10 year Long Residence.

The Screwdriver made this Freedom of Information request to UK Border Agency

The request was partially successful.

From: The Screwdriver

13 January 2011

Dear UK Border Agency,

This queries relates to a straight forward application for ILR
(Indefinite Leave to Remain) made to UKBA based on 10 years of
legal stay.

Please reply in point form to these queries (dont just reply back
with automated junk, its not funny)

1)Once the postal application is submitted to UK Border Agency
SET (O)
Indefinite Leave to Remain
PO Box 591
Durham
DH1 9FS
who (which office?) processes the payments made?

2)On receipt of application when (answer in number of days) do you
take the payment? on the same day? or a few days later (if so how
many days later)?

3)Is the application processed at the same address, UK Border
Agency
SET (O)
Indefinite Leave to Remain
PO Box 591
Durham
DH1 9FS
assume no reffering, making further enquiries and such shanigans
are necessary). If the address where the processing takes place is
different to the one it is sent to, state exactly which one.

4) Once the payment has been taken, is the case sent to Regional
Case work units immediately for final decision or do the case
workes sit on it endlessly and fart on it in their offices?

Yours Annoyingly,

The Screwdriver.

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Note: The following is already noted:

The service standards (for settlement applications)
We will:

decide 95% of postal applications within six months; and
decide 90% of applications made in person at a public enquiry office within 24 hours.

Please reply constructively, without a fart

Yours actively,

The Screwdriver

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From: Freedom Of Information Team ( IND )
UK Border Agency

13 January 2011

Dear Sir,

If you would like us to treat your email below as an enquiry under the
Freedom of Information Act, please would you resubmit your request
without the offensive comments and also provide us with your name for
the reply.

You may wish to know that if you scroll to the end of the automated
reply you have previously received, it explains how to obtain a more
specific reply to your enquiry.

FOI Team
UK Border Agency

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From: The Screwdriver

14 January 2011

Dear Freedom Of Information Team ( IND ),

Thanks for your reponse. I'm not sure which part is offending you.
Anyway, it shouldnt be too difficult to ignore the bit that you
find itching.

I have managed to find answeres to the first two questions already.
So perhaps you can answer the last two now, viz:

3) Is the application processed at the same address to one where it
is sent? : UK Border,Agency SET (O),Indefinite Leave to Remain,PO
Box 591.Durham,DH1 9FS.
(Assume no reffering, making further enquiries and such shananigans
are necessary). If the address where the processing takes place is
different to the one it is sent to, state exactly which one.

4) Once the payment has been taken, is the case sent to any
Regional Case work units immediately for final decision or do the
case workes sit on it endlessly and fart on it in their offices?

Yours sincerely,

The Screwdriver

(nickname)

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From: The Screwdriver

14 January 2011

The Screwdriver

14 January 2011
Dear Freedom Of Information Team ( IND ),

Thanks for your reponse. I'm not sure which part is offending you.
Anyway, it shouldnt be too difficult to ignore the bit that you
find itching.

I have managed to find answeres to the first two questions already.
So perhaps you can answer the last two now, viz:

3) Is the application processed at the same address to one where it
is sent? : UK Border,Agency SET (O),Indefinite Leave to Remain,PO
Box 591.Durham,DH1 9FS.
(Assume no reffering, making further enquiries and such shananigans
are necessary). If the address where the processing takes place is
different to the one it is sent to, state exactly which one.

4) Once the payment has been taken, is the case sent to any
Regional Case work units immediately for final decision or do the
case workes sit on it endlessly and fart on it in their offices?

Yours sincerely,

The Screwdriver

(nickname)

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From: Freedom Of Information Team ( IND )
UK Border Agency

17 January 2011

Dear Requestor,
Further to your reply below, we are taking your request to be:

"This queries relates to a straight forward application for ILR
(Indefinite Leave to Remain) made to UKBA based on 10 years of
legal stay.

Is the application processed at the same address to one where it
is sent? : UK Border,Agency SET (O),Indefinite Leave to Remain,PO
Box 591.Durham,DH1 9FS.

Once the payment has been taken, is the case sent to any
Regional Case work units immediately for final decision or do the
case workes sit on it endlessly"

We will respond as soon as we can.

FOI Team
UK Border Agency

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From: The Screwdriver

18 January 2011

Dear Freedom Of Information Team ( IND ),

Well take it the way you want it.

I have further learnt (seems i am answering them faster than you,so
please keep up), that once the payment is taken it is indeed sent
to regional case work units. So are these regional case workers the
final decion makers (assume no further queries are necessary)?

Also, how do you ensure/guarantee that these case workers dont
abuse authority since ultimately they are privy to peoples private
information? Please elaborate what measures are in place to
safeguard an applicants confidentiality?

A bad example of people abusing authority is, Mr Ali Dizaei. I know
he was not a UKBA case worker and was a police officer,
nevertheless, what measures are in place to ensure the IO's and
caseworkers dont abuse the information they are privy to. Please
post in detail, what measures exist to safe guard an applicants
confidentiality from abuse by IOs who think they can do as they
please?

In the event that a particular case worker, X, breaches an
individual applicants confidentiality, would UKBA be happy to
release this specific person's (X's) detail, so that they can be
stripped bare in front of a court of law and justice be done? If
not, why would UKBA guard someone who abuses an applicant's
confidentiality?

I would be quite happy to deal with Mr X for any abuse of power in
a court of law. Failing which in person if suited.

As always,

most sincerely,

The Screwdriver

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Edited to add: Thanks for your reponse.

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From: Simpson Beverley
UK Border Agency

18 January 2011

Dear Requestor,
Thank you for your e mail. We will reply as soon as we can.

FOI Team
UK border Agency

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From: Freedom Of Information Team ( IND )
UK Border Agency

25 January 2011

The Screwdriver,

I write further to your e-mail of 4:09pm on 25th January 2011 which asked
that we focus on the question listed in that e-mail and ignore a previous
request made. I just wish to confirm that the earlier request you refer to
is the one we received in an e-mail from yourself on 13 January 2011. The
request was as follows;

"This queries relates to a straight forward application for ILR
(Indefinite Leave to Remain) made to UKBA based on 10 years of
legal stay.

Is the application processed at the same address to one where it
is sent? : UK Border,Agency SET (O),Indefinite Leave to Remain,PO
Box 591.Durham,DH1 9FS.

Once the payment has been taken, is the case sent to any
Regional Case work units immediately for final decision or do the
case workes sit on it endlessly"

Apologies for the confusion but we also recieved an e-mail from you on 18
January 2011 which asked further questions on the same subject.

Please can you confirm that you wish us to take the e-mail from 25 January
2011 to replace the e-mail dated 13 January 2011. If this is the case we
propose to attach the questions asked in your e-mail of 18 January to the
latest e-mail and answer it with one response.

We will aim to respond to your request as soon as we have confirmation of
the points above however, it is neccesary for us to point out that, should
you be unhappy with our response and require an appeal, requests from
known pseudonyms cannot be the subject of a valid complaint under Section
50 of the FOIA. If you wish to provide a full name then please do so in
your response to this e-mail.

Kind regards,

Ben Smith
Freedom of Information Act Policy Team
Senior Policy Advisor
UK Border Agency
Lunar House - 11th Floor - Short Corridor
40 Wellesley Road, Croydon
CR9 2BY

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From: The Screwdriver

25 January 2011

Dear Ben smith (Freedom Of Information Team ( IND ),)

First of all, thanks for your quick response. My apologies too for
causing confusion by making more than one requests.

Well, you can merge the two requests if it does not slow the
process.

I have further learnt that this SET(O) 10 year Long Residency ILR
applications are processed by the Liver office. I'm not sure this
is exclusively the case. Anyway, just provide as much details as
you can (and dont tell me about the £600 cost limit on how much you
can do. I know that).

My point (overall) is that it would be most helpful to all those
who have to wait for way too long for this to be processed. If
regular updates are published by UKBA casework units (on UKBA
website in news or something) on how they are getting on, then
people have some idea of the progress being made. For example, each
week (or perhaps month) an update can be posted stating which
applications are currently being processed. For example,
'Applications received from dd-mm-2010 for Long Residence 10 years
are now being processed.'

This would make life easier for the applicant as well as UKBA. The
applicant would have some idea whats happening, while UKBA would
have less calls to handle on the subject (at least in theory).

Kind Regards

The Screwdriver

Yours sincerely,

The Screwdriver

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From: The Screwdriver

25 January 2011

Dear UK Border Agency,

Could you please also answer, as of today, 25.01.11 how many ILR
(10 year residence) applications are pending?

Yours faithfully,

The Screwdriver

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From: Freedom Of Information Team ( IND )
UK Border Agency

14 February 2011


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Dear Requester,

Attached is the response to your below request.

Yours sincerely,

The Freedom of information act policy team

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From: The Screwdriver

15 February 2011

Dear Freedom Of Information Team ( IND ),

Firstly, thank you for your reponse.

Now, there is some confusion/contradiction about your answer to a
similar query about where these applications are processed. in your
reponse to boonbin on 23 April 2010 (CASE ID - 011832853
Application SET (O) over six months waiting time) you've stated the
following to his query:

Ref: 14611/1149
Question 5. What is the basis of allocating '10 year continuous
legal stay' ILR applications to various centres (e.g. Croydon,
Liverpool, Sheffield etc) in UK?

This is based on caseworking resource. A given percentage of all
postal applications are allocated to Croydon and Sheffield. These
are mixed case types and (with few exceptions) the split is not
based on case type. 10 year long residence is one such case type
which would fall into this category.

and yet in response to my query your answer only states liverpool:

3)Once payment is processed, how do you decide which site to assign
these cases? Provide procedural details.

All applications for ILR 10 year residence are forwarded to
Liverpool Settlement Casework to consider.

So is this a recent change (that only Liverpool deals with these
cases)?

Also note, this does NOT involve an asylum application (and its
also not the illegal 14 year residence category) nor was there EVER
any previous application for asylum in the past 10 years by the
applicant. The applicant in this case was issued student visas for
10 years, without any problems. So my point is, are these
applications clubbed with those of asylum seekers? (i understand
Liverpool casework units mainly handle asylum applications,
correct?)

Please clarify, and then the query can be closed.

Yours sincerely,

The Screwdriver
(The name is humerous)

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Summary:

In total, as of the end of January 2011 – 1320 ILR 10 year long residency applications remain outstanding.-UKBA's reponse.

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From: Freedom Of Information Team ( IND )
UK Border Agency

15 February 2011

Dear Screwdriver

Re: 10 year Long Residence.(57664)

Thank you for your recent e-mail concerning the above matter. We are
currently dealing with your enquiry and will respond shortly.

Kind Regards

UKBA
FOI Team

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From: The Screwdriver

16 February 2011

Dear Freedom Of Information Team ( IND ),

Thank you for your response. I wonder whether you can categorise
them as internal external as well.Can you publish the details about
the checks that are done and necessary. You say:
Please assume (genuine relatively straightforward application)
Numerous checks are made on applications for ILR 10 year long
residence.
1)Documents submitted to prove lawful residence are checked for
accuracy, to ensure they are genuine.

The Screwdriver: Would this be done internally? I think yes for
these reasons: UKBA should easily be able to check to ensure the
passports submitted is genuine by comparing it to the applicants
previous records. Thats a check i believe a child can make in
seconds without any fault. So this shouldnt take much time.
(classed as UKBA internal check, correct?)

2)Previous leave on UK Border Agency internal systems are also
checked.

The Screwdriver: i would think this should be pretty easy too. All
the caseworker would need to do, is check the database. Therefore,
this shouldnt take much time. i'll be lenient and give it 10
minutes (exceptions: systems crashing, come on this got to be
robust for a nationaly important body, and therefore infrequent
crashes assumed.) classed as ukba internal check.

3)A number of checks are also made before applications can be
decided,including some with authorities outside of the UK Border
Agency, and these can take some time to complete. As we have no
control over the length of time taken to deal with these external
enquiries, we cannot give definite indications as to when cases
will be decided.

The Screwdriver: can you list the remaining checks needed to be
done and the concerned authority?

Thanks

Yours sincerely,

The Screwdriver

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From: The Screwdriver

16 February 2011

Dear UK Border Agency,

Please ignore my post of 15th Febuary 2011. I seem to
have an answer to this from here (see page 12 of 25):
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco...

"With the responsibility for all permanent migration
settlement casework moving to Liverpool this year
the agency has set up a dedicated resource."

Now, if the above assumption is correct, please move on and answer
the questions of the post dated 16 Febuary, about what necessary
additional checks are done outside UKBA.

Thanks
Yours faithfully,

The Screwdriver
(the name is still funny!)

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One more question arises: Can the UKBA release JUST (only) the names of the 112 caseworkers working at Liverpool Settlement Unit?

If not why not? if yes please do.

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From: The Screwdriver

17 February 2011

Dear UK Border Agency,

Since posting the above post, i have managed to find what other
necessary checks are done. So i have answered my own questions
faster than UKBA can respond!!! So in the public interest, you may
work on other requests.

I wonder if you can disclose the names of the said 112 people
working in UKBA. I know there is Data Protection Act to be adhered
to, but its strange that the govenment has published the names of
people working (mostly seniors) for UKBA and yet others are not
published. confusing anomally? If the seniors can have their names
published, why not do the same for the juniors:caseworker, IO , EO,
and such other X O's...?

Yours faithfully,

The Screwdriver

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From: Freedom Of Information Team ( IND )
UK Border Agency

17 February 2011

Screwdriver

Thank you for your e-mails requiring further information. We are
dealing with the matter and will respond shortly.

Regards

UKBA FOI Team

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You can consider this query 95% answered. Perhaps UKBA can spend their time on better things. As always, one and only....

The Screwdriver.
(pleasure is always mine). Thank you.

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From: Freedom Of Information Team ( IND )
UK Border Agency

8 March 2011


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Dear Sir,

The reply to your FOI request is attached.

Kind regards

FOI Team

UK Border Agency

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From: The Screwdriver

8 March 2011

Dear Freedom Of Information Team ( IND ),

Thanks for taking the trouble to respond. You havent released the
name of the case workers but i dont think its much necessary for me
now...so you can close this request.

About my name, its just a cheeky screen name (should add to some
humour ;), i hope you all liked it. Anyway, seriously, i would
submit my real name but i dont consider it necessary as its not so
important for me to know who these caseworkers are, but perhaps the
general public could have benefited if you disclosed their names.
E.g. the public would know who in particular is dealing with their
cases at UKBA.

I consider this request closed, and you at UKBA can too. I wont be
communicating on this anymore. Thanks for your reposne.

Yours sincerely,

The Screwdriver

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