2010 Workforce Statistics

Dear Z. Hussain,

Re: - Request for Information *** Workforce Statistics REF CXP/8CDE9G

Thank you for your request for information, which was received by
Manchester City Council on 16/12/2010 and has been considered under the
provisions of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

You requested the following information under the Freedom of Information
Act: please find attched

Thanks

John Morgan MSc Chartered FCIPD
Business Support Manager
Human Resources
Chief Executive' Department
Manchester City Council
Internal telephone No. 800 1890
External telephone No. 0161 234 1890
Mobile No. 07879891099
Fax 0161 274 7023
email - [email address]

POSTAL ADDRESS - Manchester City Council, Town Hall, Manchester, M60 2LA

LOCATION ADDRESS - Number One First Street, Manchester, M15 4FN (for
satellite navigation systems, please use M1 5DE)

How to get to Number One First Street:
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/downloads/f...

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A response to your queries is in the process of compilation.

Thanks

John Morgan MSc Chartered FCIPD
Business Support Manager
Human Resources
Chief Executive' Department
Manchester City Council
Internal telephone No. 800 1890
External telephone No. 0161 234 1890
Mobile No. 07879891099
Fax 0161 274 7023
email - [email address]

POSTAL ADDRESS - Manchester City Council, Town Hall, Manchester, M60 2LA

LOCATION ADDRESS - Number One First Street, Manchester, M15 4FN (for
satellite navigation systems, please use M1 5DE)

How to get to Number One First Street:
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/downloads/f...

"Z. Hussain" To John L Morgan
<[FOI #55095 email]> <[email address]>
cc
07/01/2011 13:05 Subject Re: Manchester City Council

Dear John L Morgan,
Thank you for your response to my FOI Request.
I am unclear with some aspects of your reply and I would like to
request further clarification which may or may not lead to the
abrogation of your first response.

My request included the following:
-percentage breakdown of BME staff in the council
-percentile comparison with non-BME staff
-salary rate comparison.
-breakdown of BME staff by department
-salary rate comparison.

Thank you for the raw data provided.
However, there are some issues relating to the commentary preceding
it in your response and the actual significance of the data itself.

LACK OF "CHANGE" DATA
In my request I asked for information relating to "what positive
change has happened in terms of reflecting Manchester's ethnic
diversity".

You did not provide hard data as to the actual CHANGE in the
workforce: you have provided a snapshot, for which I am grateful,
but I would like to know what the trend is and the actual hard
progress being made.

THE 17.99% BME POPULATION FIGURE
Using a multitude of Manchester City Council's on-line data, there
appears to be a discrepancy with the baseline figure of 17.99% you
quoted.

I have referred to:
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/200088...
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/200088...
And to several documents, in particular:
The most recent MCC Factsheet:
A1_Man__Factsheet_May10

And other documents:
A18__EMG_06SNPP_Ward2011(07)p2
A18a__EMG_06SNPP_Ward2015(07)p2

In the 2011 estimate for the BME Population (All Non-White) the
figure stands at:

26.2 %
In the 2015 estimate for the BME Population the figure stands at:
29.7 %
Where is the 17.99 % figure taken from?
I am confused why there is a discrepancy between official Council
estimates on population and the number you are quoting.

Could I therefore also request you to re-submit your initial
response with an updated figure.

Or if you wish to maintain the initial baseline figure could you
explain why? Also, could you pinpoint who in Manchester City
Council is responsible for selecting this figure?

REPRESENTATION ACROSS ALL GRADES
In your response you state that "BME employees are representative
across all grades".

Could you clarify what you mean by this?
If I accept your baseline figure (19% BME staff), could you please
explain how for instance out of 115 members of staff at the Highest
Grade in the Chief Executives Department that 2 BME members of
staff are representative of Manchester's BME population?

Are you essentially implying that as long as there is even one
member of the BME community then they represent the whole?

If you could clarify these issues I have raised I would be most
grateful.

Thank you for your cooperation and assistance.
Yours sincerely,
Z. Hussain

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Z. Hussain

Please find attached the latest Report that has been considered by the
Personnel Committee on 19 January 2011.

Manchester City Council

Report to: Personnel Committee *** 19 January 2011
Report of: Assistant Chief Executive (People)
Subject: Race Equality in Manchester *** Workforce Monitoring and Action
Planning Report 2009/10

and link

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/meetings/me...

Thanks

John Morgan MSc Chartered FCIPD
Business Support Manager
Human Resources
Chief Executive' Department
Manchester City Council
Internal telephone No. 800 1890
External telephone No. 0161 234 1890
Mobile No. 07879891099
Fax 0161 274 7023
email - [email address]

POSTAL ADDRESS - Manchester City Council, Town Hall, Manchester, M60 2LA

LOCATION ADDRESS - Number One First Street, Manchester, M15 4FN (for
satellite navigation systems, please use M1 5DE)

How to get to Number One First Street:
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/downloads/f...

"Z. Hussain" To John L Morgan
<[FOI #55095 email]> <[email address]>
cc
08/02/2011 15:47 Subject Re: Manchester City Council

Dear John L Morgan,
I am still awaiting a response.
Thank you,
Yours sincerely,
Z. Hussain

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Sonia - please can you reply directly to Z Hussain

Thanks

John Morgan MSc Chartered FCIPD
Business Support Manager
Human Resources
Chief Executive' Department
Manchester City Council
Internal telephone No. 800 1890
External telephone No. 0161 234 1890
Mobile No. 07879891099
Fax 0161 274 7023
email - [email address]

POSTAL ADDRESS - Manchester City Council, Town Hall, Manchester, M60 2LA

LOCATION ADDRESS - Number One First Street, Manchester, M15 4FN (for
satellite navigation systems, please use M1 5DE)

How to get to Number One First Street:
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/downloads/f...

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Dear Z Hussain

Thank you for your recent enquiry.

Reference in the report to all posts being filled by open competition
stands. In response to your second query, the Council does not make that
comparison. If a BME member of staff is on the same grade as a white
counterpart, there would be no comparison to make as it is the same grade.
The City Council is unable to control the diversity of people who apply
for jobs and who are subsequently successful in being appointed to
positions. We are still striving to improve the percentage of BME senior
managers within the workforce and this is one of the City Council's
priorities, that will include focusing on internal career development
opportunities for all employees.

Regards

Sonia Stewart
Interim HR/OD Strategy Lead
HR/OD Service
Tel: (External) 0161 234 3974
Tel: (Internal) 800 3974
email: [email address]
website: www.manchester.gov.uk
POSTAL ADDRESS: Manchester City Council, PO Box 532, Manchester, M60 2LA
LOCATION ADDRESS: Number One First Street, Manchester, M15 4FN (for
satellite navigation systems please use M1 5DE)

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Dear Z Hussain

Manchester City Council takes the diversity of its workforce very
seriously and progress is reported through the appropriate Council's
democratic processes. The City Council has affirmed its approach over a
number of years and believes it follows a best practice approach to
monitoring and setting targets.

The Race Equality report already forwarded to you contains sufficient
information for the Council to pursue its aim of a diverse and balanced
workforce.

Regards

Sonia Stewart
Interim HR/OD Strategy Lead
HR/OD Service
Tel: (External) 0161 234 3974
Tel: (Internal) 800 3974
email: [email address]
website: www.manchester.gov.uk
POSTAL ADDRESS: Manchester City Council, PO Box 532, Manchester, M60 2LA
LOCATION ADDRESS: Number One First Street, Manchester, M15 4FN (for
satellite navigation systems please use M1 5DE)

"Z. Hussain" To Sonia Stewart
<[FOI #55095 email]> <[email address]>
cc
22/02/2011 12:47 Subject Re: Fw: Manchester City
Council

Dear Sonia Stewart,

I am concerned with your reply.

With regards to open competition I can look into how specific posts
were filled in the past. I will leave that to separate FOI
requests.

With regards to your statement:

"If a BME member of staff is on the same grade as a white
counterpart, there would be no comparison to make as it is the same
grade."

I would disagree strongly with this interpretation.

Simply because someone is on the same Grade does not guarantee
equal pay. This is how the EHRC and other institutions have
identified the 'pay gap' between men and women. I would like to
determine if there is 'pay gap' between BME members of staff and
white counterparts within equivalent Grade bands.

I do not understand how MCC is treating this issue as a priority if
it does not compare how ethnic minority staff are paid. This
clearly suggests it is NOT a priority.

With such a low representation of BME staff at the highest level in
Manchester City Council, I believe that you are failing to
represent the people of Manchester. I agree that you are 'unable to
control the diversity of people who apply for jobs', but you
certainly control who gets employed, who gets fired, who is
promoted and how much they get paid.

It is clear that there is a glass ceiling which obstructs progress
to the leadership level in Manchester City Council, which is why it
is a perfect example of the so-called 'Guinness Effect' despite the
incredible diversity of the city of Manchester.

So please provide a salary rate comparison.

Yours Sincerely,

Z. Hussain

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Dear Z Hussain

With regard to your request for a salary rate comparison, could you please
clarify the following:

* Definition of salary
* Who are the comparators
* Period in contemplation eg 1 month, 12 months
* Whether full time or part time for comparative purposes

Regards

Sonia Stewart
Interim HR/OD Strategy Lead
HR/OD Service
Tel: (External) 0161 234 3974
Tel: (Internal) 800 3974
email: [email address]
website: www.manchester.gov.uk
POSTAL ADDRESS: Manchester City Council, PO Box 532, Manchester, M60 2LA
LOCATION ADDRESS: Number One First Street, Manchester, M15 4FN (for
satellite navigation systems please use M1 5DE)

"Z. Hussain" To Sonia Stewart
<[FOI #55095 email]> <[email address]>
cc
05/04/2011 12:56 Subject Re: Fw: Manchester City
Council

Dear Sonia Stewart,

I disagreed with your 25th of March 2011 response that:

"The Race Equality report already forwarded to you contains
sufficient information for the Council to pursue its aim of a
diverse and balanced workforce.

The Race Equality report already forwarded to you contains
sufficient information for the Council to pursue its aim of a
diverse and balanced workforce."

I do apologise, but the Race Equality Report absolutely did not
contain the salary rate comparison amongst other things. You
suggest that you are treating this issue as a priority, but your
reply indicated the reverse.

With regards to your statement:

"If a BME member of staff is on the same grade as a white
counterpart, there would be no comparison to make as it is the same
grade."

I would disagree strongly with this interpretation.

Simply because someone is on the same Grade does not guarantee
equal pay. This is how the EHRC and other institutions have
identified the 'pay gap' between men and women. I would like to
determine if there is 'pay gap' between BME members of staff and
white counterparts within equivalent Grade bands.

I do not understand how MCC is treating this issue as a priority if
it does not compare how ethnic minority staff are paid. This
clearly suggests it is NOT a priority.

With such a low representation of BME staff at the highest level in
Manchester City Council, I believe that you are failing to
represent the people of Manchester. I agree that you are 'unable to
control the diversity of people who apply for jobs', but you
certainly control who gets employed, who gets fired, who is
promoted and how much they get paid.

It is clear that there is a glass ceiling which obstructs progress
to the leadership level in Manchester City Council, which is why it
is a perfect example of the so-called 'Guinness Effect' despite the
incredible diversity of the city of Manchester.

So please provide a salary rate comparison.

Yours sincerely,

Z. Hussain

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Dear Mr Hussain

Re: Request for Information - Internal Review - CXP/8CDE9G/IR

Thank you for your email dated regarding your request for an internal
review.

Your request for an internal review will be dealt with in accordance with
the Council’s Access to Information Complaint Procedure. The procedure is
available on the Council’s web site at:

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/downloads/d...

We will carry out the internal review and contact you again as soon as
possible.

Yours sincerely

Information Compliance Unit
Democratic Services
PO Box 532
Town Hall
Albert Square
Manchester
M60 2LA

Email: [Manchester City Council request email]
Website: www.manchester.gov.uk

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Dear Mr Hussain

Please find the attached in response to your request for an internal
review.

(See attached file: Workforce statistics.doc)

yours sincerely

Information Compliance Unit
Democratic Services
PO Box 532
Town Hall
Albert Square
Manchester
M60 2LA

Email: [Manchester City Council request email]
Website: www.manchester.gov.uk

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