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From: Adrian Clayton
2 October 2011
Dear Environment Agency,
You have recently launched a consultation entitled: "Consultation
on our charges for 2012 to 2015 (September 2011)". Annex B to this
consultation describes proposed changes to charging arrangements
for Water Resources (WR) abstraction licensing.
One of the proposals proposes to increase cost to the public in a
manner which is unclear, unpredictable, and evades scrutiny. In
order to judge whether this is proportionate, and to respond
appropriately to the public consultation, I wish to check the
reasoning behind the proposal. The proposal in question is that
within Annex B of the above consultation:
"Abstraction Pre-Application Charges: We are proposing one further
technical change to our current Abstraction Charging Scheme. At the
moment our Environmental Permitting charges have a provision for
charging for pre-application advice, in the case of bespoke
permits, after 15 hours of free advice. This is subject to
agreement in advance with the applicant. We propose to introduce a
similar facility in our Abstraction charging scheme for abstraction
pre-application advice. As with our EPR scheme up to 15 hours of
pre application advice would be provided without charge. Thereafter
we would have the facility to charge for work above and beyond
this. Of course operators are able to obtain such advice from other
service providers."
My request: please supply the summarized evidence which the EA has
used to propose 15 hours as an appropriate threshold at which to
begin charging in the specific case of abstraction pre-app. I
anticipate this will be a dataset breaking down the hours which
have been logged against individual WR pre-apps, and/or the text of
an internal review of hours logged. If in tabular form, this data
should state the purpose of each licence considered, and should
where available include any breakdown of man-hours per EA team
(e.g. Fisheries, Biodiversity, etc) and/or per head.
Please clearly state whether the above calculation of WR pre-app
hours has included or excluded hours spent on activities which
relate to non-WR permitting processes, e.g. EA National Fish Pass
Panel Approval, EA ADFR flood defence or land drainage consents.
Please also state whether evidence derived from the EA's EPR
activities played the minor, major, or sole part in proposing the
15-hour threshold in WR licensing. I do not require to receive
detailed evidence from EPR activities.
If the basis of the proposed threshold of 15 hours was something
other than formal evidence, please identify this basis.
I write in relation ONLY to the proposal cited above, within Annex
B. Please do not respond in relation to the other annexes or
proposals.
Yours faithfully,
Adrian Clayton
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Environment Agency
2 October 2011
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From: Enquiries, Unit
Environment Agency
7 October 2011
Dear Adrian,
Thank you for your e mail concerning our proposed charges for abstraction
licensing pre-application.
I have forwarded this to one of our subject specialists who will respond
to your enquiry as soon as possible.
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please do contact us.
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From: Waite, Alastair
Environment Agency
14 October 2011
Dear Mr Clayton,
Thank you for your request for information in regard to our current
consultation on charges, and specifically in relation to the planned
introduction of Abstraction pre-application charges.
We have an established principle under the EPR regime (installations,
waste facilities, water quality consents) relating to pre-application
work, where we provide up to 15 hours of pre-application advice free to a
potential applicant (less for simpler / cheaper permits).This
pre-application advice is to assist the potential applicant in
understanding the application process and what may required from them in
their application. The ultimate aim being to enable them to be able to
provide a complete application to us. This advice is supported by the
published guidance we make available to potential applicants.
For the EPR regime the initial “up to 15 hours” is funded from the EPR
charges income. It was considered that after this initial free time of up
to 15 hours, it was more appropriate to recover the cost of this advice
from the individual benefiting from this advice, rather than EPR
subsistence charge-payers.
The abstraction permit application fee of £135 is set at a level to
recover the administrative costs associated with the recording and
production of an abstraction licence after the application has been
determined.
This proposal to extend the common framework to include abstraction
licence pre-application advice allows for up to 15 hours of advice free to
the potential applicant and gives them the option of being charged a
clearly defined hourly rate if they wish to receive additional advice.
This allows us to provide helpful advice to potential applicants. We are
also aware that this advice can be sought from other sources and companies
are not obliged to seek our advice. Clearly the £135 application charge
does not recover the cost of provision of unlimited free application
advice. Our proposals will still result in the such application being
subsidised.
From this you will see that the proposal is based on principles of
applying cost recovery. Note that for simpler applications in EPR we only
offer one hour “free” pre application advice. And the thresholds are
chosen based on a judgement of seeking to be helpful to applicants
balanced with a reasonable attribution of costs. As it is based on
judgement and existing precedent, there is not the large dataset that you
referred to in your request.
Obviously with some abstraction pre-application advice this may include
the time to discuss the implications of the proposed permit on the water
environment, and its flora and fauna, with technical colleagues from
related functions. At the pre-application stage we would not be
undertaking technical assessments, but providing advice on the key issues
to be addressed within the application, and on how to provide a complete
application. This is in addition to the advice that we publish to help
potential applicants across our regulatory regimes.
We would welcome your views on the proposal to introduce the abstraction
pre-application charges and would invite you to respond to the
consultation via our website which can be found at
[1]https://consult.environment-agency.gov.u....
Yours sincerely,
Alastair Waite
Charges Strategy Advisor
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