Allotment allocation in Liverpool

RA Kendall made this Freedom of Information request to Liverpool City Council

The request was partially successful.

From: RA Kendall

1 July 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

I would be grateful if you could please let me have details of the
following as a breakdown per allotment within the Liverpool City
Council boundary:

1. number of allotment plots per site;

2. number of vacant allotments;

3. number of disused or derelict allotments;

4. number (not identity) of allotment holders who have multiple
allotment plots on the site;

5. Of the allotment holders who have multiple allotment plots, how
may allotment plots does each have;

6. number of people on the waiting list for each site;

7. Date that the person at the head of each waiting list was added
to the waiting list;

8. Date that the last person was added to the waiting list;

9. If applicable; date on which the waiting list was closed;

10. Details of the number of persons who have been added to a
waiting list since it was officially closed;

11. number of people in each waiting list who already have an
allotment plot at that allotment;

Much of the information will be readily available from records kept
by Liverpool City Council. I realise that some information is kept
by each allotment society. However, as the function is delegated to
the societies by Liverpool City Council, such information is within
your control and can be collated.

I look forward to receiving your response in due course.

Yours faithfully,

RA Kendall

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From: Ali, Jawahier Sharif
Liverpool City Council

1 July 2009

Dear RA Kendall,

Acknowledgement in respect of request for information.

Thank you for your recent correspondence requesting information from the
City Council. Your request was received in our offices on 01/07/2009 and,
is being processed in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

A response will be sent to you as soon as possible and in any case within
the statutory deadline which is 20 working days from the working day after
your request was received.

For your information, the Act defines a number of exemptions which may
prevent the release of information you have requested. There will be an
assessment and, if any of the exemption categories apply, the information
will not be provided to you. You will be informed if this is the case.

Please quote the above reference number in all future communications.

Yours sincerely

Jawahier Sharif Ali (Fatima)

Information Officer

Legal Service

Liverpool City Council

Municipal Buildings

Dale Street,

Liverpool

L2 2DH

Tel: 0151 225 3132

email: [1][email address]

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From: Symm, Kevin
Liverpool City Council

21 July 2009


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Regards,

Kevin Symm

Senior Information Officer

Legal Services

Liverpool City Council

Municipal Buildings

Dale Street

Liverpool

L2 2DH

TEL: 0151 225 3007

[1][email address]

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From: RA Kendall

21 July 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Liverpool City
Council's handling of my FOI request 'Allotment allocation in
Liverpool'. A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence
is available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/al...

It is a commonly held view that some allotments are run by the
Committee as their personal property. As the Allotment Societies
are delegated powers by the Council, the requested information is
precisely the type of information envisaged by the Act which needs
to be made public to allow proper transparency and ensure the
Committees are exercising their powers fairly and appropriately.

I disagree that the time taken to gather the information would
exceed the appropriate limit. Your calculation assumes that a
physical meeting on site would be necessary. In fact, it would only
be necessary for the Council officer to e-mail or post a copy of my
request to each Secretary and ask them to provide this information.
The only time required would be (1) writing to each secretary and
(2) collating responses. Further, Council officials regularly visit
the allotments. Surely such information could be gathered on such
visits?

The method you have proposed is the most long-winded approach that
could be conceived and is, as such, unnecessary. Unless you suggest
that I submit separate requests for each allotment site, I suggest
that the Council attempts to find an alternative cost and time
effective method to gather the requested information. It is open to
me to apply for such information in a piecemeal fashion but it
would save everyone involved a great deal of time if efforts were
made now to collate this information in one place.

The protection available to the Council pursuant to Regulation 5 of
The Freedom of Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit
and Fees) Regulations 2004 to aggregate the costs of multiple
requests relates only to requests for the “same or similar
information”. As each request would relate to an entirely different
allotment site, it is unlikely that the Council would be able to
argue successfully that they are entitled to aggregate the costs of
each request.

I also note that the Council has included time spent travelling to
meet the Allotment Society Secretary as part of their calculation.
The Council does not appear to be entitled to include this time as
part of their calculation pursuant to Regulation 4(3) of the 2004
Regulations.

I also suggest that the information I have requested should already
be routinely requested from Allotment Societies to ensure that they
are effectively managing the allotments as agents for and on behalf
of the Council. It is strange that this does not appear to be the
case.

Yours faithfully,

RA Kendall

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From: RA Kendall

21 July 2009

Dear Mr Symm

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Liverpool City
Council's handling of my FOI request 'Allotment allocation in
Liverpool'. A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence
is available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/al...

It is a commonly held view that some allotments are run by the
Committee as their personal property. As the Allotment Societies
are delegated powers by the Council, the requested information is
precisely the type of information envisaged by the Act which needs
to be made public to allow proper transparency and ensure the
Committees are exercising their powers fairly and appropriately.

I disagree that the time taken to gather the information would
exceed the appropriate limit. Your calculation assumes that a
physical meeting on site would be necessary. In fact, it would only
be necessary for the Council officer to e-mail or post a copy of my
request to each Secretary and ask them to provide this information.
The only time required would be (1) writing to each secretary and
(2) collating responses. Further, Council officials regularly visit
the allotments. Surely such information could be gathered on such
visits?

The method you have proposed is the most long-winded approach that
could be conceived and is, as such, unnecessary. Unless you suggest
that I submit separate requests for each allotment site, I suggest
that the Council attempts to find an alternative cost and time
effective method to gather the requested information. It is open to
me to apply for such information in a piecemeal fashion but it
would save everyone involved a great deal of time if efforts were
made now to collate this information in one place.

The protection available to the Council pursuant to Regulation 5 of
The Freedom of Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit
and Fees) Regulations 2004 to aggregate the costs of multiple
requests relates only to requests for the “same or similar
information”. As each request would relate to an entirely different
allotment site, it is unlikely that the Council would be able to
argue successfully that they are entitled to aggregate the costs of
each request.

I also note that the Council has included time spent travelling to
meet the Allotment Society Secretary as part of their calculation.
The Council does not appear to be entitled to include this time as
part of their calculation pursuant to Regulation 4(3) of the 2004
Regulations.

I also suggest that the information I have requested should already
be routinely requested from Allotment Societies to ensure that they
are effectively managing the allotments as agents for and on behalf
of the Council. It is strange that this does not appear to be the
case.

Yours faithfully,

RA Kendall

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From: RA Kendall

10 August 2009

Dear Mr Symm,

I refer to my e-mail of 21 July 2009 and would be grateful to now
hear from you.

Yours faithfully,

RA Kendall

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From: Symm, Kevin
Liverpool City Council

20 August 2009

Dear Mr Kendall

I write in reference to your appeal regarding your request made under the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 regarding Liverpool allotments.

I can now inform you that our investigations are nearing and completion
and we hope to have a full response to you early w/c 24 August

In the meantime if I can be of any further assistance please do not
hesitate in contacting me.

Regards,

Kevin Symm

Senior Information Officer

Legal Services

Liverpool City Council

Municipal Buildings

Dale Street

Liverpool

L2 2DH

TEL: 0151 225 3007

[1][email address]

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From: Brown, Lawrence
Liverpool City Council

28 August 2009


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Dear Mr Kendall,

See attachments to this e-mail as the response to your appeal regarding
your Freedom of Information request about allotments in Liverpool.

Regards

Lawrence Brown

Legal Services,

Municipal Buildings,

Dale Street,

Liverpool, L2 2DH

Tel: 0151-225 2709

Fax:0151-225 2392

Email: [1][email address]

Internet: [2]www.liverpool.gov.uk

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From: Brown, Lawrence
Liverpool City Council

4 September 2009


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Dear Mr Kendall,

See enclosed response and updated spreadsheet with the information you
have requested.

Regards

Lawrence Brown

Legal Services,

Municipal Buildings,

Dale Street,

Liverpool, L2 2DH

Tel: 0151-225 2709

Fax:0151-225 2392

Email: [1][email address]

Internet: [2]www.liverpool.gov.uk

Liverpool's Year of the Environment 2009 -

Our City Our Planet [3]www.ourcityourplanet.org.uk

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