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Bailey Review: Internet Service Providers

P. John made this Freedom of Information request to Department for Education

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From: P. John

7 June 2011

Dear Department for Education,

I read the Bailey Review with dismay, particularly his proposal for
involuntary mass communications surveillance by Internet Service
Providers. I believe communications companies have no business
monitoring private/confidential communications. It is entirely a
parental responsibility to supervise the use of communication
technology by children.

In his report Reg Bailey states that he held "meetings with over 40
stakeholders, (retail, advertising, manufacturers,
broadcasters, internet service providers, regulators, academics,
and parenting experts).A full list of organisations and individuals
interviewed can be found at Annex C of this report".

In appendix C of the report, I see few if any Internet Service
Providers listed. Though I see Tesco listed; they are principally a
supermarket retailer (and merely a reseller of other white label
telco services). Though I see Facebook listed; they are an American
web based application provider, not a UK Internet Service Provider.
The one exception is BSkyB, they are both a broadcaster and an
Internet Service Provider (but the capacity in which they met with
Mr Bailey is not stated).

Please could you disclose to me

- which ISPs did Reg Bailey meet before preparing this report
- the agenda, minutes, notes, presentations, or evidence provided
in the course of those meetings with ISPs

Yours faithfully,

P. John

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Department for Education

7 June 2011

Dear Mr John

Thank you for your recent email. A reply will be sent to you as soon as
possible. For information, the departmental standard for correspondence
received is that responses should be sent within 20 working days as you
are requesting information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

Your correspondence has been allocated the reference number 2011/0040574

Thank you.

Central Allocation Team

Public Communications Team

Tel: 0370 0002288
www.education.gov.uk

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Department for Education

28 June 2011

Dear Sir/ Madam
Thank you for your Freedom of Information request dated 7 June 2011, in
which you ask for details of the internet service providers (ISPs), Mr
Bailey met before preparing his report; and the agenda, minutes, notes,
presentations, or evidence provided in the course of the meetings with
ISPs.

Mr Bailey's report makes a number of recommendations to encourage
businesses to act responsibly and help support parents make the choices
they want for their children. One of these recommendations is to make it
easier for parents to block adult and age-restricted material. The aim is
that the internet industry should ensure that customers must make an
active choice over what sort of content they want to allow their children
to access. Mr Bailey very much advocates parents taking responsibility in
this area: under this recommended approach, it is they who decide what
their children will see.

On 7 February 2011, Mr Bailey attended a roundtable on parental controls,
chaired by Ed Vaizey, Minister for Culture, Communications and the
Creative Industries. ISPs who attended the meeting were BT, BSkyB,
Everything Everywhere, O2, TalkTalk and Virgin Media. The Internet Service
Providers' Association and Mobile Broadband Group (the relevant trade
bodies) were also represented.

On 18 May 2011, Mr Bailey attended a follow-up roundtable on parental
controls with the same attendees. There were no advance papers for either
of these roundtable meetings. However, there was an agenda and event
outline, and a note of both meetings, which are attached.

On 3 March 2011, Mr Bailey attended a meeting of the UK Council on Child
Internet Safety (UKCCIS) Executive Board, where BT and O2 were
represented. A note of this meeting is attached.

Mr Bailey also attended a UKCCIS Parental Controls Teach-in session on 14
April 2011. No record was made of the discussion between Mr Bailey and the
organisations which attended, but I have attached an agenda and the
presentations which were made to the meeting:

. Demo of Netintelligence Parental control software - Bill Strain
(Iomart Group CTO)

. Research overview - Parental Controls - Ian Neild

. TalkTalk Network filtering product overview - Alex Birtles

. Blocking Technologies Teach In - David Horncastle (BT)

Bill Strain did not give the presentation, as noted on the agenda, as he
was unable to attend. Instead, the presentation was given by Marc Kelly
from Netintelligence. Please note that Mike Galvin did not use any slides
for his welcome and introductions and the `final wrap up and close' of the
meeting session.
*Please note that due to the large size of the documents, all attachments
referenced in this email will be sent in a separate email.

Yours faithfully,

Joanne Leavesley
Supporting Children and Young People
[email address]
[1]www.education.gov.uk

Your correspondence has been allocated the reference number 2011/0040574.

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29 June 2011


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Dear Mr John

Thank you for your Freedom of Information request dated 7 June 2011, in
which you ask for details of the internet service providers (ISPs), Mr
Bailey met before preparing his report; and the agenda, minutes, notes,
presentations, or evidence provided in the course of the meetings with
ISPs.

I have attached the files that Joanne Leavesley referred to in her reply
sent to you yesterday.

Many Thanks

Jenny McMullen
Public Communications Unit
Department for Education
Tel: 0370 000 2288

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From: P. John

30 June 2011

Dear Jenny McMullen,
Thank you for this information, but I'm absolutely horrified.

I saw the word 'privacy' mentioned just once.

Covertly intercepting confidential communications and disclosing
the content (URLs) to a third party without the explicit consent of
*both* sender and recipient is a criminal offence.

For good reason; involuntary communications surveillance undermines
our democracy, threatens national security, and compromises the
vital security characteristics of the UK telecommunications
network.

The minutes you have disclosed include no mention of the critical
important of educating children (and adults) to understand and
protect the value of their freedom to communicate. That includes
the freedom to read and write what they like, with whom they like,
and without fearing covert Government communications surveillance
or censorship.

There is also a paramount need to protect the
privacy/security/integrity of UK communications networks against
spying and foreign espionage, in the national interest. This is
particularly distressing when vendors like Huawei are involved (as
with HomeSafe).

ISPs like BT/TalkTalk/Virgin/Vodafone have an exceptionally poor
track record for dishonesty. For example, the BT/Phorm debacle was
an international industrial espionage scam which BT attempted to
conceal from their subscribers. TalkTalk tested their HomeSafe
product on subscribers and web site operators without notification
or consent. And Vodafone are presently covertly divulging the
content of UK telecommunications to a third party in the USA (which
is an issue of national security).

Please can I make an offer, which I hope you will pass on to Ed
Vaizey. Please could you ensure that members of civil liberties
organisations like NoDPI, ORG, and other civil liberties groups
receive an invitation to attend these meetings?

Otherwise, me and people like me, will devote our lives to
resisting these endeavours using all possible technical and legal
means at our disposal. Resistance is inevitable if you do not take
a balanced, fair, democratic, and lawful approach to policy
development.

Democracy necessarily includes listening to views that conflict,
and the closed circle of people involved in this policy making
forum do not appear to be engaged in much debate.

Use of any communications network is *entirely* a matter of
responsible parental supervision. Whether it is post, phone, fax,
semaphore, smoke signals, email, or the web.

Ed Vaizey has my address, I would be grateful for his invitation. I
am a specialist in telecommunications.

Yours faithfully,
P. John

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