulted in -
A broken Front Door
A hole in an inside wall'
What is the procedure for persuading the Police to bear the cost of
repairs?
I have -
Made several telephone calls to South Wales Police HQ in Bridgend
Had a visit from two Police Officers
Written to South Wales Police HQ's Legal Department, enclosing
relevant documentation.
Written to South Wales Police HQ's Professional Standards
Department,enclosing relevant documentation and using Recorded
Delivery.
Yhe ONLY response I've received, (about a month ago), has been a
written acknowledgement of my letter from the Legal Department.
Yours faithfully,
A Williams
Note - if anyone else reads this letter and knows the answer to my
question, please let me know.
South Wales Police Authority
4 November 2010
Many thanks for the attached mail but unfortunately this matter is not dealt with by our office. I have therefore forwarded your details onto the FOI Department for the Police.
I have asked that they respond to you directly.
Regards
Leah Lewis
Chief Executive's Office
South Wales Police Authority
Tel / Ffôn: 01656 869366
Internal / Mewnol: 20724
Fax / Ffacs: 01656 869407
Internal / Mewnol: 20172
www.southwalespoliceauthority.org.uk
www.awdurdodheddludecymru.org.uk
Have your say on policing in South Wales. Visit our website to take part: www.southwalespoliceauthority.org.uk/en/...
Rhowch eich barn ar blismona yn Ne Cymru. Ewch i'n gwefan i gymryd rhan:
www.awdurdodheddludecymru.org.uk/cy/cont...
Click here to see the Association of Police Authorities' views on policing
Cliciwch yma i weld safbwyntiau Cymdeithas Awdurdodau'r Heddlu ar blismona
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South Wales Police Authority
4 November 2010
Dear A Williams
With regard to my earlier email can you please confirm that you are happy for the police to respond to your current FOI request as this matter is not dealt with by the Police Authority.
Many thanks.
Regards
Leah Lewis
Chief Executive's Office
South Wales Police Authority
Tel / Ffôn: 01656 869366
Internal / Mewnol: 20724
Fax / Ffacs: 01656 869407
Internal / Mewnol: 20172
www.southwalespoliceauthority.org.uk
www.awdurdodheddludecymru.org.uk
Have your say on policing in South Wales. Visit our website to take part: www.southwalespoliceauthority.org.uk/en/...
Rhowch eich barn ar blismona yn Ne Cymru. Ewch i'n gwefan i gymryd rhan:
www.awdurdodheddludecymru.org.uk/cy/cont...
Click here to see the Association of Police Authorities' views on policing
Cliciwch yma i weld safbwyntiau Cymdeithas Awdurdodau'r Heddlu ar blismona
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From: A Williams
5 November 2010
Dear South Wales Police Authority,
I'd be happy for ANYONE within the senior ranks of South Wales
Police to deal with the subject - because to date everyone has BEEN
AVOIDING DOING SO.
Yours faithfully,
A Williams
South Wales Police Authority
8 November 2010
Dear Sir/Madam,
I write to advise that I am in receipt of your e-mail dated 5^th November,
regarding procedures.
This letter confirms that your request has now been passed to our FOI
officers who will review the contents of your request and establish if a)
your request is valid under the FOI Act and b) if any further
clarification is required from you to allow us to progress further.
Should you wish to contact us regarding your request, please quote
reference number 703/10 on any correspondence. Should you wish to contact
us by e-mail, please do so using the mail box
[1][email address]. (Please do not reply directly to my own
e-mail address as this may result in a further delay to your request).
South Wales Police provides you the right to request a re-examination of
your case under its review procedure (copy attached). If you decide to
request such a review and having followed the Constabulary's full process
you are still dissatisfied, then you have the right to direct your
comments to the Information Commissioner who will give it consideration.
Kind Regards
Sally Hillman
Freedom of Information Officer/Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth
South Wales Police HQ / Pencadlys yr Heddlu
Cowbridge Road / Heol y Bont-Faen
BRIDGEND / PENYBONT AR OGWR
CF31 3SU
( Internal / Mewnol: 20955
( External / Allanol: 01656 869439
: Email / E-bost : [2][email address] /
[3][email address]
[4]www.south-wales.police.uk / [5]www.heddlu-de-cyrmru.police.uk
[6][email address]
P Please consider the environment - do you really need to print this
email? / Ystyriwch yr amgylchedd - oes angen argraffu'r e-bost hwn mewn
gwirionedd
Crime in South Wales at its lowest for 25 Years.
South Wales Police is the 9th most improved force in England & Wales for
overall crime reduction with over 15,000 fewer victims of
crime. Mae troseddau yn Ne
Cymru ar eu lefel isaf er 25 mlynedd.Yn nalgylch Heddlu De Cymru y bu*r
9fed gostyngiad mwyaf mewn troseddau drwy Gymru a Lloegr, gyda 15,000 yn
llai yn dioddef trosedd.
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From: A Williams
8 November 2010
Dear South Wales Police Authority,
I can't request a RE-EXAMINATION of my case given that the ONLY
RESPONSES I'VE HAD TO DATE have been, first, a letter, over a month
ago, acknowledging the letter I sent to the Legal Department, and,
second, a letter, sent on the 2nd November, acknowledging the
letter I later sent to the Professional Standards Department.
Yours faithfully,
A Williams
South Wales Police Authority
18 November 2010
Dear Mr. Williams
Thank you for your email.
I have forwarded your email to the Freedom of Information department of South Wales Police as the appropriate department to consider the queries that you have raised.
I trust that since you have previously given your permission for a previous email relating to the same matter to be forwarded to this department that you will be satisfied with the action that I have taken.
Please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any queries or indeed if I can assist in any other way.
Kind regards
Francesca Skinner
Quality of Service Manager / Rheolwraig Ansawdd Gwasanaethau
South Wales Police Authority / Awdurdod Heddlu De Cymru
Tel / Ffôn: 01656 869366
Internal/Mewnol: 20740
Fax/Ffacs: 01656 869407
TÅ· Morgannwg, Police Headquarters, Bridgend, CF31 3SU
TÅ· Morgannwg, Pencadlys yr Heddlu, Pen-y-bont ar Ogwr CF31 3SU
www.southwalespoliceauthority.org.uk
www.awdurdodheddludecymru.org.uk
Have your say on policing in South Wales. Visit our website to take part: www.southwalespoliceauthority.org.uk/en/...
Rhowch eich barn ar blismona yn Ne Cymru. Ewch i’n gwefan i gymryd rhan: www.awdurdodheddludecymru.org.uk/cy/cont...
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South Wales Police Authority
30 November 2010
Dear Mr Williams,
I write in connection with your request for information dated 5^th
November 2010 regarding procedures.
Your request for information has now been considered and our response is
attached.
I trust that this information answers your request. Should you have any
queries and wish to contact us by e-mail, please do so using the mail box
[1][email address]. (Please do not reply directly to my own
e-mail address as this may result in a delay to your request).
South Wales Police provides you the right to request a re-examination of
your case under its review procedure (copy attached). If you decide to
request such a review and having followed the Forces full process you are
still dissatisfied, then you have the right to direct your comments to the
Information Commissioner who will give it consideration.
Kind Regards
Sally Hillman
Freedom of Information Officer/Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth
South Wales Police HQ / Pencadlys yr Heddlu
Cowbridge Road / Heol y Bont-Faen
BRIDGEND / PENYBONT AR OGWR
CF31 3SU
( Internal / Mewnol: 20955
( External / Allanol: 01656 869439
: Email / E-bost : [2][email address] /
[3][email address]
[4]www.south-wales.police.uk / [5]www.heddlu-de-cyrmru.police.uk
[6][email address]
P Please consider the environment - do you really need to print this
email? / Ystyriwch yr amgylchedd - oes angen argraffu'r e-bost hwn mewn
gwirionedd
Crime in South Wales at its lowest for 25 Years.
South Wales Police is the 9th most improved force in England & Wales for
overall crime reduction with over 15,000 fewer victims of
crime. Mae troseddau yn Ne
Cymru ar eu lefel isaf er 25 mlynedd.Yn nalgylch Heddlu De Cymru y bu*r
9fed gostyngiad mwyaf mewn troseddau drwy Gymru a Lloegr, gyda 15,000 yn
llai yn dioddef trosedd.
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From: A Williams
4 December 2010
Dear South Wales Police Authority,
Rephrasing my question -
When a Police Officer has acknowledged, in writing, breaking into
somebody's house, what is the procedure in your area that the owner
of the property should use in an attempt to try to persuade your
Force to pay for rectification of the damage caused.
First, this request for information does NOT identify anyone,
(although Sgt Hagg has identified his own existence).
Second, - if your Force doesn't know whether it has the relevant
information there is something seriously wrong, - although judging
by the difficulty I had in even discovering that I had to write to
the Legal Department it wouldn't surprise me if your didn't.
Yours faithfully,
A Williams, (BA)
SENIOR CITIZEN
South Wales Police Authority
4 December 2010
Thank you for your e mail, however I am am out of the office until Tuesday
7th December 2010. My mailbox is unattended in my absence.
Thank You
Sally Hillman
Freedom Of Information Officer
Crime in South Wales at its lowest for 25 Years.
South Wales Police is the 9th most improved force in England & Wales for
overall crime reduction with over 15,000 fewer victims of
crime. Mae troseddau yn Ne
Cymru ar eu lefel isaf er 25 mlynedd.Yn nalgylch Heddlu De Cymru y bu*r
9fed gostyngiad mwyaf mewn troseddau drwy Gymru a Lloegr, gyda 15,000 yn
llai yn dioddef trosedd.
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South Wales Police Authority
29 December 2010
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Dear Applicant,
I write in connection with your appeal dated 4^th December 2010 concerning
Freedom of Information Request 703/10.
Your request for information has now been considered and our response is
attached.
I trust that this information answers your request. Should you have any
queries and wish to contact us by e-mail, please do so using the mail box
[1][email address]. (Please do not reply directly to my own
e-mail address as this may result in a delay to your request).
South Wales Police provides you the right to request a re-examination of
your case under its review procedure (copy attached). If you decide to
request such a review and having followed the Forces full process you are
still dissatisfied, then you have the right to direct your comments to the
Information Commissioner who will give it consideration.
Kind Regards
Matthew Jones
Freedom of Information Officer / Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth
Corporate Information and Technology Department / Adran Technoleg a
Gwybodaeth Corfforaethol
South Wales Police / Heddlu De Cymru
( Internal / Mewnol: 20635
( External / Allanol: 01656 306163
( Mobile / Symudol:
: E-mail / E-bost: [2][email address]
: www.south-wales.police.uk/www.heddlu-de-...
Crime in South Wales at its lowest for 25 Years.
South Wales Police is the 9th most improved force in England & Wales for
overall crime reduction with over 15,000 fewer victims of
crime. Mae troseddau yn Ne
Cymru ar eu lefel isaf er 25 mlynedd.Yn nalgylch Heddlu De Cymru y bu*r
9fed gostyngiad mwyaf mewn troseddau drwy Gymru a Lloegr, gyda 15,000 yn
llai yn dioddef trosedd.
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A Williams left an annotation ( 4 May 2011)
I eventually received the full cost of repairs - without needing to go to court. However the police refused to tell me both who had, allegedly, phoned them expressing concern for my safety, and the reason given for that alleged concern.
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John Poole left an annotation (30 December 2010)
Additionally if you belive the police were reckless in breaking into your home make a complaint for the criminal offence of Criminal Damage. If they failed to carry out all appropriate and necessary enquiries before breaking into your home they were 'reckless as to whether damage would be caused' by their actions.
Get your MP on the case as well. South Wales Police will continue with brushing you off as long as it is necessary and they see you have taken no action to place them before the courts!
They fully expect you to weary and go away!
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