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Minutes
Project  SEMMMS A6 to Manchester Airport Relief Road
Job No
Date of Meeting  09/02/10
Meeting No
Page 1 of 5

Location of Meeting
Stockport Town Hall
Time of Meeting
14.30 hrs
Subject of Meeting
Manchester Airport – Options for Preliminary Design / Options Appraisal
Persons present including representation

Jim McMahon (JM)

SMBC
Martin Rigby (MR)

SMBC
David Taylor (DT)

SMBC
Nick Whelan (NW)

SMBC
David Bland (DB)

Manchester City Council (MCC)
John Twigg (JT)

Manchester Airport Group (MAG)
John Atkins (JA)

Manchester Airport Group (MAG)
Andy Brookfield (AB)
Aecom
Graham Martin (GM)
Scott Wilson (SW)

Apologies:
John Bottomley

Manchester Airport Group


Circulation as above +
Sue Stevenson (SS)
SMBC
Naz Huda (NH)

SMBC
Nasar Malik (NM)

Atkins
Robin Kimber (RK)

Atkins
Tim Baker (TB)

Scott Wilson
Joseph Roberts (JR)
Scott Wilson

Date of Notes
18 February 2010
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Minutes
Project  SEMMMS A6 to Manchester Airport Relief Road
Job No
Date of Meeting  09/02/10
Meeting No
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NOTES
DATE
ACTION

Purpose of Meeting

1.1
GM  provided  an  overview  of  the  status  of  the  SEMMMS  project

and  reiterated  that  this  meeting  was  to  determine  a  number  of
options  that  could  be  considered  for  inclusion  within  the  Options
Appraisal exercise for the Preliminary design options at the Airport.
.

1.2
Through discussion with the relevant parties (SMBC / MCC / MAG

/ SEMMMS Design team / SW) any options not feasible as a result
of identified constraints could be discounted at this stage.

Manchester Airport Masterplanning

1.3
JT  provided  an  overview  of  matters  concerned  with  that  north  of

Ringway  Road.    The  3  main  points  of  connection  need  to  be
maintained  for  access;  safety  (emergency)  routes  and  future
planning for the Airport, being:

•  Terminal 1 point of connection;
•  Terminal 2 point of connection; and
•  Ringway Road

1.4
JA  provided  an  overview  of  matters  concerned  with  that  on  the

north  side  of  the  Airport,  primarily  associated  with  future
development re Airport City.

1.5
MAG  with  MCC  has  now  secured  land  ownership  from  Jctn.  5  to

Shadowmoss Road, effectively.

1.6
MAG has consent for 1.2m sq.ft of B1 presently and is looking into

best-fit options for development parcels for the full 60 acre site.

1.7
HKR are working with MAG on the masterplanning and Aecom are

developing the traffic modelling.  Internal layouts and linkages are
being developed and investigated.

1.8
MAG  will  require  to  incorporate  improved  linkages  between  the  ALL to

north  of  site  (towards Wythenshawe)  and  the  main  Airport  hub  to  NOTE
the south.  This linkage / Gateway must be accommodated within
the  SEMMMS  layout  and  is  envisaged  to  be  at  least  10m  wide  –
preference to keep SEMMMS at grade and/or go down and under
the  link  /  Gateway  to  retain  opportunities  to  accommodate
pedestrians/cyclists and aesthetics.

1.9
JT  commented  that  the  Airport  are  not  progressing  any  related

traffic modelling with any figures, relating to passenger throughput
or traffic volumes, that are inconsistent with DfT estimates.
Date of Notes
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Minutes
Project  SEMMMS A6 to Manchester Airport Relief Road
Job No
Date of Meeting  09/02/10
Meeting No
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NOTES
DATE
ACTION

1.10
JLL are reviewing quantums relating to development opportunities

on  behalf  of  the  Airport  and  scheduled  to  report  to  Airport  by  the
end of March 2010.

1.11
TIA’s are available for the development scenarios.

1.12
Atkins (RK) to check that the SEMMMS traffic model includes the 2
Atkins
no. existing consents in relation to the Airport development.
(RK)

1.13
The  SEMMMS  traffic  modelling  requires  to  check  that  the

committed development flows include the following:

•  Davenport Green

•  Manchester Business Park

•  Burford

•  Airport (1.2m sq.ft B1)

Atkins

Request  a  schedule  from  the  SEMMMS  traffic  modelling  team  to
(RK)
confirm the committed developments included.

1.14
The profiling of the SEMMMS model to be monitored in liaison with
Atkins /
the  Airport  to  ensure  that  the  SEMMMS  model  replicates  the
MAG
current  airport  development  proposals.    GM  noted  that  meetings
had  happened  between  the  Airport/Aecom  and  Atkins/GMTU  on
this  matter  and  this  would  be  continued  through  the  modelling
development.

Metrolink

1.15
JMcM  /  MR  provided  overview  of  recent  meeting  with  GMPTE  re

Metrolink  Phase  3B.    With  current  programmes  the  Metrolink
element of the interface with SEMMMS would be delivered first.

1.16
Potential  for  joint  bid  between  SEMMMS  and  GMPTE  for  funding
SMBC
to  GMTF  –  currently  nether  SEMMMS  or  Metrolink  Phase  3B
includes costs for grade-separated solution for interface.

1.17
SEMMMS team will continue to liaise with GMPTE on development
SMBC/
of  options  for  interface  between  the  two  schemes  –  ensure  that
SW
solution adheres to SEMMMS and Airport requirements.

1.18
The location of the station needs to be established with GMPTE at

earliest  opportunity  –  key  factor  that  multi-modal  interchange  is
developed with Airport proposals.  At this stage it is noted that no
fixed alignment for tram lines – can be north r south of SEMMMS.
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Minutes
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Date of Meeting  09/02/10
Meeting No
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NOTES
DATE
ACTION

SEMMMS Scheme Options @ Airport

1.19
JMcM  requested  that  Airport  provide  information  with  regard  to
MAG
potential plot sizes so as to align / position the preliminary design
options and related infrastructure accordingly.

1.20
Discussion  and  consideration  of  merits  and  constraints  of  all

options tabled by NW.  Conclusions were as noted below:

1.21
Option 1 – discounted

1.22
The  fully  at-grade  solution  could  not  accommodate  the

development proposals of the Airport - impact on development plot
sizes and the key (non-motorised) N-S link.

1.23
Option 2 – discounted

1.24
Access to T1 and T3 not legible.  Capacity issues in accessing T1

and T3 eastbound.  Egress from east not accommodated.  The key
(non-motorised) N-S link not accommodated.

1.25
Option 3A – to be taken forward / developed

SMBC
1.26
The SEMMMS throughflow to be underneath as part of this grade-

separated solution. The main roundabout to be developed as close
to  existing  ground  level  as  practicable,  with  potential  for  existing
slip road to be retained.

1.27
Option 3B – to be taken forward / developed

SMBC
1.28
Comments as per Option 3B, with the grade-separated interchange

element to be considered in a position west of Option 3A.

1.29
Option 4 – discounted

1.30
The  layout  of  this  option  brings  everything  off  at  T2  roundabout  –

this is no acceptable and will most definitely overload the junction.

1.31
Option 5 – discounted

1.32
The layout and principles of this option could not accommodate the

development proposals of the Airport - impact on development plot
sizes and the key (non-motorised) N-S link.

1.33
Option 6 – discounted

1.34
Access to the T2 roundabout is not accommodated.  Development

site accesses are not accommodated and there is inadequate local
access.    There  is  also  an  impact  on  the  key  (non-motorised)  N-S
link.

Date of Notes
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NOTES
DATE
ACTION
1.35
Option 7 – to be taken forward / developed

SMBC
1.36
This  option  is  to  be  considered  with  consideration  of  the  scale  of

the junctions – investigate whether they can be reduced in scale to
accommodate the development proposals at the Airport.

1.37
Option 8 – to be taken forward / developed

SMBC
1.38
This  option  includes  a  signalised  T-junction  alongside  a  major

gyratory.    This  option  needs  to  be  able  to  accommodate  the  key
(non-motorised) N-S link.

Options Appraisal

1.39
SEMMMS Design team will progress the Options Appraisal for the  Mar 10
SMBC
Airport options with the Styal Road preferred option(s) incorporated
into  the  overall  assessment  (particular  to  the  COBA  and  junction
analysis/traffic modelling elements).

1.40
Input  from  MAG  will  be  required  to  assist  with  Options  Appraisal
SMBC/
with  regard  to  Land  Impact/Costs.    MR  will  liaise  with  JA  on  this
MAG
particular matter.

1.41
The Options Appraisal is scheduled to present output at the March

2010, Project Board meeting.  This is with an aim to have Design
Freeze 3 by the end of March 2010.

1.42
Comments  were  made  to  note  that  the  vertical  alignment  of
NOTE
SEMMMS at the end of the runway should be as close to existing

ground level as practicable.

Date of Next Meeting - t.b.a. as required

Date of Notes
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