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From: P. John
15 April 2010
Dear Ministry of Justice,
In response to an earlier FoI request, you disclosed that four
people were cautioned in 2008, for offences under s1(1),(2),&(7) of
the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (Part I) (*).
Further, I note from MoJ answers to Parliamentary Questions, you
also hold statistical data about the cautions issued for particular
offences by specific Police forces (see example **).
Please could you list for me - by Police force - the total number
of cautions issued for offences under RIPA (Part I) s1(1),(2),&(7)
for the year 2008.
I am particularly interested in data for the Metropolitan Police,
City of London Police, and Thames Valley Police.
Yours faithfully,
P. John
(*)http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ri...
(**)http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=...
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Ministry of Justice
15 April 2010
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From: Data Access & Compliance Unit
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16 April 2010
Dear Mr John, Thank you for your email. Having looked at your request,
it seems we have already previously responded to this request and have
provided you with a response.
I have attached a copy of the response for your information.
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From: P. John
16 April 2010
Dear Data Access & Compliance Unit,
thank you for your note.
Your earlier response summarised data at the 'England and Wales'
level.
I would be grateful if you would now provide me with the
information broken down by Police force area.
So for each force area, the number of cautions issued for RIPA s1
offences in 2008 please.
many thanks,
Yours sincerely,
P. John
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From: Data Access & Compliance Unit
Ministry of Justice
19 April 2010
Freedom of Information Request FOI/64704/10
Data Access & Compliance Unit
Information Directorate
Zone 6 B
Post point 6.25
102 Petty France
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T 020 3334 5151
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19-APR-10 Our Ref:FOI/64704/10
Dear Mr P. John,
SUBJECT: Freedom of Information Request
Thank you for your correspondence of April 16, 2010, in which you asked
for cautions issued for RIPA s1 Offences by Police Force under the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA) from the Ministry of Justice
(MoJ).
You will receive a response from us by May 18, 2010. Your request has
been passed to the appropriate business unit within the MoJ, and they
will write to you with their decision by this date.
The FOIA does provide a number of exemptions. A qualified exemption
requires that before relying on it we must consider the public interest
test. If the information you have requested is covered by a qualified
exemption(s) under FOIA, the Department is allowed to take longer than
20 working days to respond. This is because in such circumstances we are
required to consider the public interest issues when deciding whether or
not to disclose the information requested.
If more time is needed to consider the public interest issues under a
qualified exemption(s), we will write to you and inform you of the
revised date you can expect to receive a response to your request.
If you have any queries regarding this request please do not hesitate to
contact us. Please quote ref: FOI/64704/10 in all future correspondence.
Yours sincerely,
James Noble
(Sent on behalf of Kate Holliday)
Data Access and Compliance Unit
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From: Data Access & Compliance Unit
Ministry of Justice
21 April 2010
Data Access & Compliance Unit
Information Directorate
Zone 6 B
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102 Petty France
London
SW1H 9AJ
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[email address]
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Mr P John
[FOI #32784 email]
21^st April 2010 Our Ref: FOI/64749/10/JN
Dear Mr John,
SUBJECT: Freedom of Information Request
Thank you for your letter of the 29^th March 2010, in which you asked for
information of the number of cautions, issued for RIPA s1 offences in
2008, from the Ministry of Justice (MoJ).
I can confirm that the Ministry of Justice (MoJ) does not hold any
information relating to your request. However, you may wish to contact the
Home Office as they may hold the information you have requested:
Home Office
Direct Communications Unit
2 Marsham Street
London
SW1P 4DF
Email: [1][email address]
[2]http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/about-us/fr...
If you have any queries regarding this request please do not hesitate to
contact us. Please quote ref: FOI/64749/10/JN in all future
correspondence.
Yours sincerely,
James Noble
Data Access and Compliance Unit
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From: P. John
24 April 2010
Dear Ministry of Justice,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Ministry of Justice's
handling of my FOI request 'Cautions issued for RIPA s1 Offences by
Police Force'.
Please can I draw your attention to Home Office circular 016/2008?
(link below).
"In order to ensure accurate reporting of all simple cautions, it
is important that the correct data is sent to the Ministry of
Justice ... on a monthly basis".
That being the case, I believe you do hold the data I requested.
Perhaps as "CrimSec 3" forms, or as "NG form/upload", for the
purposes of Offences Brought to Justice (OBTJ)?
Please disclose to me, for each Police force area, the number of
cautions issued for offences under RIPA (Part I) s1(1),(2),&(7) for
the year 2008.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is
available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ca...
Yours faithfully,
P. John
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/about-us/pu...
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24 April 2010
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From: Over, Darren (ARU)
Ministry of Justice
27 April 2010
Internal Review IR/64851/10
Data Access & Compliance Unit
Information Directorate
Zone 6 B
Post point 6.25
102 Petty France
London
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T 020 3334 5058
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27-APR-10 Our Ref:IR/64851/10
Dear P John,
Thank you for your correspondence of April 24, 2010, in which you asked
for an Internal Review into handling of your request for information
with reference number FOI/ 64749 (Old reference).
Your request for an Internal Review is being handled in accordance with
the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and will be passed to the Unit that
will carry out this process.
You will be contacted separately by the person conducting the review but
in the meantime please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any
queries. Please quote Ref: IR/64851/10 in all future correspondence.
Yours sincerely,
Darren Over
(Sent on behalf of Kevin Stroud)
Data Access and Compliance Unit
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From: Evans, Michael
Ministry of Justice
12 May 2010
Mr Peter John
Whatdotheyknow
E-mail address: [FOI #32784 email]
Date: 12 May 2010.
Our Ref: 64851
Dear Mr John,
Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FoIA)
Thank you for your e-mail of 24 April in which you requested that we
carry out an internal review of our handling of your request for the names
of offenders cautioned under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act
2000 (RIPA) in 2008.
Your request has been passed to me to consider as I carry out reviews of
previous FoIA decisions on behalf of the department . I have now
completed my review and would like to begin by stating that I will be
upholding our previous decision that we do not hold the information you
requested for the following reasons.
In our response of 25 March we explained that the Ministry of Justice did
not hold this information as we only hold statistical data on the number
of people cautioned under RIPA, and advised that such information will be
held by individual police forces in England and Wales. We went on to
advise that since the police forces in England and Wales come within the
remit of the Home Office you may wish to contact them directly and
provided the attached link to their e-mail address:
[1][email address]
I can confirm that individual police forces provide the Ministry of
Justice with statistical data on the number of people cautioned under RIPA
but this does not include the offender's name. I understand that we have
already provided you with the statistical data we hold on the number
of offenders cautioned under RIPA for 2008.
I am therefore satisfied we do not hold the names of offenders who were
cautioned under RIPA s.1(1) offences in 2008. I would advise that you
make a request to individual police forces in England and Wales for this
information.
I trust that this answers your query but if you are not satisfied with
this response you have a further right to ask the Information Commissioner
to review this decision. The Information Commissioner can be contacted at
the following address:
Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
E-mail: www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk
<http://www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk/>
I hope that you find this response useful.
Kind Regards,
Michael
Michael Evans| Internal Review Case Adviser | Data Access & Compliance
Unit | 102 Petty France | Ministry of Justice | 020 3334 3237.
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From: Perry, Dave (OCJR)
19 May 2010
Dear Mr John
With reference to your email request of 16^th April, please see the
attached reply letter.
regards
Dave Perry
Justice Systems Analytical Services
Ministry of Justice
Email address: [email address]
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From: P. John
20 May 2010
Dear Mr Perry,
thank you for your reply to my FoI request
(http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ca...).
It seems you are protecting the criminals involved in those
offences at the expense of the victims.
If the MoJ will not indicate which police force issued cautions for
RIPA s1 offences in 2008, how are victims of those criminals
supposed to obtain documentary evidence of the cautions for the
purpose of seeking compensation?
Yours sincerely,
P. John
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