J Hodges
[request-975-deb42279@whatdotheyknow.com]
04 July 2008
Dear J Hodges
Freedom of Information request – RFI20080709
Thank you for your request of 01 July 2008 under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 seeking
the following information:
“… the total cost to the BBC in the financial years 2006/7 and 2007/8 of the World Service
radio programme World Have Your Say.”
Scope of the Act
The BBC and the other public service broadcasters are covered by the Act only in respect of
information held for purposes “other than those of journalism, art or literature” (see Schedule I,
Part VI of the Act). This means that the BBC is not obliged to supply information held for the
purposes of creating output or which is closely associated with such creative activities. The BBC
considers that this includes information about the costs involved in creating its output, including
the cost to the BBC of producing a programme.1
The BBC will not be providing you with the information you requested as we consider that it is
not covered by the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (“the Act”); further, even if the information
was covered by the Act, it would be exempt from disclosure under section 43(2) of the Act
because to do so would prejudice the commercial interests of the BBC.
1 For more information about how the Act applies to the BBC please see www.bbc.co.uk/foi Please note that this guidance is not
intended to be a comprehensive legal interpretation of how the Act applies to the BBC.
Recent decision of the Information Commissioner
The BBC notes the recent decision notices of the Information Commissioner (ref. FS50067416). In
that decision, the Commissioner considered that the cost to the BBC of producing an in-house
programme did fall within the scope of the Act. However, in that case, the information was
exempt from disclosure under section 43(2) of the Act as its disclosure would be likely to
prejudice the commercial interests of the BBC.
The BBC’s approach to this case
The BBC does not agree with the Commissioner’s decision on the scope of the Act and reserves
its position on the matter. However, the BBC considers that in the event of a similar finding by the
Commissioner in this case, the information you have requested would also be exempt under the
Act under section 43(2) because disclosure would be likely to prejudice the commercial interests
of the BBC, in the following way.
Disclosure of this information may result in a ratchet effect among bids from independent
production companies (“indies”) for licence deals in respect of similar programmes. This could
lead to the position that indies will know that a minimum level of funds are available for a
particular type of programme or similar programme, and they will have an incentive to bid beyond
that level. This will prejudice the commercial interests of the BBC, in that it will be forced to
increase what it pays indies for those licence deals, or face losing the deals.
The effects described above are likely to cause grave prejudice of the BBC; they would be likely to
result in a choice between losing programmes and suffering a drop in the quality of our
programming; or increasing spending in order to retain programmes and thereby suffering a drop
in value for money to the licence payer.
Consideration of the public interest
As section 43 is a qualified exemption, the BBC has considered the public interest factors in this
case in accordance with section 2(2) of the Act: specifically, whether in all the circumstances of
the case, the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in
disclosing the information.
In favour of disclosure, the BBC recognises that there is a public interest in the following:
• There is a clear public interest in ensuring that the BBC is able to provide quality
programming and value for money in respect of its use of the licence fee. Both these
objectives will be threatened if a presumption is created in favour of the general disclosure
of information relating to in-house programming, for the reasons set out above; and
• Furthering the public’s understanding of and participation in public debate on a topic.
However, in order for the information to be of value to the public, it would be necessary
to have access to information about the costs of other broadcasts who commission similar
content. The majority of the broadcasting industry is not subject to the Act and therefore
information about their content is not subject to disclosure under the Act.
On the other hand, in considering factors that might weigh in favour of the public interest in
withholding, we took into account:
• That the BBC has robust controls on the way public money is spent which are already
evident. There are a broad range of oversight mechanisms, internal and external, including
the oversight of the BBC Trust, the Executive Board, Ofcom and the fair trading regime
and competition law in general. High level information on expenditure is provided in the
BBC Annual Report,2
• That the BBC is able to provide quality programming and value for money in respect of its
use of the licence fee. The BBC’s ability to do this is dependent upon maintaining a strong
bargaining position vis-à-vis suppliers during contractual negotiations, which may be
seriously undermined by releasing information of the type requested here;
• BBC World Service is not funded by the licence fee but by a Grant in Aid from the Foreign
& Commonwealth office. BBC World Service is also accountable to Parliament’s Public
Accounts Committee for the efficient and effective spending of the Grant in Aid.
• Information about the cost of BBC World Service is published each year. This information
is available online at http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us/annual_review/2006/ However
detail beyond this threatens to pose considerable harm to the BBC’s commercial interests,
without offering a proportionate benefit to the public. The 2007-8 World Service review is
due to be published next week.
I am satisfied, in terms of section 2 of the Act, that in all the circumstances of this case, the public
interest in maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information.
Thus, the BBC believes that the public interest is best served by allowing the BBC to continue to
compete on an equal basis with, the rest of the market, so that normal market forces may take
effect to the benefit of the general public.
Appeal Rights
The BBC does not offer an internal review when the information requested is not covered by the
Act. However, if you are not satisfied with our response, you do have the right to appeal to the
Information Commissioner. The contact details are: Information Commissioner's Office, Wycliffe
House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF, telephone 01625 545 700 or see
www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk
2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/annualreport/
In the event of a finding by the Information Commissioner that the Act does apply in this case,
should you then wish, the BBC is prepared to undertake an internal review of our decision on the
application of section 43 (commercial prejudice) to the information you have requested.
Yours sincerely,
Hugh Saxby
Head of Governance and Public Affairs