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Bike Parking Tax, objection numbers, for and against

spannermonkey made this Freedom of Information request to Westminster City Council

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From: spannermonkey

21 March 2010

Dear Westminster City Council,
Having imposed a bike parking tax,

Please tell me how many objections you got for each of two
consultations that you that were carried out, and how many of the
objections you replied to individually

I know that you do (or most certainly should have these figure on
record).

I also want the number of supporting responses you received, during
each of the two consultation mention above.

(I would consider failing to produce these figures gross
incompetence since the new bike parking tax was imposed after
carrying out two expensive consultation the object of which was to
RECORD the numbers of people who did and did not want the proposed
tax.

If you are seriously going to tell me that you do not hold these
figures, then I suggest you contact Mr Peter Large and ask him for
the figures, and if he hasn't got them, then let him know he really
is in trouble.

Yours faithfully,

spannermonkey

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Westminster City Council

22 March 2010

Confirmation of Freedom Of Information Request

Thank you for your request for information.

Your request details have now been recorded and will be passed on to the
appropriate Divisional Records Officer for action.

This Freedom Of Information Request was based on the following
information:

Name: spannermonkey
Address: see email address
Email: [FOI #31224 email]
Telephone:
Request Details: Re: Motorcycle Parking consultation

Please tell me how many objections you got for each of two consultations
that you that were carried out, and how many of the objections you replied
to individually

I also want the number of supporting responses you received, during each
of the two consultation mention above.

FOI Reference Number: 5165
Target Completion Date: 21/04/2010

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From: Customer Relations
Westminster City Council

24 March 2010


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From: spannermonkey

24 March 2010

Dear Customer Relations,
Having looked at your reply, you have failed to say how many
responses you have had that supported the new bike parking tax.

So, I'll ask again; Please state the number of supporting responses
you had for each of the two consultation carried out.

Yours sincerely,

spannermonkey

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Westminster City Council

25 March 2010


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Dear Sir or Madam,

Regarding the supporting responses to the consultations:

As stated previously this information is not held by Westminster City
Council (WCC). All correspondence received is not categorised into "for or
against" the Motorcycle Policy.

WCC were able to produce the number of objections because as part of this
process for impleminting the Traffic Orders the public were given the
opportunity to object to the scheme.

Yours sincerely

Customer Relations
[email address]

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From: spannermonkey

25 March 2010

Dear Customer Relations,
let me get this absolutely clear.

You are saying that you carried out two consultation (which I now
expect your next reply to contain the cost for each) and you do not
know how many responses you had in favour of the new bike parking
tax that the consultation was carried out specifically to find what
the public response was.

This is bearing in mind you know the number of people that said
they were against it.

If you are unable to say how many response you had in favour of the
tax, then I will be expecting an answer from a higher ranking
official who can explain how your council spent the amounts (that
you are to reply to me with)and failed to COUNT ALL REPLIES FOR AND
AGAINST.

I suppose you expect me to think that its ok to have an election
and only count the votes that you want, and not to count any you
don't like.

Yours sincerely,

spannermonkey

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From: FOI
Westminster City Council

25 March 2010

Dear Spannermonkey

Thank you for your email seeking further clarification with regard to our
response to your recent Freedom of Information Request (our reference
5165).

As per our previous correspondence, the council conducted 2 consultations
regarding the proposed Motorcycle parking scheme. Our response clearly
states the number of responses received during this consultation period as
per your request. As the second consultation was for objections to making
the scheme permanent, all responses were judged as objections. Therefore,
no responses in support were received as this was not the aim of the
consultation.

Additionally, as per the responses you have received and responses to
similar previous requests (available via WhatDoTheyKnow) the council does
not count or categorise all general correspondence. Therefore, the council
does not hold the information you have requested. The council is not able
to provide any additional clarification on this point and consequently we
will not enter into further correspondence on this matter.

I note from your correspondence that you wish to know how much the
consultations regarding the Motorcycle Parking scheme cost the council.
This is a new request for information as defined by the Freedom of
Information Act and acknowledgement will be provided under separate cover.

Advice and Assistance
The remainder of your email is not a valid request for information as
defined by the Act as it is not a request for recorded information held by
the authority and as such, will not be responded to. For further guidance
on how to make a request under the Act, please refer to the Commissioner's
website:
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Yours sincerely

Catherine Preston
Knowledge and Information Management Team
Information Services
Westminster City Council
101 Orchardson Street
London
NW8 8EA
Tel: 020 7641 3332
Fax: 020 7641 2872
Email: [Westminster City Council request email]

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From: spannermonkey

16 March 2011

Dear FOI,
Having attended the appeal court on March the 14/15 2011, the
numbers for and against the bike parking tax received during the
consultation were stated on the recorded during the proceedings.

DO I HAVE TO GET A TRANSCRIPT OF IT FROM THE COURT????

Or will you check with your legal department to find out the
numbers stated, and that was uncontested, during the trial???

I look forward to your answer.

Yours sincerely,

spannermonkey

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From: FOI
Westminster City Council

28 April 2011

Dear spannermonkey

Thank you for your recent email regarding the recent appeal to court. The full judgement for the case to which you refer is available from the following website and the figures which I believe you enquiring are covered within paragraph 30 of the judgement:

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admi...

As this information is reasonably accessible by other means it is exempt from disclosure under Section 21 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000. This is an absolute exemption and not subject to a public interest test.

If you are dissatisfied with this response, please set out your grounds in writing to the address below. You are also entitled to contact the Information Commissioner pursuant to Section 50 of the Act and for your convenience, his address is provided below.

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF

Yours sincerely

Catherine Preston
Knowledge and Information Management Team
Information Services
Westminster City Council
101 Orchardson Street
London NW8 8EA
Tel: 020 7641 3921
Fax: 020 7641 2872
Email: [Westminster City Council request email]
www.westminster.gov.uk

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shaun left an annotation (28 April 2011)

Information Commisioners Office (and internal review) required as they have obviously lied to you when they said they didn't have the info and then once you pointed out to them they had provided it to the court, they suddenly had the info but didn't need to provide it as it was published else where.

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From: spannermonkey

10 May 2011

Dear FOI,

WELL LOOK AT THAT, (tut tut tut)

YOU DID HAVE THE ANSWER ALL ALONG.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT MAKE YOUR DEPARTMENT LOOK LIKE NOW???

Yours sincerely,

spannermonkey

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