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186b West Green Road
K.Y made this Freedom of Information request to Haringey Borough Council
The request was refused by Haringey Borough Council.
From: K.Y
13 October 2011
Dear Haringey Borough Council,
Please can you tell me the following:
1. How many families have lived at the above property.
2. How many were EVICTED?
3. How many families
a) started to live there WITH CHIILDREN in their care....
and
b) How many families left the tenancy WITHOUT their children in
their care?
c) How many of those children were in Local Authority Care?
4. The Ethnicities of those who have been housed at the address
(above).
5) How many of the families / people housed at the above property
were claiming Housing Benefits?
Thank you.
Yours faithfully,
Kay Young
B.A & B.Sc (Hons) OPEN
From: FOI
Haringey Borough Council
14 October 2011
Dear Ms Young,
Freedom of Information Request, our reference: LBH/0059511
Thank you for your request for information dated13 October 2011, in which
you asked for personal information about residents at 186b West Green
Road.
Requests asking for personal data are exempt from the Freedom of
Information Act under Section 40(2) of that Act if the disclosure of the
information would breach any of the Data Protection principles. The first
Data Protection principle requires personal data to be processed fairly
and lawfully. It would not be a legitimate use of their personal data for
us to process it in order to disclose it to you. The subject of this
information would not expect us to disclose their personal information to
a third party in this way. It would therefore be unfair and unlawful for
us to provide their information to you. This letter is a refusal notice as
required by the Freedom of Information Act.
If you have any further queries, or are unhappy with how we have dealt
with your request and wish to make a complaint, please contact the
Feedback and Information Team as below. (Please note you should do this
within two months of receiving this response.) Â
Feedback and Information Team
River Park House
225 High Road
N22 8HQ
Telephone: 020 8489 2550
Email: [email address]
You may also complain to the Information Commissioner’s office, who may be
able to help you. However they would normally expect the local authority
to have undertaken a complaint investigation or Internal Review of the
request before they will accept the referral. You can contact the
Commissioner at:
Postal address: Information Commissioner
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone help line: 0845 6306060, or 01625 545745
Fax: 01625 545510
Website: www.ico.gov.uk
Yours sincerely
Ms Sirkku Pietikäinen | Feedback Review Officer | Haringey Council |
Feedback & Information Governance Team | 020 8489 2552
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From: K.Y
15 October 2011
Dear FOI,
This IS NOT requesting PERSONAL DATA. Simply asking HOW MANY
families moved into that Maisonette WITH CHILDREN and how many have
been evicted / left WITHOUT their children STILL in their care.
Please reply. I shall be sending a ciopy of this to Rt. Hon. Grant
Shapps MP.
Yours sincerely,
Kay Young
B.A & B.Sc (Hons) OPEN
From: FOI
Haringey Borough Council
17 October 2011
Dear Ms Young ,
Thank you for your e-mail. Your comments have been noted.
If you have any further queries, or are unhappy with how we have dealt
with your request and wish to make a complaint, please contact the
Feedback and Information Team as below. (Please note you should do this
within two months of receiving this response.) Â
Feedback and Information Team
River Park House
225 High Road
N22 8HQ
Telephone: 020 8489 2550
Email: [email address]
You may also complain to the Information Commissioner’s office, who may be
able to help you. However they would normally expect the local authority
to have undertaken a complaint investigation or Internal Review of the
request before they will accept the referral. Â You can contact the
Commissioner at:
Postal address: Information Commissioner
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone help line: 0845 6306060, or 01625 545745
Fax: 01625 545510
Website: www.ico.gov.uk
Regards,
Ms Sirkku Pietikäinen | Feedback Review Officer | Haringey Council |
Feedback & Information Governance Team | 020 8489 2552
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From: K.Y
26 October 2011
Dear Haringey Borough Council,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Haringey Borough
Council's handling of my FOI request '186b West Green Road'.
Requesting information on numbers of residents at one address is
NOT a Data Protection Issue - unless, of course there have been so
many who have lived at the address WITH CHILDREN on their initial
rental status and then EVICTED / leaving the property as a COUPLE /
Single person without children....
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is
available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/18...
Yours faithfully,
Kay Young
B.A & B.Sc (Hons) OPEN
From: Selby Jane
Haringey Borough Council
31 October 2011
Dear Ms Young
Internal Review regarding Freedom of Information request reference
LBH/0059511
Thank you for your email received on 26 October 2011.
Your request for an Internal Review/complaint has been logged with the
reference number LBH/0108411. Please quote this reference number on any
further correspondence.
I will now investigate your complaint and I aim to let you know the
outcome of our investigation by 23 November 2011. If I need longer, I
will write to let you know the reason and when you can expect a full
reply.
Yours sincerely
Jane Selby | Feedback Review Officer | Haringey Council | Feedback &
Information Governance Team | 020 8489 1971
P Please consider the environment before printing.
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From: K.Y
4 November 2011
Dear Selby Jane,
I would be most grateful if you could please re-send yor reply in a
PDF Format - which I can then 'download'.
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,
Kay Young
B.A & B.Sc (Hons) OPEN
From: Selby Jane
Haringey Borough Council
11 November 2011
Dear Ms Kay
Thank you for your email.
Please find attached my reply re-sent in a PDF Format.
Regards
Jane Selby | Feedback Review Officer | Haringey Council | Feedback & Information Governance Team | 020 8489 1971
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From: Selby Jane
Haringey Borough Council
23 November 2011
Dear Ms Young
Internal Review regarding Freedom of Information (FOI) request reference
LBH/0059511
Thank you for giving us an opportunity to review the response we have sent
to your FOI request.
Your request was as follows.
186b West Green Road:
1. How many families have lived at the above property?
2. How many were EVICTED?
3. How many families
a) started to live there WITH CHIILDREN in their care....
and
b) How many families left the tenancy WITHOUT their children in their
care?
c) How many of those children were in Local Authority Care?
4. The Ethnicities of those who have been housed at the address
5) How many of the families / people housed at the above property were
claiming Housing Benefits?
I have reviewed your request and our previous response to it. We refused
your request on the following grounds:
Requests asking for personal data are exempt from the Freedom of
Information Act under Section 40(2) of that Act if the disclosure of the
information would breach any of the Data Protection principles. The first
Data Protection principle requires personal data to be processed fairly
and lawfully. It would not be a legitimate use of their personal data for
us to process it in order to disclose it to you. The subjects of this
information would not expect us to disclose their personal information to
a third party in this way. It would therefore be unfair and unlawful for
us to provide their information to you.
Having reconsidered our response, I maintain our refusal to supply you
with the information.
Although you have not asked for information relating to any particular
individual or certain period, if we were to release the information
requested to you, with the aid of the historical electoral register you
may be able to identify the residents concerned and know something of
their personal circumstances, information which would be their personal
information which they would not expect to be released to a third party.
This would therefore clearly be a breach of the Data Protection
principles.
In addition, we do not necessarily record how many families have lived at
a certain property. We would have the records of who the tenancy was
assigned to (presuming it is a council tenancy) but we would not
necessarily know if the tenant was living with a family or the composition
of the household. Similarly we would not necessarily know the ethnicities
of all tenants. I also consider that Section 14 (1) of the Freedom of
Information Act is applicable. This allows an authority to not respond to
a request for information if it is considered vexatious. So even if we
did not consider the information to be exempt, we would not provide it to
you as we consider your request also to be vexatious. In order to make
this decision I have referred to guidance issued from the Information
Commissioner, which is that a request can be considered as vexatious after
considering the following questions, taking into account the context and
history of the request:
· Can the request fairly be seen as
obsessive?
· Is the request harassing the
authority or causing distress to staff?
· Would complying with the request
impose a significant burden
· Is the request designed to cause
disruption and annoyance
· Does the request lack any serious
purpose or value
I note that this address is/was the address of the family about whom you
have been in correspondence with us on other requests and I therefore
consider it most likely that this question is being asked as part of your
ongoing campaign and can be seen as harassing the council. We would also
question whether the information requested has any serious purpose or
value. The information you have requested would take various officers in
different services time to collate and I consider this to be unreasonable
and placing undue pressure on already busy services.
If you remain unhappy with how we have dealt with your request you may
also complain to the Information Commissioner’s office, who may be able to
help you. You can contact the Commissioner at:
Postal address: Information Commissioner
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone help line: 0845 6306060 or 01625 545745
Fax: 01625 545510
Website: www.ico.gov.uk
Yours sincerely
J Selby | Feedback & Information Governance Team | 020 848 2550
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