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27b, Colquhoun Street, Helensburgh.
Ron Morrison made this Freedom of Information request to Argyll and Bute Council
The request was refused by Argyll and Bute Council.
From: Ron Morrison
8 June 2010
Dear Argyll & Bute Council,
I purchased the u/n information about the house at this address
from The Registers of Scotland:
Current Proprietors Argyll Community Housing Association.
Sold by: Argyll & Bute Council 05 Dec 2006
Price paid: Implementation of Agreement.
Outstanding Loans: Lloyds TSB Scotland.
This is a bungalow formerly under private ownership and not a
council built property. It is my understanding - but possibly
erroneous - that this house was a bequest to the Council?
Would you please advise me of the circumstances and date under
which it came into Council ownership, who was the previous
proprietor, any conditions attached to the transfer of ownership
and were any conditions attached to the disposal to ACHA. Is the
loan mentioned still outstanding?
Thank you,.
Yours faithfully,
Ron Morrison
From: foi
Argyll and Bute Council
8 June 2010
Dear Mr Morrison
Thank you for your information request below which has been passed to the relevant departments for attention. Either they or I will be in contact once the request has been processed.
yours Sincerely
Stephen Doogan
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From: foi
Argyll and Bute Council
8 June 2010
Dear Mr Morrison,
Having consulted with our legal services I am advised that this house
transferred to ACHA as part of our housing stock transfer which involved
approx 6000 houses. At the time of transfer all records relating to these
houses were transferred to ACHA, and consequently the council actually no
longer holds the requested information. although it is our view that it is
unlikely that any transfer would take place with a loan still outstanding
. However, I am also advised that definitive details about loans and
previous owners are available from the registers of Scotland and
consequently while your request is "information not held by this council
in terms of Section 17 of FOISA", is it also "information otherwise
accessible" in terms of Section 25, since it can be obtained from the
registers of Scotland. I hope that this information is of interest, If I
can be of further assistance please contact me
Yours Sincerely
Stephen Doogan
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request for review must be in writing or some other permanent form stating
your name and address for correspondence, and specifying the request for
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You must make your request for review not later than 40 working days after
the expiry of the 20 working day period for response to your initial
request by the Council or not later than 40 working days after the receipt
by you of the information provided, any fees notice issued or any
notification of refusal or partial refusal. Your request for review
should be addressed to;
Director of Customer Services,
Argyll & Bute Council,
Kilmory,
Lochgilphead,
Argyll,
PA31 8RT.
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From: Ron Morrison
19 June 2010
Dear Argyll & Bute Council,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Argyll & Bute
Council's handling of my FOI request '27b, Colquhoun Street,
Helensburgh.'.
Thank you for your reply. Am I to understand that this private
house, a non-council built house, was transferred to ACHA in 2006
and the Council has no record of its ownership or how it came into
possession of the Council? If that is so how does the Council know
it was authorised or legally competent to transfer it? As you know
– such information is not available via the Registers and I ask you
to look again at this request and furnish a comprehensive
explanation.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is
available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/27...
Yours faithfully,
Ron Morrison
From: foi
Argyll and Bute Council
21 June 2010
Dear Mr.Morrison
I acknowledge receipt of your review request below which has been passed to the reviewing officer for attention.
yours Sincerely
Stephen Doogan
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From: Ron Morrison
21 August 2010
Dear Mr Doogan,
I'm sorry to advise that your colleagues have not responded to my
request of 19th June (some 60 days ago) to review this matter and I
am still waiting to know the detail as to how the Council acquired
ownership of this private house. If there is no intention to
respond with this information would you please advise me. Thank
you.
Yours sincerely,
Ron Morrison
From: foi
Argyll and Bute Council
23 August 2010
Dear Mr Morrison,
I would apologise since your review which was due last week (17th August) has gone over time . I do however know that it is in hand and should be issued shortly, i.e within the next 2 days
Regards
Stephen Doogan
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From: Jackson, Iain
Argyll and Bute Council
24 August 2010
Mr Morrison
Please find my response to your request for review. I would be obliged if
you could acknowledge receipt of this email.
Regards
Iain Jackson
Governance Manager
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From: Ron Morrison
28 August 2010
Dear Jackson, Iain,
You are still not replying to my original request for information
as to the circumstances under which the Council came into
possession of 27b Colquhoun Street. If this was a legitimate asset
capable of being transferred then you must have at one time held
title to it and as that title has not been specifically transferred
to AC HA it must still be in the possesasion of the Council. If it
cannot be found in your archive then please say so or formally
reject my request and state your grounds for doing so..
Yours sincerely,
Ron Morrison
From: Jackson, Iain
Argyll and Bute Council
30 August 2010
Mr Morrison
The property came into the possession of this Council as statutory successors to the Magistrates &c of Helensburgh under local government reorganisation.
I confirmed at para 9 of the review that the Council does not hold a copy of the title deeds.
I also confirmed at para 7 that the property was on the list of properties transferred to ACHA.
As such there are no records from which to confirm any condition or burden which may have been attached to the original transfer of ownership to the Magistrates &c of Helensburgh.
I again would advise that if you are not satisfied with the way in which your review has been dealt with then you were entitled to make an application to the Scottish Information Commissioner.
Regards
Iain Jackson
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