Attendance

Modupe O Aiyedogbon Burger King

Phil Bale EQRA

Martin Bilham Go-ahead London

Michael Carnuccio Southwark Council

David Clark Southwark Carers

Tony Davies Southwark Council

Alastair Hanlon Southwark Living Streets

Patrick Horan SDA

Peter Howarth TfL (Surface Transport)

William Kirby Herne Hill Society

Cllr Paul Kyriacou Southwark Council

Ish Lennox SLAM / SE5 Forum

Mark Mihajlovic Camberwell New Road Shopping

Simon Phillips Southwark Council

Barbara Selby Southwark Council

Emma Shannon TfL (London Rail)

Rob Smith Network Rail (Thameslink Programme)

Action points

Item 1

Welcome, Introductions and apologies for absence

Cllr Paul Kyriacou, Executive Member for Environment, chaired the meeting.

Apologies

John Barcock

Eileen Con

Cllr Barry Hargrove

Sharon Hedges

Yvonne Leslie

Cllr Caroline Pidgeon

Tom White

Item 2

Minutes of the previous meeting and matters arising

The minutes of the meeting held on 10^th September 2009 were agreed without comment or amendment.

Item 3

Update from rail transport operators

Southern Rail - Yvonne Leslie supplied a written update (attached)

East London Line -

Q. Are all the stations on the East London Line Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) compliant?

A. The four new stations are DDA compliant.

Further information is to be provided regarding Rotherhithe Station.

South London Line -The long list has been reduced to a short list for further investigation and will be reported to the stakeholders' meeting on 24^th November.

Emma Shannon

Item 4

Update on Thameslink

Thameslink will provide major north south capacity increase. Rob Smith will provide pdf of presentation for distribution.

Q. Regarding Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) compliance of stations from Herne Hill to Blackfriars?

A. Northbound - no problem same platform cross, southbound DDA compliant, lifts and escalator. Also increasing frequency from some stations on the loop, no loss of existing frequency from remainder. Longer 8 car trains from Tulse Hill.

Q. Details were requested regarding the Denmark Hill to north London route which is currently getting some new (diverted) services, the London Bridge to Charing Cross route and the Bromley South through route?

A. No engineering reason why the additional services cannot continue post 2015. Further answers will be provided by Thameslink.

Q. South London Line - could this run through London Bridge to terminate at Charing Cross?

A. Could be issues around Thameslink passing South London Line. To be checked.

Q. Retention of services to Bromley south?

A. Would be up to the train operating companies as to how they use the infrastructure. DfT consultations on 2015 service patterns will start in 2013.

Rob Smith

Item 5

Update from bus operators

Go-ahead

New contracts awarded on the following routes; 21, 63, 345,363 and 521. New or refurbished vehicles to be used on these routes. There will also be increased frequency on these routes. Road works have affected reliability.

Q. What was the extent of the vehicle refurbishment?

A. Mechanical and internal layout.

Q. Are articulated buses to be withdrawn?

A. Yes, but a Transport for London decision

Item 6

Update from Transport for London

Transport for London

There have been changes in the borough advocate role in that it has been expanded to include all TfL surface transport issues

Bus Service revue undertaken by consultants KPMG. Results show generally “fit for purpose” and good value for money. Details of the 34 detailed recommendations made, report will be given at the next meeting.

“Countdown” signs, internet linked and giving real time information, are being installed at the 2500 busiest bus stops. A discussion followed as to this being the best policy for the introduction of the new service. The following questions were raised;

Q. What action can be taken if a bus fails to stop when requested to do so?

A. Make a complaint direct to the bus company with details of time, date and bus route.

Q. Can more thought be given to the location of bus stops to ensure the best possible service for customers?

A. The constraints on the location of bus stops are many and varied but every effort is made to locate a bus stop in the best place given these constraints.

Q. Example - Red Post hill southbound bus stop is a long way from Herne Hill junction and therefore very close to next stop. Could it be moved nearer to Brixton?

A. Will report back to next meeting

Concern was expressed about bus diversions without prior notice.

A. If the diversion was caused by planned highway or utility works prior notice was available. If the diversion was caused by an emergency situation there was often little opportunity to give advanced warning. Will report back on specific issue raised about New Kent Road.

An Autumn Review is to be carried out on the following bus routes;

68, 468, N68, X68, 171, 196, N171, P5, 12, N12, 37, N37, 53 and N53

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Peter Howarth

Peter Howarth

Item 7

Update from London Travelwatch

To be asked to attend next meeting

Item 8

The Mayor's Transport Strategy

The Mayors Transport Strategy is 340 pages long and only available on the internet. The Strategy covers the following; key improvements, economic development and population growth, quality of life, safety and security ,transport opportunities for all, climate change, London 2012 Olympic and Paralympics Games, Impacts of the strategy and the next steps.

Comments:

Needs to include more on speed control particularly enforcement and lower limits on the TLRN

Concern over funding for van driver and cyclist training

Policy on car ownership is in conflict with other initiatives

Item 9

Update on Local Development Framework

The timetable for the Core Strategy was given together with information regarding the Aylesbury Area Action Plan, the Canada Water Area Action Plan and the Borough Bankside and London Bridge Supplementary Planning Document.

Item 10

Any other business and closing remarks

An interesting discussion was held about the negative impact of Controlled Parking Zones (CPZ) on retail activity. This was with particular reference to Camberwell New Road.

In a discussion about speed reduction It was stressed that all speed controls must be enforced. This was particularly important near hospitals.

Feedback from SSEP rep at next meeting

1^st December is the centenary of the south London Line.

Item 11

Date and time of the next meeting

To be advised.