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From: Liz R (Account suspended)
16 November 2009
Dear Sir or Madam,
How many Children sent to 'ABA' or 'CABAS' schools have been
successful transferred to mainstream schools since January 1st 1998
- November 1st 2009 please, this is referring to children who no
longer need or never needed support after 'ABA' home programs or
schools-
(Too many schools that are deemed fit for learning disabled
children, 'ABA' schools, rate a one-size-fits-all, rote
learning system, and most have not helped or enabled children
to transfer to mainstream schools (as is meant to be a goal of
ABA schools) despite the pedagogy and repetition that is
Pavlovian, it is full of meaningless data- taking. For example,
some children have been at such schools for 10 years + and
still cannot speak, read or write and remain in nappies. ABA
schools cost approx 80-100K per child per year (transport and
escort included) The schools should broaden their scope to
include all approaches known (such as floor-play and
psychological help for children as well as counselling where
appropriate) and not to expect INSTANT responses - to do so
equates to nothing less than cruelty and eugenics.
How is it possible for children to instantly respond to instant
reinforcement if the learning disabled children suffer 'CAPD' or
suffer white matter ( have a slower information processing
neurological system than normally responsive children?)
If the children are behaviourally challenged only, why are they
deemed 'learning disabled'? Reflexes are an important part of 'ABA'
- and reflexes are not normal in many SLD children. This makes ABA
completely inappropriate as an education. In fact is is cruel in
many cases.
FMri scans can determine the difference, isn't it wiser to have
children have an fairly unintrusive fMri scan so as to assist all
plus Educational Psychologists to view the actual evidncence to see
if a child is learning- disabled or psychologically disturbed?
There must be discrimination between the two as SLD (severe
learning disabled) children are suffering and unable to respond to
ABA 'mands'or reach their potential appropriately and they are
being underestimated, therefore ABA is damaging self-esteem in
these children as well as wasting up to 100k per year per child at
these schools, please stop this horror for 'slower' children and
address behaviourally impaired children via their parents as well
as educationally
Yours faithfully,
Liz R
Department for Children, Schools and Families
17 November 2009
Dear Liz
Thank you for your recent email. A reply will be sent to you as soon as
possible. For information, the departmental standard for correspondence
received is that responses should be sent within 20 working days as you
are requesting information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
Your correspondence has been allocated the reference number
2009/0097117.
Thank you.
Central Allocation Team
Public Communications Team
Tel: 0870 0002288
www.dcsf.gov.uk
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Department for Children, Schools and Families
7 December 2009
Dear Ms R,
Thank you for your request for information, which was received, via email,
on 16 November. You requested information on how many children sent to
'ABA' or 'CABAS' schools have been successfully transferred to mainstream
schools from 1 January 1998 to 1 November 2009. I have dealt with your
request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
Following a search of the Department's paper and electronic records, I
have established that the information you requested is not held by this
Department.
The then Department for Education and Employment published a literature
review of research on Educational Interventions for Children with Autism
(Jordan, Jones, Murray, The University of Birmingham, School of Education)
in 1998, including Applied Behaviour Analysis (ABA). This found that
"there were sufficient consistent positive findings, across all the
studies of early intervention, to suggest that some form of early
intervention is warranted. For example, of the behavioural approaches,
the Lovaas method has been successful in demonstrating that early
intensive intervention in autism can be very effective for a substantial
proportion of children". However it also found that "in spite of the work
that has been done, and that has been planned, there is still no
compelling evidence that ABA through discrete trial methodology is more
effective than other approaches in autism" and called for further
research. The review as a whole found that while almost all the
educational interventions could point to evidence of success there was no
well-founded research to show that any one intervention was more effective
than all the others.
The Department of Children, Schools and Families understands from more
recent reviews that this is still the position. The law on special
educational needs (SEN) is based on the principle that children with SEN
should be assessed individually and decisions about the provision made for
them should reflect their particular needs. This is especially relevant
to conditions like autism and severe learning difficulties where
children's needs can vary widely and where different approaches will be
suitable for different children. Education Ministers want to see all
children with SEN, including those with autism and those with severe
learning difficulties, receiving appropriate provision for their needs in
appropriate settings.
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Yours sincerely,
Nigel Fulton
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From: Liz R (Account suspended)
7 December 2009
Dear Department for Children, Schools and Families,
Dear Nigel Fulton
Thank you for the reply.
I'm sorry but it does need to be considered by an independent panel
with this reply please- and I would appreciate the independent
panel considering this (as I put to the PM Brown today in a
proposed petition)
Your petition reads:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Stop
Professionals Labeling Children 'Autistic' For Profit
There are (approx) 500 known chromosomal abnormalities that
display autistic behaviours. (Quote from www.rarechromo.org) Each
chromosomally abnormal (in
this instance, read as ‘dis-abled’ as in ‘cannot live without
24hr care for life) - each case is unique. Autism is an
umbrella term. I’ve seen children with ADHD diagnosed autistic,
I’ve seen children with Fragile X diagnosed autistic- the word
‘autism’ actually is identifying a set of behaviours, in my
opinion it doesn’t exist as a single disease and is being
misdiagnosed by people cashing in on it, or for people wanting
it as label for one reason or other- genetic medicine is
improving exponentially, and soon ‘white matter’('Rain-Man')
and genetic abnormalities can be detectable from
emotional/nervous illness via fMri and mFish tests as can
mulitiple-discliplinary testing across a long period of time to
assess the unique special-needs of the unique child.
I was the first person to gain public funding for ABA/Lovass
provision for my 'autistic' son in the UK via a SENDIST Tribunal,
see case ref Lucy V Kensington & Chelsea- that case made legal
history as I won a 2nd Tribunal having lost the first- due to the
council, RBKC, in a letter to me, having 'agreed in principle' to
funding to the then home-program - they had violated a core tenet
of the Childrens' Act ('paramount interest of the child must always
come first')- my then representative- Peter Bibby- a non-practising
but practicing barrister (funding obtained via LSC FROM IPSEA) went
to high court to present this to a judge, whom apparently said it
had been illegal for Mr.Bibby to approach the High Court (bench) as
he is/was not of the bar - however, the kindness of the judge
allowed the second tribunal in any event- and it has been to my
sons' and my horror that it was allowed- that is my opinion alone
on the personal matter.
I am attempting here, to clarify for you, my knowledge of this
matter, having been trained by 5 consultants since 1996 to 2001 to
'supervisor/consultant behaviourist' level - and having been left
to employ, train and hire 'therapists' myself as well as having to
manage time-sheets and all manner of other things- In short, I had
been lied to about the program and all it entailed.
I introduced many of the consultants and other professionals
involved, Neil Martin to Peter Bibby to PEACCH to everyone - I
introduced all of them, and it's my belief this was a grave mistake
and the children have been used as guinea-pigs.
The first day of the 'Lovaas' program I had to witness my son being
thrown about, yelled at and pinned down - I was told to 'go into
the garden and get drunk so you don't hear him (my then 4 year old)
screaming' by a self-styled 'supervisor' from Birmingham, Kim
Fellows, who used and American accent that was false, she said 'as
it helps the kids more' - I wanted to inform the NSPCC and told
them of this 'PEACCH'was the name of our then small group (parents
who had begun 'Lovaas')
I had been assured everything was based on positive reinforcement -
it was not - I have fought a long, bitter battle to have 'aba'
changed to suit individual children and it has been considerably
altered -but it largely remains that which is simply as stated- a
pile of meaningless data that - in my sons' case- has not worked-
after 13 years of ABA he remains in nappies and non-verbal-this
costs up to and sometimes beyond 100k per year per child and is
another phrase for 'BEHAVIOURAL CORRECTION FACILITY' (one of the
consultants from Florida had worked in a young mans Prison, his
name is Vince Carbone) or eugenics- some children simply cannot
process this information of 'instant reinforcement'.
Here is one example of one disorder, there are many, such as 'white
matter' (Rain Mans' problem) these problems can be seen on fMri
(scan) and tested for using fIsh and mFish (example of genetic
tests) - 'psychological' autism probably translates to child abuse
and is a trauma disorder- children shouldn't be treated with
repetative commands if they are traumatised either- psychiatrically
ill children need comfort and nuture- not forced to do the same
puzzle 100 times over every day as my son was.
Here is one science paper (in progress)
Life can be worth living in locked-in syndrome.
Lulé D, Zickler C, Häcker S, Bruno MA, Demertzi A, Pellas F,
Laureys S, Kübler A.
Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioral Neurobiology,
University of Tübingen, Tübingen, Germany. [email address]
The locked-in syndrome (LIS) describes patients who are awake and
conscious but severely deefferented leaving the patient in a state
of almost complete immobility and loss of verbal communication. The
etiology ranges from acute (e.g., brainstem stroke, which is the
most frequent cause of LIS) to chronic causes (e.g., amyotrophic
lateral sclerosis; ALS). In this article we review and present new
data on the psychosocial adjustment to LIS. We refer to quality of
life (QoL) and the degree of depressive symptoms as a measure of
psychosocial adjustment. Various studies suggest that despite their
extreme motor impairment, a significant number of LIS patients
maintain a good QoL that seems unrelated to their state of physical
functioning. Likewise, depression is not predicted by the physical
state of the patients. A successful psychological adjustment to the
disease was shown to be related to problem-oriented coping
strategies, like seeking for information, and emotional coping
strategies like denial--the latter may, nevertheless, vary with
disease stage. Perceived social support seems to be the strongest
predictor of psychosocial adjustment. QoL in LIS patients is often
in the same range as in age-matched healthy individuals.
Interestingly, there is evidence that significant others, like
primary caregivers or spouses, rate LIS patients' QoL significantly
lower than the patients themselves. With regard to depressed mood,
ALS patients without symptoms focus significantly more often on
internal factors that can be retained in the course of the disease
contrary to patients with depressive symptoms who preferably name
external factors as very important, such as health, which will
degrade in the course of the disease. Typically, ALS patients with
a higher degree of depressive symptoms experience significantly
less "very pleasant" situations. The herein presented data strongly
question the assumption among doctors, health-care workers, lay
persons, and politicians that severe motor disability necessarily
is intolerable and leads to end-of-life decisions or euthanasia.
Existing evidence supports that biased clinicians provide
less-aggressive medical treatment in LIS patients. Thus,
psychological treatment for depression, effective strategies for
coping with the disease, and support concerning the maintenance of
the social network are needed to cope with the disease. Novel
communication devices and assistive technology now offers an
increasing number of LIS patients to resume a meaningful life and
an active role in society.
PMID: 19818912 [PubMed - in process]
Please check APHASIA and CAPD ('central autidory processing
disorder')
I also have some other scientific papers to support all this and am
happy to assist wherever possible, please feel free to contact me.
Yours faithfully,
Liz Lucy R
Department for Children, Schools and Families
8 December 2009
Dear Ms R,
Thank you for your recent email. A reply will be sent to you as soon as possible (where a response is required). For information, the departmental standard for correspondence received is that responses should be sent within 15 working days or 20 working days if you are requesting information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
Your correspondence has been allocated the reference number 2009/0102956
Thank you.
Central Allocation Team
Public Communications Team
Tel: 0870 0002288
www.dcsf.gov.uk
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From: Liz R (Account suspended)
9 December 2009
Dear Department for Children, Schools and Families,
reference number 2009/0102956
previous correspondence has been allocated the reference number
(Nigel Fulton) 2009/0097117.
Yours faithfully,
Liz R
Department for Children, Schools and Families
9 December 2009
Dear Ms R,
Thank you for your enquiry. Your request for an internal review which
was allocated the reference number of 2008/0102950 is with our policy
team so that they can draft a reply. We receive a large amount of
correspondence and all enquiries are dealt with strictly in the order
they are received. For your information, departmental standards mean
that we have 15 working days to reply to you or 20 working days in the
case of Freedom of Information requests. I can advise you that the
deadline for our reply to you is 8th January 2010.
Yours sincerely
Linda Ellis
Public Communications Unit
Department for Children, Schools and Families
Tel: 0870 000 2288
www.dcsf.gov.uk
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Department for Children, Schools and Families
29 December 2009
Dear Ms R,
Thank you for your email dated 7 December 2009 following your earlier
Freedom of Information (FOI)request concerning Applied Behaviour
Analysis(ABA)/Comprehensive Application of Behaviour Analysis to Schooling
(CABAS) schools.
I am not clear from your email what exactly you are asking for. In my
original response I said that if you were unhappy "with the way your
request has been handled" you should make a complaint to the Department
and that your complaint would be considered by an independent review
panel, who were not involved in the original consideration of your
request. Such an independent review panel would look at how your FOI
request was handled, not at the substance of your request, which was how
many children sent to ABA or CABAS schools have been successfully
transferred to mainstream schools from January 1 1998 to November 1 2009.
The first half of the title of your most recent email "internal review of
Freedom of Information request" would seem suggest that you want an
internal review within this Department of how your original request was
handled. However, the rest of the title of your email "ABA/CABAS schools
100K PA for what? Disability Discrimination" and the first substantive
paragraph of your email and the subsequent petition to the Prime Minister
suggests that what you want is an independent panel to conduct an inquiry
into ABA/CABAS schools, whether professionals are labelling children
'autistic' for profit and the diagnosis of autism more generally. I would
be grateful if you could say which type independent review you want.
I suspect from the substance of your email it is the latter. If that is
right, then it might be worth saying that this Department has no plans to
set up a review of ABA/CABAS schools or the use ABA/CABAS.
Yours sincerely,
Nigel Fulton
Special Educational Needs and Disability Division
[email address]
[1]www.dcsf.gov.uk
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From: Liz R (Account suspended)
29 December 2009
Dear Department for Children, Schools and Families,
I think two internal reviews are required, as you've clearly
pointed out, thank you
Yours faithfully,
Liz R
Department for Children, Schools and Families
18 January 2010
Dear Ms R,
Thank you for your email dated 29 December 2009 following earlier emails
in relation to your Freedom of Information (FOI) request about how many
children sent to ABA or CABAS schools have been successfully transferred
to mainstream schools between 1 January 1998 to 1 November 2009.
You indicated in your latest email that you would like two internal
reviews both to look at ABA/CABAS schools and whether professionals are
labelling children 'autistic' for profit and secondly to look at how your
original FOI request was handled. As I said in my most recent email the
Department has no plans to set up a review of ABA/CABAS schools.
On the request for an internal review of how your FOI request was handled,
you have the right to an independent review of the case but before we can
do that we need to know what it was about our handling of the case that
you were unhappy with. Your request was handled within the time limit for
response to requests and within the terms of the FOI Act and explained
that we do not hold the information that you requested. I am not clear on
the facts of the case what it is that you want reviewed.
Yours sincerely,
Nigel Fulton
Special Educational Needs and Disability Division
[email address]
[1]www.dcsf.gov.uk
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From: Liz R (Account suspended)
18 January 2010
Dear Department for Children, Schools and Families,
it is and was being handled with neglect of duty of care towards
vulnerable children in my view, I believe it violates the Childrens
Act. Bureaucracy is putting pedantry of vague legal points before
the best interests of children, that's a crime. That's also why I
request an internal review- see original request also and your own
reply - two reviews if not 3 perhaps- time wasting where children
is concerned is inexcusable and yet so often abused by council and
especially legal staff - harming children and families in the
process without any signs of remorse
Yours sincerely,
Liz R
Department for Children, Schools and Families
4 February 2010
Dear Ms R,
Thank you for your email of 18 January which reiterates your request for
an internal review of how your Freedom of Information request concerning
Applied Behaviour Analysis was handled.
I am writing to say that such a review will take place. I should make
clear however the scope of the review.
The Freedom of Information Act (the Act) makes reference to complaints
procedures at sections 45 (concerning the Code of Practice) and at section
50; both relate to circumstances where an applicant wishes to complain
about the response of a public authority to a request for information. The
Section 45 Code of Practice states that an internal review should provide
a fair and thorough review of the original decision. It states that it
should be impartial and undertaken by someone either senior or different
to the original decision maker.
Thus an internal review of the Department's response to your request
can only look at how your request for information was dealt with (for
example, whether a response was provided to you within the statutory time
limit of 20 working days, and whether you have received all the
information held by the Department in scope of your request to which you
are entitled under the Act), and not at the use of Applied Behaviour
Analysis by schools, the ethics of that particular intervention and
whether professionals are labelling children as "autistic" for profit. As
I have said in my two previous emails, the Department has no plans to set
up a review of ABA/CABAS.
I will write to you again with the outcome of the internal review into the
handling of your FOI request. If you are not happy with the outcome of
the review you can then complain to the Information Commissioner's Office.
Yours sincerely,
Nigel Fulton
Special Educational Needs and Disability Division
[email address]
[1]www.dcsf.gov.uk
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From: Liz R (Account suspended)
4 February 2010
Dear Department for Children, Schools and Families,
thank you; please understand that those who direct you not to
understand or assert that the Childrens' Act takes primacy over
FOIA is actually legally in the wrong
Yours Sincerely,
Liz R
Department for Children, Schools and Families
8 March 2010
Please see attached an letter from David Fitzgerald, Deputy Director
here in the Childcare Division, DCSF.
Valerie Bent
PA to David Fitzgerald
CHILDCARE
EYES Group
1st Floor
Dept for Children, Schools and Families
Sanctuary Buildings
Great Smith Street
London SW1P 3BT
Tel: 020 7340 7333 (internal 307333)
e-mail [email address]
website www.everychildmatters.gov.uk
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From: Liz R (Account suspended)
8 March 2010
Dear Department for Children, Schools and Families,
Thank you for your kind and considered reply.
In my view, it is still not legal of your department not to hold
this information or for this information not to be available via
your department. Thank you for your trouble in any event
Yours sincerely,
Liz R
Andrew Walker left an annotation (10 March 2010)
I 'm sorry that this comment may be of little use to you, I find the reply from David Fitzgerald in which says that children in home education or private education do not have UPN’s quite inconceivable. Is this how children go missing?
On Schools generally, Ofsted may be a better source of information than the DSCF as the department data does not even discriminate between primary and secondary special schools, let alone about the various current definitions of special need, nor does it track the changes within even these outdated categories.
My own interest is in a different part of the special needs spectrum but increasingly I am finding that the whole of the spectrum is riddled with preconceptions and prejudices, and whilst there are some forward thinking specialists interesting in using advances in medicine to develop their pedagogy, the bureaucracy is, as usual, about a generation behind.
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